Cain will not get a single TD tomorrow night. Not shockingly.

JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
edited December 2012 in UFC
He wont take JDS down, his best chance is to use leg kicks and go for the KO.



its gonna be a risky strategy, but its his only chance. He will not take JDS down.

























Ever.
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  • zaksamezaksame Posts: 4,342Free
    edited December 2012
    That's it?? Just a he won't ?
    Sounds more like a guess than sound reasoning no ?
    He might not because JDS almost never commits,unless you practically fade against the cage in self defense and even then he might hesitate.
    JDS will stay out of Cain's reach so Cain is most certainly going to have to telegraph his TD,if he attempts any.
    I don't liek the coward way JDS fights,if he is suppose to be a legit champion,then engage,don't stay out of the others guys reach forcing the OTHER fighter to make the fight.

    I think Cain should instead stay back and let jDS come to him,then use feints just to keep JDS honest.I think even if and when JDS would come to him,he would actually do it defensively and not really engage.As long as Cain has done his homework and realizes how JDS fights,he should do ok,he needs to not waste energy and ONLY go for a TD when JDS is moving to him.
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  • dumbkidsthesedaysdumbkidsthesedays Posts: 1,088Free
    edited December 2012
    Yeah I sort of agree with you.

    he needs to try and employ an effective but less agressive striking technique which will be hard to do against JDS but he is a smart guy so you never know.

    Even if Cain gets him down I really don't see him holding him down for long.

    Hopefully last at last 2 and a half rounds and a 5 round fight between these guys would probably be awesome.
  • Bezerker101Bezerker101 Posts: 1,604Free
    edited December 2012
    zaksame;3008566 said:

    I think Cain should instead stay back and let jDS come to him
    I don't see this ^ happening, Junior is a very patient striker -
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  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,665Free
    edited December 2012
    I hope he gets a takedown so I can bump this
    Bezerker101;3008577 said:
    I don't see this ^ happening, Junior is a very patient striker -
    and Cain isn't.
  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
    edited December 2012
    Yesterdays_Hero;3008617 said:
    I hope he gets a takedown so I can bump this



    and Cain isn't.
    wont happen!
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  • cruz2990cruz2990 MexicoPosts: 8,119Free
    edited December 2012
    I think your wrong Cain will take him down but that's not all he is going to do he is gunna mix up......
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  • AnsemAnsem Posts: 3,837Free
    edited December 2012
    zaksame;3008566 said:
    That's it?? Just a he won't ?
    Sounds more like a guess than sound reasoning no ?
    He might not because JDS almost never commits,unless you practically fade against the cage in self defense and even then he might hesitate.
    JDS will stay out of Cain's reach so Cain is most certainly going to have to telegraph his TD,if he attempts any.
    I don't liek the coward way JDS fights,if he is suppose to be a legit champion,then engage,don't stay out of the others guys reach forcing the OTHER fighter to make the fight.

    I think Cain should instead stay back and let jDS come to him,then use feints just to keep JDS honest.I think even if and when JDS would come to him,he would actually do it defensively and not really engage.As long as Cain has done his homework and realizes how JDS fights,he should do ok,he needs to not waste energy and ONLY go for a TD when JDS is moving to him.
    mexican spotted ^

    JDS will win.
    cruz2990;3008620 said:
    I think your wrong Cain will take him down but that's not all he is going to do he is gunna mix up......
    :O thats just wrong bro, u shud be banned.

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  • TheMmaKnowItAllTheMmaKnowItAll Posts: 523Registered Users
    edited December 2012
    Cain just needs to go for the single legs like he did to brock, he'll get junior down, just don't know if he'll keep him there for long!
    Both gonzaga and carwin got jds down for brief seconds, so I think cain can do it, but what's the point if its so much effort to get him down once and just pops right back up! Good thing cain is a cardio machine, he's gonna need every little bit of it for this fight.
  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 21,326Free
    edited December 2012
    Junglebird;3008559 said:
    He wont take JDS down, his best chance is to use leg kicks and go for the KO.



    its gonna be a risky strategy, but its his only chance. He will not take JDS down.

