Cain Velasquez responds to Tyson Fury's challenge to fight

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Perfect response imo. These boxers sound ridiculous trying trying to call out MMA fighters. I thought we were done with this after Couture vs. Toney. Like any boxer has a chance against an MMA fighter with a collegiate wrestling background. Get real

Source: http://fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Cain-Velasquez-responds-to-recent-comments-by-boxing-champion-Tyson-Fury.html
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  • WarWestWarWest Posts: 26,135Free
    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance
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  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,342Free
    imo, boxers have more chance at mma than the opposite. but that doesn't mean much.

    i also think people are calling champs so much because they realized you just need some hype to get a title shot. sonnen effect.
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  • Tiger_ChampionTiger_Champion Posts: 1,443Free
    that's prob the best response you could give. Forgetting everything else Fury is a nobody famous for punching himself in the head. Cains all class...
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  • JuzieJuzie Posts: 3,880Free
    He should of just said "Who?" and left it as that. Guy is just trying to get his name out there but as soon as he fights someone descent (MMA or boxing) he's getting murdered.
  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 8,661Free
    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
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  • JohneeJohnee Posts: 4Registered Users
    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
    Sure it's possible, but I'm pretty sure Overeem would get murdered. He is too heavy, would be sad to see him vs. any of the Klitschko's in boxing. Or any other top 10 SHW for that part.
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  • WarWestWarWest Posts: 26,135Free
    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
    No, not even close

    None of the people you mentioned would do well against a top boxer at any weight

    Boxers train boxing, all the time

    MMA's train MMA, all the time

    Put any boxer in a MMA fight with a top guy, they lose

    Put any MMA in a boxing match with a top guy, they lose

    There is no argument
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  • Gabri1985Gabri1985 Posts: 5,819Free
    WarWest said:

    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
    No, not even close

    None of the people you mentioned would do well against a top boxer at any weight

    Boxers train boxing, all the time

    MMA's train MMA, all the time

    Put any boxer in a MMA fight with a top guy, they lose

    Put any MMA in a boxing match with a top guy, they lose

    There is no argument
    Have to agree, your talking about the elite of there sports here. Overeem wouldn't last with any of the top heavyweights, Both the Brothers, Haye ect would destroy him most likely inside two rounds.

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  • HEAVYD2117HEAVYD2117 Posts: 138Registered Users
    How about a boxer vs an MMA fighter with kickboxing/ thai rules. No take downs allowed but kicks, knees and elbows all legal?
  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 17,508Free

    How about a boxer vs an MMA fighter with kickboxing/ thai rules. No take downs allowed but kicks, knees and elbows all legal?

    I'd rather see them settle it in XARM
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 8,661Free
    WarWest said:

    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
    No, not even close

    None of the people you mentioned would do well against a top boxer at any weight

    Boxers train boxing, all the time

    MMA's train MMA, all the time

    Put any boxer in a MMA fight with a top guy, they lose

    Put any MMA in a boxing match with a top guy, they lose

    There is no argument
    I'm not saying they would go in a compete with the best boxers...im saying mma elite strikers who have pure stand up experence have a better chance to hang in boxing then a too boxer hangin it in mma

    No top boxer could make it to the ufc and win...nor in the smaller promos like bellator,titan ect

    I think a few too guys like the guys I listed could get a few wins here and there on the small Promos of boxing like the NABO...there is no way any mma guy is getting a legit world title...but they could hang with some journey men maybe
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  • HEAVYD2117HEAVYD2117 Posts: 138Registered Users

    How about a boxer vs an MMA fighter with kickboxing/ thai rules. No take downs allowed but kicks, knees and elbows all legal?

