Who is the best fighter in/outside the UFC that doesn't hold a belt?

PoloRidah

I've added some pole choices but this question isn't limited to these fighters. Just curious who everyone thinks is the best fighter currently in or outside of the UFC without a belt.

SteelerNation43

Lyoto Machida

Machida without question.

Sisti

Vitor Belfort

1. Vitor - he's sandwiched between the 2 best fighters ever (Jones/Silva), anywhere else and he'd definitely have a belt right now lol
2. JDS - so f'in good, but just had a rough loss to cain
3. Machida - such a great fighter, but just has a rough division with Jones being in there

PoloRidah

Vitor Belfort

Sisti said:

1. Vitor - he's sandwiched between the 2 best fighters ever (Jones/Silva), anywhere else and he'd definitely have a belt right now lol
2. JDS - so f'in good, but just had a rough loss to cain
3. Machida - such a great fighter, but just has a rough division with Jones being in there

I can't really choose Machida with loses to Shogun and Rampage.

Sisti

Vitor Belfort

PoloRidah said:

Sisti said:

1. Vitor - he's sandwiched between the 2 best fighters ever (Jones/Silva), anywhere else and he'd definitely have a belt right now lol
2. JDS - so f'in good, but just had a rough loss to cain
3. Machida - such a great fighter, but just has a rough division with Jones being in there

I can't really choose Machida with loses to Shogun and Rampage.

well...if you watched the rampage fight that wasn't really a loss

PunchBag

Lyoto Machida

jds or machida easily

ShannonRitch1p4p

Sisti said:

PoloRidah said:

Sisti said:

1. Vitor - he's sandwiched between the 2 best fighters ever (Jones/Silva), anywhere else and he'd definitely have a belt right now lol
2. JDS - so f'in good, but just had a rough loss to cain
3. Machida - such a great fighter, but just has a rough division with Jones being in there

I can't really choose Machida with loses to Shogun and Rampage.

well...if you watched the rampage fight that wasn't really a loss

It was.

SteelerNation43

Lyoto Machida

Vitor's a little overrated these days....His only top win in the last decade is Bisping....Maybe Franklin too i guess.

Built2Destroy

Vitor Belfort

If I could pick 2 I'd say Belfort and Machida, but the poll only had one option so I went with Belfort.

ultimatefightingchamp

Junior Dos Santos

My completely unbiased vote has to go to Junior dos Santos.

Machida has great skills but c'mon guys, he lost 3 of his last 5, and some people say he's the best WITHOUT A DOUBT?

Way to nuthug homies

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

ultimatefightingchamp

Junior Dos Santos

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

Don't be scared homie

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher

ultimatefightingchamp said:

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

Don't be scared homie

I will give you a simple reason, he is not even an athlete, unprofessional, smokes marijuana and neither show on simple weigh-ins .

PoloRidah

Vitor Belfort

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

There was no trolling in the pole. If you don't want to vote then post who you think is the best fighter without a belt. I clearly stated that in the OP. At least read the **** OP before you criticize.

ultimatefightingchamp

Junior Dos Santos

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

ultimatefightingchamp said:

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

Don't be scared homie

I will give you a simple reason, he is not even an athlete, unprofessional, smokes marijuana and neither show on simple weigh-ins .

athlete - oh he is one and one of the best, he has a great work ethic (triathlons, cycling etc.)

unprofessional - that is fair criticism

But inside the cage Nick Diaz is one of the best, Carlos Condit is the #2 welterweight and he didn't walk by Diaz by any means and admitted that Diaz would probably win had it been more of a brawl.

Nick has somewhat weak wrestling but his boxing is one of the best in the sport (he beat up BJ Penn much worse than Rory did) and his jiu jitsu is not too shabby (who else have you seen pull gogoplatas?)

PoloRidah

Vitor Belfort

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

ultimatefightingchamp said:

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

Don't be scared homie

I will give you a simple reason, he is not even an athlete, unprofessional, smokes marijuana and neither show on simple weigh-ins .

Not an athlete? He runs triathalons and has amazing cardio.


Who's trolling now?

"Neither show on simple weigh-ins" Dafuq does that even mean?

SteelerNation43

Lyoto Machida

lol Nick Diaz not an athlete.....hilarity.

and being unprofessional has nothing to do with if your one of the best fighters or not.

edh1

Anthony Pettis

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

ultimatefightingchamp said:

Fedor_The_Can_Crusher said:

Nick Diaz?!?!?!? LoL, huaheuhaeuhuaeuhuhsaudhaauehauehauheuaeh. This poll is a trolling job, I refuse even to vote

Don't be scared homie

I will give you a simple reason, he is not even an athlete, unprofessional, smokes marijuana and neither show on simple weigh-ins .

Just because he smokes weed doesnt mean he's not an athlete .I

edh1

Anthony Pettis

nick diaz does triathalons for fun,his conditioning is some of THE best in all MMA,to say he isn't an athlete cause he smokes dope is retarded.It's not like it's a PED.hell I am not even a big fan ,but Nick Diaz SIMPLY DOES NOT GAS.Is he a little rough around the edges -sure he is.But if Nick Diaz is not an athlete , Who is.--Not everyone has genetics like GSP

Bandura

Dan Henderson

As a Hendo **** I'm a little dissapointed in you people.

PATSTER

Nick Diaz

NIIIIIIIIIICK

DIAZ!

Yesterdays_Hero

1.) Machida
2.) Frankie
3.) Pettis
4.) Benavidez
5.) JDS
6.) Condit
7.) Vitor
8.) Cormier
9.) Hendo
10.) Weidman
11.) Hendricks
12.) Diaz
13.) Maynard
14.) Mendes
15.) Maia

zaksame

There is no best because it all depends who you put each guy up against.
Maia has looked pretty good.
Gilbert Melendez is an obvious choice.
Rockhold is pretty good but we need to see a couple more fights from him.
Jimmo is a great all around fighter.

There is a common problem among very good fighters that can't get over the hump>>>size.The sad part about this sport is size matters and many fighters are relying on just size and little skill.MOST of the guys at the top of their divisions are guys with size.

Bobo_Vieri

Chael Sonnen

all really good options actually! Voted chael though simply because of what he did to AS.. the guy would be a defending champ if it wasn't for Anderson

the_enigma

Hendo, maybe Pettis but it's hard to say with his loss to Guida, but he has shown improvement in fight intelligence since then by refusing to accept fighting off his back seeing as judges don't have time for that.

ultimatefightingchamp

Junior Dos Santos

Yesterdays_Hero said:

1.) Machida
2.) Frankie

Your top 2 has a combined 2-6 record in their last 8 fights :))

BruteDion

Outside the UFC Nom belt holder is Jacare

I think he's the best MW outside the ufc eventhough he lost to Rockhold...he wins the rematch I think

georgelebrun

Vitor Belfort

I have to go with Vitor, he has starched anyone not named Jones or Silva recently

SteelerNation43

Lyoto Machida

the_enigma said:

Hendo, maybe Pettis but it's hard to say with his loss to Guida, but he has shown improvement in fight intelligence since then by refusing to accept fighting off his back seeing as judges don't have time for that.

you could say the same thing about Hendo only he looked a lot worse against Shields.

SteelerNation43

Lyoto Machida

georgelebrun said:

I have to go with Vitor, he has starched anyone not named Jones or Silva recently

I'll say it again, While he has been destroying the other people, there's not many top names he's beaten on that list. When he starts facing the top guys and beating them then i could agree to Vitor.

ShannonRitch1p4p

Outside- Eddie Alvarez

Inside- JDS