after aldo/edgar, where do you rank aldo p4p-wise

Sisti

I think that was the best fight ever to gauge where aldo is in the p4p rankings. I think the fact that Edgar scored a few rounds (and weighs less) probably makes aldo go down a bit in terms of being in the top of the world p4p-wise

I'd say

1. Silva
2. Jones
3. GSP
4. Cain
5. Aldo
6. Bendo
7. JDS
8. Hendricks
9. Machida
10. Pettis

Sisti

Oh and the reason I put Machida and Pettis in there is because they fight in their natural weight class. Machida walks around at about 202 and Pettis walks around at about 155, which gives them extra points in the p4p discussion

FroZeN

IMO Aldo should be higher. Edgars beat some of the best of the best and Aldo made that fight look easy for the most part.

Sisti

FroZeN said:

IMO Aldo should be higher. Edgars beat some of the best of the best and Aldo made that fight look easy for the most part.

top 5 p4p is tricky these days (even top 6 if you consider how good bendo has been). i could see why someone would put aldo ahead of gsp and cain, but also see justification for putting cain above aldo. also, i think silva at number 1 is not at thanks but the fact that silva is getting older makes me believe there's a significant chance he's not the best p4p fighter on the planet right now and would very likely lose if he fought gsp or jones.

anyways, i'd say aldo is 4-6 but wouldn't be crazy if someone said he's number 3

SteelerNation43

There's no way you could rank Cain above Aldo, even before the Edgar fight.

I don't see how everyone doesn't agree that the P4P list is as follows (only exception is JOnes or GSP at the #2 spot)

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Aldo
5. Velasquez

Sisti

SteelerNation43 said:

There's no way you could rank Cain above Aldo, even before the Edgar fight.

I don't see how everyone doesn't agree that the P4P list is as follows (only exception is JOnes or GSP at the #2 spot)

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Aldo
5. Velasquez

level of competition cain has beaten vs. level of competition aldo has beaten

WarWest

#2 behind Silva

SteelerNation43

Sisti said:

SteelerNation43 said:

There's no way you could rank Cain above Aldo, even before the Edgar fight.

I don't see how everyone doesn't agree that the P4P list is as follows (only exception is JOnes or GSP at the #2 spot)

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Aldo
5. Velasquez

level of competition cain has beaten vs. level of competition aldo has beaten

.....Aldo has fought a larger amount of top competition when Cain has only fought 3 top guys at best and lost to one of them (granted he redeemed himself in the rematch).

However, that still leaves Cain defeated while Aldo is undefeated since becoming a WEC champion.

TUF1_

Cain ahead of Aldo?

:-O

TUF1_

1. Silva
2. Jones
3. GSP
4. Aldo
5. Benson or Cruz

ultimatefightingchamp

#4

The top 3 is obvious

Sisti

WarWest said:

#2 behind Silva

i'd rank it:

1. ryo chonan
2. anderson silva
3. luciano azevedo
4. jose aldo
5. matt hammill
6. jon jones

Sisti

Cain's last 5 opponents...

JDS X2
Bigfoot
Brock
Big Nog

Aldo's last 5 opp

SteelerNation43 said:

Sisti said:

SteelerNation43 said:

There's no way you could rank Cain above Aldo, even before the Edgar fight.

I don't see how everyone doesn't agree that the P4P list is as follows (only exception is JOnes or GSP at the #2 spot)

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Aldo
5. Velasquez

level of competition cain has beaten vs. level of competition aldo has beaten

.....Aldo has fought a larger amount of top competition when Cain has only fought 3 top guys at best and lost to one of them (granted he redeemed himself in the rematch).

However, that still leaves Cain defeated while Aldo is undefeated since becoming a WEC champion.

both have 1 loss tho...you have to admit that the top fighters at HW are way better than the top fighters at FW. also, Cain is beating people that outweigh him and Aldo's beating people he easily outweighs

top 5 are getting closer and closer these days...so many good fighters

i'm really starting to wonder how much longer silva could stay number 1 seeing as tho his last true challenge was 2 years ago (vitor)

i have a feeling this may be the year we finally get a new consensus number 1. i hope not cuz everyone likes silva, but age eventually catches up to people

UDONNO

1. Silva
2. Aldo
3. Jones
4. GSP
5. Cain

SteelerNation43

Sisti said:

Cain's last 5 opponents...

JDS X2
Bigfoot
Brock
Big Nog

Aldo's last 5 opp

SteelerNation43 said:

Sisti said:

SteelerNation43 said:

There's no way you could rank Cain above Aldo, even before the Edgar fight.

I don't see how everyone doesn't agree that the P4P list is as follows (only exception is JOnes or GSP at the #2 spot)

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Aldo
5. Velasquez

level of competition cain has beaten vs. level of competition aldo has beaten

.....Aldo has fought a larger amount of top competition when Cain has only fought 3 top guys at best and lost to one of them (granted he redeemed himself in the rematch).