    I'd rather see them settle it in XARM
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  • FroZeNFroZeN Posts: 4,013Free
    Tyson Fury sounds like a cheap pr0n movie actor name.
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  • BanutuBanutu Posts: 514Registered Users
    JDS would beat Haye, and with enough training even klitschko imo
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  • Gabri1985Gabri1985 Posts: 5,819Free
    Banutu said:

    JDS would beat Haye, and with enough training even klitschko imo

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha not a chance in hell he would beat Haye, not even close.
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  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,342Free
    JDS wouldn't have a chance as well (even before Cain II i would say that) because mma boxing is very different to real boxing.
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  • WarWestWarWest Posts: 26,135Free
    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
    No, not even close

    None of the people you mentioned would do well against a top boxer at any weight

    Boxers train boxing, all the time

    MMA's train MMA, all the time

    Put any boxer in a MMA fight with a top guy, they lose

    Put any MMA in a boxing match with a top guy, they lose

    There is no argument
    I'm not saying they would go in a compete with the best boxers...im saying mma elite strikers who have pure stand up experence have a better chance to hang in boxing then a too boxer hangin it in mma

    No top boxer could make it to the ufc and win...nor in the smaller promos like bellator,titan ect

    I think a few too guys like the guys I listed could get a few wins here and there on the small Promos of boxing like the NABO...there is no way any mma guy is getting a legit world title...but they could hang with some journey men maybe
    Ah, I see what you're saying

    Yeah, it's possible
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  • JDS_over_REEMJDS_over_REEM Posts: 1,546Free
    Cain handled that with class. haha.
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  • najmanajma Posts: 523Free
    Overeem can beat any boxer out there. His a top world kickboxer for crying out loud.
    Moussasi can beat any boxer out there too. He beat the K-1 World Champion for crying out loud with only one training camp totally focused on striking.
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  • britishrangerbritishranger Posts: 1,272Free
    Johnee said:

    BruteDion said:

    WarWest said:

    Same with an MMA fighter trying to call out a top boxer

    No chance

    Cept some top mma guys have pure stand up experience at the world level

    Overeem could most likly make it a contest with any top boxer

    Cerrone is former world champ kickboxer...could he touch some boxer of his weight?

    Manhoef scares killers shitless...he's willing to bang with guys twice his size

    Daley...see Cerrone

    and a few other....im not saying they would all win...but what im sayin they would make it hell of a lot closer to winning in boxing then any boxer could win in mma
    Sure it's possible, but I'm pretty sure Overeem would get murdered. He is too heavy, would be sad to see him vs. any of the Klitschko's in boxing. Or any other top 10 SHW for that part.
    I dont think you can really say this because for one the Klitchsko brothers are HW at the worst ever time in the history of the weight class and secondly MMA fighters are faster more athletic and much more dynamic strikers than boxers
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    If only Hari could stay out of jail for more than 3 months at a time we might find out.
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  • uddasideuddaside Posts: 1,701Free
    Take on Cain? he needs to finish with the plumbers first.

  • najmanajma Posts: 523Free
    I'd love Sonnen to unleash his absurd comedy smack talk fury on Fury. That'd be too funny.
  • AmerimanAmeriman Posts: 1,571Free
    najma said:

    I'd love Sonnen to unleash his absurd comedy smack talk fury on Fury. That'd be too funny.

    Even Sonnen could UD this clown.
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  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 17,508Free
    Ameriman said:

    najma said:

    I'd love Sonnen to unleash his absurd comedy smack talk fury on Fury. That'd be too funny.

    Even Sonnen could UD this clown.
    Sonnen via KO. He's the more well rounded striker
  • najmanajma Posts: 523Free
    Ameriman said:

    najma said:

    I'd love Sonnen to unleash his absurd comedy smack talk fury on Fury. That'd be too funny.

    Even Sonnen could UD this clown.
    Why do you say "EVEN" Sonnen?
    Dude, Sonnen manhandled the best P4P MMA fighter in the world on the ground with his grappling.
    Now, you want to give him a guy with zero ground game, right?

    If somebody is to tool that boxer like a rag doll, it IS a guy like Sonnen.
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