    Ever.

    Yeah those leg kicks soo worked for him last time. KO JDS yeah like that's gonna happen. :rolleyes:

    Cain is going to have to time his takedowns with heavy hands and stay away from long combinations and volume. The first 2 min of the first round is all important. If he can get his timing down and pick his shots/shoots and get JDS to come to him he can give JDS a hard time. If he tries to press the takedowns with volume striking and not try to get a fix on JDS timing KTFO he will be again.
  • LenzoLenzo Posts: 255Registered Users
    edited December 2012
    Cain's only chance is to take Dos Santos to the ground and pound him out. If he cannot keep Dos Santos on the mat then he will not win. Dos Santos will win imo. Cain does not even have a "punchers chance" in this one.
  • fourthnorsemanfourthnorseman Posts: 4,251Free
    edited December 2012
    Cains strategy should be, and I think will be, too go forward terminator style with constant, controlled aggresion. Try and get JDS in the clinch up against the cage and use judo/greco style takedowns mixed with close range strikes. No ****ing around.

    If he sticks to this gameplan and just turns it on until one guy fades I can see him winning this fight. If he stays on the outside and lets JDS fight in his range.... fresh, he gets KTFOed again.

    I'm excited to see this unfold!:cool:
  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
    edited December 2012
    you guys arnt listening.


    Cain wont get a TD.

    He will need to use Leg kicks and striking.

    Its a dangerous game, but he wont be out grappling JDS at all.
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  • AmerimanAmeriman Posts: 2,069Free
    edited December 2012
    I think that Cain's gonna put on a clinic tomorrow night.
    Boston threw me a god damn beating. DOOMGOAT REIGNS SUPREME
  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 21,326Free
    edited December 2012
    Junglebird;3008766 said:
    you guys arnt listening.


    Cain wont get a TD.

    He will need to use Leg kicks and striking.

    Its a dangerous game, but he wont be out grappling JDS at all.
    Did Cain say this as a ruse or is this your own concoction?
  • fourthnorsemanfourthnorseman Posts: 4,251Free
    edited December 2012
    Junglebird;3008766 said:
    you guys arnt listening.


    Cain wont get a TD.

    He will need to use Leg kicks and striking.

    Its a dangerous game, but he wont be out grappling JDS at all.
    You're not listening...If he does that at close range he may not need to get a TD.

    If he puts relentless pressure on I could also see JDS pull a condit performance. He already is pretty much a counter striker 85 % of the time. :D
  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
    edited December 2012
    fourthnorseman;3008776 said:
    You're not listening...If he does that at close range he may not need to get a TD.

    If he puts relentless pressure on I could also see JDS pull a condit performance. He already is pretty much a counter striker 85 % of the time. :D
    any fighter would be grateful to have a Condit % finish rate
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  • fourthnorsemanfourthnorseman Posts: 4,251Free
    edited December 2012
    Junglebird;3008786 said:
    any fighter would be grateful to have a Condit % finish rate
    Nice comeback! ****!

    Watch JDS run like a girl! :p
  • PolymerasePolymerase Posts: 1,230Registered Users
    edited December 2012
    JDS will KO Cain and then he will KO Ubereem.

    If Cain wins somehow, I don't see him beating down Ubereem. Too big to be taken down and controlled on the ground. And don't even mention Brock, he even admitted to not being a fighter lol
  • fourthnorsemanfourthnorseman Posts: 4,251Free
    edited December 2012
    Polymerase;3008790 said:
    JDS will KO Cain and then he will KO Ubereem.