However, that still leaves Cain defeated while Aldo is undefeated since becoming a WEC champion.

both have 1 loss tho...you have to admit that the top fighters at HW are way better than the top fighters at FW. also, Cain is beating people that outweigh him and Aldo's beating people he easily outweighs

top 5 are getting closer and closer these days...so many good fighters

i'm really starting to wonder how much longer silva could stay number 1 seeing as tho his last true challenge was 2 years ago (vitor)

i have a feeling this may be the year we finally get a new consensus number 1. i hope not cuz everyone likes silva, but age eventually catches up to people

Unless your moving between weight classes weight doesn't mean anything in a p4p list. You know what your getting yourself into by fighting at the weight class you choose to.

Cain's loss is extremely recent as well. You have to give him a chance to reprove himself and get multiple wins before putting him ahead of Aldo.

SteelerNation43

and as far as the Silva comment.....your crazy man lol. Okami and SOnnen aren't top competition to him? He almost lost to Sonnen. Okami will forever be a top MW. Imo he's facing tougher competition than when he started (with the exception of Bonnar, but we all know that was a fight just thrown together for the UFC.)

WarWest

Sisti said:

i'd rank it:

1. ryo chonan
2. anderson silva
3. luciano azevedo
4. jose aldo
5. matt hammill
6. jon jones

I would have it

Silva
Aldo
Hendo
Joe B.
Jones

GSP_over_Silva

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Mighty Mouse
5. Bendo
6. Aldo
7. Cruz
8. Cain

chons

I threw up a little bit when I saw Hendricks on that list... really?

Silva
GSP
Aldo
Jones
Bendo

PunchBag

agree with chons, cant understand how oyu can put cain above aldo, cain hasnt even defended his belt.

Yesterdays_Hero

1.) Silva
2.) GSP
3.) Aldo

zaksame

You need to ask another question,the same one i ask about Silva,how good is his wrestling?If you can't handle wrestling,you are not even a worthy champ ,let alone any p4p rankings.Hominick exposed his lack of wrestling long ago,i am surprised that none of these fighters are smart enough to exploit it further.
The problem with Edgar is exactly what i knew going in,he fights so one dimensional,he likes to bop and move and throw in some jabs and move some more.His training camp should have been one dimensional.He should have practiced wrestling and more wrestling and come into this fight willing to grapple and wrestle non stop.The more i watch Frankie,the less i feel he is as well rounded as his coach led me to believe.
Aldo is still a great fighter,although that fight he fought well under his ability.When Aldo is allowed to have an all out stand up fight,he is dynamite.

Muzzle_rousey_please

Benson henderson shouldn't be on the list nor sld Edgar.... They have not given out the beatings to be the best p4p ...........

trez1336

1 Anderson Silva

2 Bones

3 Aldo

4 Gsp

5 Cain

6 Bendo

7 Pettis

8 Mighty Mouse

9 Cormier (spelling?)

10 Machida

creep_bb

ultimatefightingchamp said:

#4

The top 3 is obvious

This!

TUF1_

If anybody says anything but Silva, Jones, GSP, Aldo in that order it's hater or fanboy bias.

Yesterdays_Hero

TUF1 said:

If anybody says anything but Silva, Jones, GSP, Aldo in that order it's hater or fanboy bias.

I don't think Jones could beat Silva, Aldo or GSP if they were the same size

TUF1_

Yesterdays_Hero said:

TUF1 said:

If anybody says anything but Silva, Jones, GSP, Aldo in that order it's hater or fanboy bias.

I don't think Jones could beat Silva, Aldo or GSP if they were the same size

Silva/Jones would be a wash but Bones would wreck both Aldo and GSP. Would nullify Aldo's leg kicks and Georges jab with his long reach and stop Pierre shoot with his wrastlin. Georges equals Sonnen with a jab :>

Yesterdays_Hero

TUF1 said:

Yesterdays_Hero said:

TUF1 said:

If anybody says anything but Silva, Jones, GSP, Aldo in that order it's hater or fanboy bias.

I don't think Jones could beat Silva, Aldo or GSP if they were the same size

Silva/Jones would be a wash but Bones would wreck both Aldo and GSP. Would nullify Aldo's leg kicks and Georges jab with his long reach and stop Pierre shoot with his wrastlin. Georges equals Sonnen with a jab :>

He wouldn't have his reach if they were the same size though

TUF1_

Yesterdays_Hero said:

TUF1 said:

Yesterdays_Hero said:

TUF1 said:

If anybody says anything but Silva, Jones, GSP, Aldo in that order it's hater or fanboy bias.

I don't think Jones could beat Silva, Aldo or GSP if they were the same size

Silva/Jones would be a wash but Bones would wreck both Aldo and GSP. Would nullify Aldo's leg kicks and Georges jab with his long reach and stop Pierre shoot with his wrastlin. Georges equals Sonnen with a jab :>

He wouldn't have his reach if they were the same size though

he has longer reach than Struve so his arms would still proportionately be longer than Aldo or GSP's.

Hilite1833

Yesterdays_Hero said:

TUF1 said:

If anybody says anything but Silva, Jones, GSP, Aldo in that order it's hater or fanboy bias.

I don't think Jones could beat Silva, Aldo or GSP if they were the same size

That's like saying that Jones would beat those 3 if they had the same skill set...kinda irrelevant isn't it? That's part of mma. No 2 fighters are the same.