Who has the greater chance of winning: Diaz or Sonnen

PolymerasePolymerase Posts: 1,230Registered Users
edited January 2013 in UFC
A lot of people seem to say Chael vs Jones is a huge mismatch and a wasted fight.

But.... many of them are OK with Nick and Georges. This doesn't really make sense to me because I think Chael has a way better chance at winning over Nick beating Georges.

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  • britishrangerbritishranger Posts: 1,272Free
    edited January 2013
    Firstly Sonnen is a chump he has no right being in the ring with another champion, he has not earned the right its that simple!!! Secondly Nick Diaz has HUGE chance of beating GSP, Diaz has everything except takedown defence, he has a fantastic chin maybe even the best in the sport, he has fantastic striking, fantastic cardio again maybe the best in the sport, and he is a black belt in Gracie Jui Jitsu! He is the stand out fighter to challenge GSP and only in beating Nick can GSP say he is a dominant champion
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  • PolymerasePolymerase Posts: 1,230Registered Users
    edited January 2013
    britishranger;3015590 said:
    Firstly Sonnen is a chump he has no right being in the ring with another champion, he has not earned the right its that simple!!! Secondly Nick Diaz has HUGE chance of beating GSP, Diaz has everything except takedown defence, he has a fantastic chin maybe even the best in the sport, he has fantastic striking, fantastic cardio again maybe the best in the sport, and he is a black belt in Gracie Jui Jitsu! He is the stand out fighter to challenge GSP and only in beating Nick can GSP say he is a dominant champion
    But your sig says Jones will be beaten. If not be Chael then by who? Hendo? lol
  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,723Free
    edited January 2013
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  • PakaLPakaL Posts: 4,086Elite
    edited January 2013
    Polymerase;3015558 said:
    A lot of people seem to say Chael vs Jones is a huge mismatch and a wasted fight.

    But.... many of them are OK with Nick and Georges. This doesn't really make sense to me because I think Chael has a way better chance at winning over Nick beating Georges.

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    I say sonnen has a better chance if he avoids the magical banana peel this time.Diaz will stick to the night of the living dead tactic.Diaz bros with kicks knees and elbows equals dangerous.Diaz bros with the mad dog boxing tactic equals bendo nate results.
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  • fobarfobar Posts: 27,337Free
    edited January 2013
    Sonnen has zero to no chance

    Diaz has a 58.2% chance
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  • RodrigoRuaRodrigoRua Posts: 2,422Free
    edited January 2013
    Polymerase;3015558 said:
    A lot of people seem to say Chael vs Jones is a huge mismatch and a wasted fight.

    But.... many of them are OK with Nick and Georges. This doesn't really make sense to me because I think Chael has a way better chance at winning over Nick beating Georges.

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    First of all, ask yourself who is a most complet fighter, including titles, ground game, chin, cardio, boxing, reach, experience, BJJ, JJ defense, etc .... then you will probably understant why Nick is dangerous to GSP.

    D not care for Diaz brother BUT seat in here and say Diaz is NOT a legit trouble for GSP is just crazy !!!
  • WireratWirerat Posts: 4,932Registered Users
    edited January 2013
    Nick is about as Dangerous to GSP as a 10 year old girl would be.

    Sonnen has a slightly better shot simply because his aggression and pace could throw Jones out of sorts temporarily. Diaz isn't bringing nothing to the table that GSP hasn't already seen and beaten with ease. When will people realize what a scrub that tool really is? Oh yeah, when he's cut from the UFC around mid 2014 after 4 straight losses. Or after GSP dominates his whiney little butt and he gets butt hurt and cries his way to retirement.
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  • SistiSisti Posts: 5,312Free
    edited January 2013
    Nick and Chael are similar in that they both have much less skill than the champ. The difference is that Nick has been taking names for a seriously long time in SF and it's more of a merging belts type of fight. Chael, on the other hand, is just getting another title shot based on the fallout of 151

    Of the 2, I'd say Nick has a better shot. Still very very minimal, but GSP's chin is not perfect, and Diaz does possess the potential to rock GSP

    Chael doesn't have many ways to beat Jones, don't see him grinding out a decision or securing a finish so his chances are a little less
  • MMAEarsMMAEars Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    edited January 2013
    Nick has the better chance simply because Sonnen is out of his league here. He will be worked so bad by Jones, it won't even be funny.

