do you want a "zero tolerance" policy?

BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,499Free
Let's say tomorrow Dana came out and said the UFC will be a 100 percent clean organization

He would come out with a list of drugs,treatments,masking agents,ect that would be on this list...and it would be ever growing with new drugs that come out over time

He would say the UFC and the commissions would work and hand in hand with one another for a set and random testing schedule

And any fighter caught would be cut immediately if there is a failed test where there was a banned substance was found...a redo would happen at a later date in the event of a possible sabotage to a test or a fighter himself

Also if a fighter is busted in another promo it would not effect his chances of signing with the ufc

Would u want something like this to happen
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,499Free
    How do u add a poll?
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  • Gabri1985Gabri1985 Manchester, England Posts: 7,695Free
    I would want random testing for sure but not one strike and your out, First positive test should be a year ban, second two years and if you get a third your banned from competing.

    Also bans should be universal so any ban you get for a positive test should apply for anywhere in the world.
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,499Free
    Well that's what they pretty much do now...first strike its a year for most guy it seems

    But the second strike is 2 years would be pretty harsh...that it self may keep people from doing it
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,816Free
    Just like the military
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  • PoloRidahPoloRidah Posts: 11,363Free
    WarWest said:

    Just like the military

    Well while I was in the Army on active duty I have seen some people piss hot and immediately get chaptered out. Others though were given a second chance depending on their back ground.

    Could you imagine how many fighters the UFC would of lost from their roster if there was a zero tolerance policy with no second chances? LoL
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,816Free
    PoloRidah said:

    WarWest said:

    Just like the military

    Well while I was in the Army on active duty I have seen some people piss hot and immediately get chaptered out. Others though were given a second chance depending on their back ground.

    Could you imagine how many fighters the UFC would of lost from their roster if there was a zero tolerance policy with no second chances? LoL
    When I was in the Navy there was never a second chance

    You pop, you're gone

    Each division would have like 3 fighters Lmao
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,499Free
    And that's my point

    Unless u want a one strike your out type of deal or something set to where it is vastly vastly worst to get cought using the stuff then don't complain,look down,scuff at a fighter who does use the stuff

    People always look for an edge...and unless u want the sport to be totally clean with less talented guys don't **** talk on Overeem,marquart,leban,Alves,Hendo,Mir,ect

    Just in that list of guy I said I'm almost sure someone could call a guy like Overeem bad for the sport but at the same time like Chris Leban
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,816Free
    Diaz is the worst one of all of them
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  • PoloRidahPoloRidah Posts: 11,363Free
    WarWest said:

    Diaz is the worst one of all of them

    I know right. Using THC as a PED.

    What a genious. =))
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,816Free
    PoloRidah said:

    WarWest said:

    Diaz is the worst one of all of them

    I know right. Using THC as a PED.

    What a genious. =))
    Lmfao!!!!!!!!
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  • sdboltzsdboltz Posts: 732Free
    Hell no I dont want a zero tolerance policy. I'd rather have what Sonnen suggested, An all steroids league!
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  • zaksamezaksame Posts: 4,342Free
    I want an absolute PURE sport,after all what else are we cheering for?We already got the circus acts like WWE,i have zero interest in watching soap operas in the ring between steroid abusers.
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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,045Free
    edited January 2013
    BruteDion said:

    Let's say tomorrow Dana came out and said the UFC will be a 100 percent clean organization

    He would come out with a list of drugs,treatments,masking agents,ect that would be on this list...and it would be ever growing with new drugs that come out over time

    He would say the UFC and the commissions would work and hand in hand with one another for a set and random testing schedule

    And any fighter caught would be cut immediately if there is a failed test where there was a banned substance was found...a redo would happen at a later date in the event of a possible sabotage to a test or a fighter himself

    Also if a fighter is busted in another promo it would not effect his chances of signing with the ufc

    Would u want something like this to happen

    yes except that if a fighter got caught in another promotion and has an history for juicing he should be kept out of the UFC as well. If not people will juice in order to get to the UFC and this may deplete the sport of some guys with good talent and good integrity that got **** over in the earlier stages of their carreer by juicers that kept them from reaching the higher steps leading to the UFC.

    You juice, you won't be fighting in the UFC. Simple as that.

    and there should be random testing for all fighters even when they're not scheduled for a fight in the short term.

    That would rock.

    That being said I think they should still have some sort of lighter penalities when a fighter gets caught for a banned substance that is not illegal. I Mean.. sometimes guys will test positive for stuff that is forbidden not because it is a PED but because it is known to lower the efficiency of some tests.. or stuff like that... I mean.. sometimes guys will get caught for weird derivatives that can be found in some foods or else..

    If they were to implement a zero tolerance policy they of course have to set up a better definition of what is legal, what is not, why and in what terms.

    But there should be no free pass for stuff like having a 17:1 testosterone ratio on fight night. there's no excuse for that.
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    BruteDion said:

    How do u add a poll?

    you have to start the thread as a poll
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    I am an idiot for thinking GSP could finish the P4P GOAT Nick Diaz within 5 rounds
  • carnages41carnages41 Posts: 36,335Free
    This would kill MMA, there would be like 2 fighters left in each division and they will be fat like penn or anorexic like Diaz
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  • classicboxerclassicboxer Posts: 11,847Free
    "Random" testing would never be used fairly. Mandatory testing would be the only fair option.
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  • Gabri1985Gabri1985 Manchester, England Posts: 7,695Free
    Random testing would be done fairly as long as the ufc not have control over it, every fighter should have a random test 4 times a year that way if you juice your running a high risk of getting caught.
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  • the_enigmathe_enigma Posts: 19,081Premium
    This is a great idea... then, if you're in one of these divisions where there's one dominant champ, you can contaminate his drink or whatever, then when he tests positive there's a vacant title for you!
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,499Free
    edited January 2013

    This is a great idea... then, if you're in one of these divisions where there's one dominant champ, you can contaminate his drink or whatever, then when he tests positive there's a vacant title for you!

    Someone clearly didn't read all my post...mostly the part bout a redo in the event of a sabotage possibility happening

    Could fighters not tamper with test now?...does this happen now?
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    One time caught using any form of PED and that should be a life time ban from the UFC.
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  • Gabri1985Gabri1985 Manchester, England Posts: 7,695Free
    Any ban has to be Universal it can't just be oh you can't fight for such a company but you can go and fight for another or you can't fight in this country but you can fight in that one.

    If you had universal bans two years would be a huge amount of time out and could ruin a fighter, would certainly make them think more before using.
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,816Free
    GSP would be screwed if they implemented random testing

    So I doubt it will happen any time soon
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