hair and beard: pros and cons

spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,239Free
i was rewatching kz vs poirier and as soon as kz opened poirier's head they started to talk how easier and faster a shaved head opens.

but a brazilian fighter once said he shaved his head to prevent submissions.

does it make any real difference? who's got the advantage?

speaking of hair: how much does the beard protect your face? is it why jones is growing one?

more important: should cyborg stop shaving?
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  • TUF1TUF1 Posts: 8,844Registered Users
    beards are legit. just look how well they've worked out for these gentlemen

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  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,239Free
    oh thanks for clearing that up, i thought beards were super shields that make you indestructible :-w
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  • TUF1TUF1 Posts: 8,844Registered Users
    i really don't think hair or facial hair affects a fight in anyway maybe other than protecting from cuts to the head from elbows or something

    Look at Bendos hair. Would still probably take all of Team Alpha Male to get that guy in a choke.
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  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,239Free
    najma said:

    Shaving is gay.

    some people agree with you

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  • najmanajma Posts: 516Free

    najma said:

    Shaving is gay.

    some people agree with you

    imageDid those two old farts marry already?
    As far as I'm concerned they came out of closet the very first day they showed up.

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  • Hayden512Hayden512 Posts: 1,774Free
    Facial hair - no difference.

    However back when I first started jujitsu a few years ago I had longer air. If I got put in a guillotine it would pull the **** out of it when I would pull my head out. I think I cut my hair a week later.
    Post edited by Hayden512 on
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  • xShogunxxShogunx Posts: 32Free
    Its a strategy. It makes your opponent uncomfortable when you tickle them.
    _Shogun_Cain_Hendo_
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  • KOOKORKKOOKORK Posts: 507Free
    I remember Clay Guida fight with Takanori Gomi . Guida started to hair dance and Gomi could not find where the hell is the head of Guida. Gomi was kind of mesmerized and lost the game not to Guida but to his hair dancing.
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  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,239Free
    najma said:

    najma said:

    Shaving is gay.

    some people agree with you

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    Did those two old farts marry already?
    As far as I'm concerned they came out of closet the very first day they showed up.

    so shaving is as gay as beards? :)
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  • the_enigmathe_enigma Posts: 16,958Moderator, Ultimate
    KOOKORK said:

    I remember Clay Guida fight with Takanori Gomi . Guida started to hair dance and Gomi could not find where the hell is the head of Guida. Gomi was kind of mesmerized and lost the game not to Guida but to his hair dancing.

    That display was ridiculous. I swear Guida is in the wrong industry. He should be in a **** circus.
    He starts out getting beat up for a living, and managing to hug people to decisions.
    Then he evolves into a blend of a floor mop and a snake flute charmer.
    Then he evolves into some kind of "elusive" fighter... except that for Guida being elusive means never actually engaging for the duration of the bout.



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  • sobercubansobercuban Posts: 25,044Moderator, Ultimate
    If you can't grow a beard you are not a real man
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  • thesoulpowerthesoulpower Posts: 4,360Free

    If you can't grow a beard you are not a real man

    Are you seriously going to sit there and try and tell me Justin Bieber isn't a real man?
    Wanderlei_Rua
  • KOOKORKKOOKORK Posts: 507Free

    KOOKORK said:

    I remember Clay Guida fight with Takanori Gomi . Guida started to hair dance and Gomi could not find where the hell is the head of Guida. Gomi was kind of mesmerized and lost the game not to Guida but to his hair dancing.

    That display was ridiculous. I swear Guida is in the wrong industry. He should be in a **** circus.
    He starts out getting beat up for a living, and managing to hug people to decisions.
    Then he evolves into a blend of a floor mop and a snake flute charmer.
    Then he evolves into some kind of "elusive" fighter... except that for Guida being elusive means never actually engaging for the duration of the bout.



    Funny points you added.

    He used to work in a crab Boat in Alaska. Recently he has made a Sandwich named "Carpenter". So who knows , maybe one day he begins to work in a circus as a hair dancer or even in a heavy metal band as a pro head banger.!!!

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  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 17,443Free
    Beards make you look fully hectic bro.
  • WarWestWarWest Posts: 26,076Free
    najma said:

    Did those two old farts marry already?
    As far as I'm concerned they came out of closet the very first day they showed up.

    You sir,

    Can slap your damn self for that comment
    Post edited by WarWest on
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  • The_Barbarian2The_Barbarian2 Posts: 39Free
    ask matt mitrione he fought kimbo slice and the big bearded roy nelson
  • hasopashahasopasha Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    if you are bald it makes a bit easier to slip out of guillotines especcialy if you are sweaty
    Kazushi Sakuraba*



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  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 16,248Free
    Hair on head does help a little to cushion direct impact from a sharp object such as an elbow to cut but it's insignificant as far as the bludgenening effect and getting your brain scrambled inside your skull. It does absorb the flow of blood somewhat.

    No hair does allow you to slip out of guillotine like chokes more easily because with hair there is more friction and it absorbs sweat. Facial hair can help a little with cutting but cuts on the jaw or chin are pretty rare and it's a much smaller surface area and it's easier to slide/roll impacts.

    One advantage though is a does sort of hide your jaw/chin structure a little so if someone is good enough to accurately pin point shots to more vulnerable areas like coming across and through your chin for straights ( for that concussive/whiplash effect ) or targeting the the edge of the ramus section of your mandable with a hook trying to dislocate the jaw. In those cases having a thick beard could be beneficial there atleast a little.

    You get hit on the chin/jaw hard it's not gonna matter that much anyway though and another thing is it's a disadvantage also in a way because unless your skin is the same color you've basically just painted a target on your whole jaw.
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  • WalkLikeAWarrior707WalkLikeAWarrior707 Posts: 5,246Free
    I think a beard like Michael Chiesa's could actually provide a bit of padding. That **** is thick!
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 5,323Free
    najma said:

    Shaving is gay.

    It's not but I wish I didn't have to..
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  • MegasoupMegasoup Posts: 1,494Free

    If you can't grow a beard you are not a real man

    Are you seriously going to sit there and try and tell me Justin Bieber isn't a real man?
    This is great!
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  • secondsoutsecondsout Posts: 328Free
    you know its a tough one to call: Bieber on one side, ZZ Top on the other......i don't want to mess with either of them. :-S
  • classicboxerclassicboxer Posts: 9,975Free
    najma said:

    najma said:

    Shaving is gay.

    some people agree with you

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    Did those two old farts marry already?
    As far as I'm concerned they came out of closet the very first day they showed up.

    P4P in the 70's.
  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,239Free

    I think a beard like Michael Chiesa's could actually provide a bit of padding. That **** is thick!

    first successful search i ever saw here lol
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    #2: Barry | Glover | Mutante | Gunnar | Barboza | Siver
    #3: Roy | Mousasi | Belfort | Diaz | Pettis | KZ

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  • spartacus_spartacus_ Posts: 4,239Free


    P4P in the 70's.

    hard time to be p4p, roster was stacked back then
    Post edited by spartacus_ on
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  • PunchBagPunchBag Posts: 3,218Free
    jones is growing a kimbo beard
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  • WalkLikeAWarrior707WalkLikeAWarrior707 Posts: 5,246Free

    I think a beard like Michael Chiesa's could actually provide a bit of padding. That **** is thick!

    first successful search i ever saw here lol
    Haha Chiesa's beard reminded me about this thread.
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