    Diaz has a chance against GSP but that's about it. It's GSP's fight to lose.
  • hasopashahasopasha Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    god the nick nuthugging pisses me of he has never beaten a wrestler and now he is gonna beat the best wrestler in both divisions wtf?

    sonnen has more chance imo
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  • fobarfobar Posts: 27,337Free
    hasopasha said:

    god the nick nuthugging pisses me of he has never beaten a wrestler and now he is gonna beat the best wrestler in both divisions wtf?

    sonnen has more chance imo

    sonnen nuthuggers are awful
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  • basementbasement Posts: 127Free
    According to these forums Cain had no chance....
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  • hasopashahasopasha Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    fobar said:

    hasopasha said:

    god the nick nuthugging pisses me of he has never beaten a wrestler and now he is gonna beat the best wrestler in both divisions wtf?

    sonnen has more chance imo

    sonnen nuthuggers are awful

    what makes you think i'm a sonnen ****?
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  • fobarfobar Posts: 27,337Free
    hasopasha said:

    fobar said:

    hasopasha said:

    god the nick nuthugging pisses me of he has never beaten a wrestler and now he is gonna beat the best wrestler in both divisions wtf?

    sonnen has more chance imo

    sonnen nuthuggers are awful
    what makes you think i'm a sonnen ****?

    I didnt say you were did I? all i said was they are awful
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  • GHBDGHBD Posts: 19Free
    Sonnen has less of a chance than Vitor did, he will take a beating just to get paid. Love Diaz to win but it is unlikely too, no way GSP will stand and trade and his sub defence is good. GSP by UD
  • HappyFeetHappyFeet Posts: 2,350Free

    A lot of people seem to say Chael vs Jones is a huge mismatch and a wasted fight.

    But.... many of them are OK with Nick and Georges. This doesn't really make sense to me because I think Chael has a way better chance at winning over Nick beating Georges.

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    I think Sonnen does. There is an off-chance Jones can't defend the takedown, and has a weak back game, but Diaz is going to get murdilated.
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  • Wanderlei_RuaWanderlei_Rua Posts: 955Free
    Diaz fight plan will be simple. Walk forward with a smug look winging punches until he gets taken down. Then at some point during the fight Diaz will need GSP to miraculously have a brain aneurysm at the exact same moment that Nick secures an armbar attempt. Easy submission win.

    Sonnen's game plan is a little more complex. Jones will actually have to have an off night, a blistering case of herpes, a mild stroke mid-fight and Chael will also need to employ the use of a cageside hypnotist in order to land takedowns. Tough split decision win for Chael.

    I'd say Diaz.
  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,589Free
    Diaz has insanely higher chances of beating GSP.

    Chael vs Jones is a complete waste of time that no one asked for. They've used Chael to help revive the TUF series by using his amazing ability to BS his way in and out of anything and everything but when it comes fight time the skill gap between Jones and Sonnen, combined with the the size advantage Jones always carries is just going to be way too much. The only interesting part about the match up is that we might finally see someone pressure Jones instead of just sitting at the end of his 10 foot reach. But that will last for what? Probably a minute before Jones adjusts and uses his more diverse game to beat Chael anywhere he wants. If Chael can't bully his opponents he has nothing and I can;t see him bullying Jones.. physically at least..

    On the other hand Diaz is a well-rounded fighter that could give GSP troubles everywhere. I don't expect him to but he is skilled wherever the fight takes place and due to GSP's safe nature and Diaz's toughness he has 5 rounds to work his jiu jitsu off his back or land a good combo and hurt GSP. All things Chael does not have the luxury of having.
  • cruz2990cruz2990 MexicoPosts: 8,116Free
    to be honest neither do really but if I had to choose one I would say Diaz at least he is not in the negative percentage of possibly of winning.......
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  • TinychatBtarrdzTinychatBtarrdz Posts: 451Free
    Both have and equal chance of winning their fights and that is 100%.
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  • mutharashamutharasha Posts: 700Free
    definatly Diaz, he will always have a chance for a freak sub or ko, especially since GSP isn't what you call a finisher. Chael really doesn't have much chance at all based on what we've seen of him recently, cos he ain't holding Jon down for 25 minutes
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  • littlecalgary1littlecalgary1 Posts: 4Registered Users
    Chael .P. Sonnen will take Jones down whenever he wants and ground and pound Jones into irrelevance.
  • xCappaxxCappax Posts: 96Elite
    I think both fights will be even.... I don't think any one is more of a "mismatch" then the other but yeah GSP and Jones are still the favorites and I think they'll both win.
  • JbrahamsJbrahams Brisbane, AustraliaPosts: 11,775Ultimate
    Diaz, even though GSP will dominate him anyway
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  • DoobsterDoobster Posts: 2,096Free
    They have about the same chances in my opinion.

    Diaz, however, has the best chance to get a title around his waist SOONER than Sonnen.

    duh!

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    Diaz w/o doubt has a better shot than Sonnen
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