    If Cain wins somehow, I don't see him beating down Ubereem. Too big to be taken down and controlled on the ground. And don't even mention Brock, he even admitted to not being a fighter lol
    Stopped reading right there...
  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
    edited December 2012
    Polymerase;3008790 said:
    JDS will KO Cain and then he will KO Ubereem.

    If Cain wins somehow, I don't see him beating down Ubereem. Too big to be taken down and controlled on the ground. And don't even mention Brock, he even admitted to not being a fighter lol
    Cain man handled Hugefoot Silver... He would GnP Overeem into dust.


    JDS would KO reem back to pre puberty
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  • GoToGuyGoToGuy Posts: 5,362Free
    edited December 2012
    Polymerase;3008790 said:
    JDS will KO Cain and then he will KO Ubereem.

    If Cain wins somehow, I don't see him beating down Ubereem. Too big to be taken down and controlled on the ground. And don't even mention Brock, he even admitted to not being a fighter lol
    Bigfoot isn't exactly tiny you know? Cain took him down easy and butt raped him handily. Cain will try to take it to the ground and keep it there. If he can't he will probably lose or get ktfo, again.
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  • EccentricMeatEccentricMeat Posts: 2,317Free
    edited December 2012
    cruz2990;3008620 said:
    I think your wrong Cain will take him down but that's not all he is going to do he is gunna mix up......
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  • ForrestGriffinFan101ForrestGriffinFan101 Posts: 7,663Registered Users
    edited December 2012
    Yeah, I totally agree.

    He's probably gonna get knocked out too.
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  • Bubba_PilksBubba_Pilks Posts: 8,410Free
    edited December 2012
    zaksame;3008566 said:
    That's it?? Just a he won't ?
    Sounds more like a guess than sound reasoning no ?
    He might not because JDS almost never commits,unless you practically fade against the cage in self defense and even then he might hesitate.
    JDS will stay out of Cain's reach so Cain is most certainly going to have to telegraph his TD,if he attempts any.
    I don't liek the coward way JDS fights,if he is suppose to be a legit champion,then engage,don't stay out of the others guys reach forcing the OTHER fighter to make the fight.

    I think Cain should instead stay back and let jDS come to him,then use feints just to keep JDS honest.I think even if and when JDS would come to him,he would actually do it defensively and not really engage.As long as Cain has done his homework and realizes how JDS fights,he should do ok,he needs to not waste energy and ONLY go for a TD when JDS is moving to him.
    Cowards way of fighting ???

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  • EightLimbAssassinEightLimbAssassin Posts: 576Free
    edited December 2012
    If Cain somehow manages to take JDS down look for Junior to pop up instantly. Junior has great hips and balance and he also has deceptively great strength. Carwin who is a hulk at HW said he was surprised at how strong he was.
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    edited December 2012
    EightLimbAssassin;3009214 said:
    If Cain somehow manages to take JDS down look for Junior to pop up instantly. Junior has great hips and balance and he also has deceptively great strength. Carwin who is a hulk at 205 said he was surprised at how strong he was.
    even if he does take jds, santos just got black belt in bjj so expect the fight to end quickly with a submission off of his back from jds.
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  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
    edited December 2012
    Bubba_Pilks;3009209 said:
    Cowards way of fighting ???

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    zaksame just got raped.
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  • GSP_over_SilvaGSP_over_Silva Posts: 12,185Free
    edited December 2012
    I hope does get a TD. So, I can bump this thread.

    Then, I hope Cain gets KTFO'd, so Cruz can leave, or be ridiculed.
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  • ZenWarriorZenWarrior Posts: 1,355Registered Users
    edited December 2012
    Polymerase;3008790 said:
    JDS will KO Cain and then he will KO Ubereem.

    If Cain wins somehow, I don't see him beating down Ubereem. Too big to be taken down and controlled on the ground. And don't even mention Brock, he even admitted to not being a fighter lol

    Seriously? I think that was just Brock talking in the heat of the moment. Anybody that can beat Carwin is a fighter imo.
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