Is Demian Maia officially the best Wrestler/BJJ Combo in MMA?

HappyFeet

I think so. His domination of one of MMA's greatest wrestlers really does prove it too, I don't see how one could disagree.

TUF1

No

Statistically you'd probably have to go with Jones but I'd say yes Maia has the best.

TUF1

No

edit: forgot how many subs Maia had early in his UFC career. 6 compared to 5 UFC subs for jones

HappyFeet

Yes

Jones doesn't have BJJ, he has bully submissions. Saying Jones has great BJJ is pure ignorance. He almost got armbarred by a MW, and barely defended it. Not the sign of a true BJJ ace like Maia.

TUF1

No

HappyFeet said:

Jones doesn't have BJJ, he has bully submissions. Saying Jones has great BJJ is pure ignorance. He almost got armbarred by a MW, and barely defended it. Not the sign of a true BJJ ace like Maia.

Good thing you said wrestling/BJJ combo then huh

Ozpride

Yes. Fitch is easily top 3-5 wrestler at WW and has never been completely neutralized on the ground and his sub defence is indeed legit - Maia owned him. I want to see Maia vs Hendricks and Fitch vs Woodley

carnages41

No

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

TUF1

No

carnages41 said:

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

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carnages41

No

TUF1 said:

carnages41 said:

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

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He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him

That is quite legit

SteelerNation43

Yes

carnages41 said:

TUF1 said:

carnages41 said:

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him

That is quite legit

He got subbed by Dan Lauzon.

carnages41

No

SteelerNation43 said:

carnages41 said:

TUF1 said:

carnages41 said:

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him

That is quite legit

He got subbed by Dan Lauzon.

Thread said nothing about sub defense

SteelerNation43

Yes

carnages41 said:

SteelerNation43 said:

carnages41 said:

TUF1 said:

carnages41 said:

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him

That is quite legit

He got subbed by Dan Lauzon.

Thread said nothing about sub defense

BJJ = sub defense as well

ultimatefightingchamp

Haha carnages was too funny in this thread

rodrodMMA92

Yes

Carnages makes solid points. But I have the Maia thread for a reason.

PunchBag

i think fitch tried to keep it standing but he jsut isnt used to using wrestling in reverse, hes only good at artttacking and being agressive which was something he didnt plan to do agaisnt maia, he wanted to keep it on the feet and avoid the ground game which he just wasn't comfortable with and maia has improved his TDs. agaisnt GSP i just dont see him being effective but hopefully maia can prove me wrong.

Yesterdays_Hero

He was always #2 to Brock and the Brock Lock, now that Brock has retired he is #1

zaksame

No

He pretty much relies on ONE aspect of BJJ and i wouldn't call it a bjj only move and that is the Rnc.His wrestling is nothing,he is only successful because fighters are afraid of his grappling,sop instead of making him pay for carelessly coming in,they try to scramble and run,it makes it super easy for him.

TheMmaKnowItAll

Yes

I would say yes, but lets see Maia vs Shields or Diaz too prove it

megaman

zaksame said:

He pretty much relies on ONE aspect of BJJ and i wouldn't call it a bjj only move and that is the Rnc.His wrestling is nothing,he is only successful because fighters are afraid of his grappling,sop instead of making him pay for carelessly coming in,they try to scramble and run,it makes it super easy for him.

So in other words... He's he best wrestler/BJJ fighter...

NyteRyder

No

carnages41 said:

I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist

This.

Omoplataypus

Yes

Combo? Definitely Maia. I would say GSP would be strong enough to stop Maia's TDs but if Maia got GSP's back in a scramble or something, it would be a wrap. I want to see Maia fight again ASAP.

TUF1

No

Omoplataypus said:

Combo? Definitely Maia. I would say GSP would be strong enough to stop Maia's TDs but if Maia got GSP's back in a scramble or something, it would be a wrap. I want to see Maia fight again ASAP.

thought i remember reading somewhere that shields was coming back to 170. That match up would help heal the butt hurt of never getting to see Maia/Palhares

Omoplataypus

Yes

TUF1 said:

Omoplataypus said:

Combo? Definitely Maia. I would say GSP would be strong enough to stop Maia's TDs but if Maia got GSP's back in a scramble or something, it would be a wrap. I want to see Maia fight again ASAP.

thought i remember reading somewhere that shields was coming back to 170. That match up would help heal the butt hurt of never getting to see Maia/Palhares

Im all for Shields getting destroyed.

TUF1

No

Omoplataypus said:

TUF1 said:

Omoplataypus said:

Combo? Definitely Maia. I would say GSP would be strong enough to stop Maia's TDs but if Maia got GSP's back in a scramble or something, it would be a wrap. I want to see Maia fight again ASAP.

thought i remember reading somewhere that shields was coming back to 170. That match up would help heal the butt hurt of never getting to see Maia/Palhares

Im all for Shields getting destroyed.

it never gets old

Jbrahams

Yes

I think he is, but I think he won't be able to get takedowns against GSP, but if he did get them to the ground then he'd probably do quite well, but against an awesome striker with good TDD he might have trouble

MetatronBJJ

No

HappyFeet said:

Jones doesn't have BJJ, he has bully submissions. Saying Jones has great BJJ is pure ignorance. He almost got armbarred by a MW, and barely defended it. Not the sign of a true BJJ ace like Maia.

I agree. Jones is probably my fav fighter to see, but he just muscles a lot of his submissions. Once I see his De La Riva guard, I'll make my decision lol. I still like GSP as the best combo though at the moment