Are the Hepatitis and AIDS blood tests made before fights unable to show other substances like PEDs?

They only detect Hepatitis and Aids? Nothing more in the same tests? Unlike the blood tests made by patients to see if they are able to take some medications? Why the Comission and the UFC doesn't take advantage of this test to see if there are PEDs too? Or they simple doesn't care if there are steroids who are not detectable by the urine test(since they would lose most of they most lucrative athletes)?
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  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
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  • PATSTER said:

    ask joe rogan

    PATSTER said:

    ask joe rogan

    Source, please.

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  • Also Dana complain he doesn't have money to do blood tests(ROFL), if he doesn't want to spend he could use those same tests to verify drugs, without spending a single additional cent.
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  • najmanajma Posts: 2,072Free

    They only detect Hepatitis and Aids? Nothing more in the same tests?

    Dude, it's completely different laboratories that specialize in either these diseases or in PEDs.
    So there would need to be two different samples taken each time, meaning twice as blood taken each time.

    You can't drain a professional athlete out of blood like that.

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  • najma said:

    They only detect Hepatitis and Aids? Nothing more in the same tests?

    Dude, it's completely different laboratories that specialize in either these diseases or in PEDs.
    So there would need to be two different samples taken each time, meaning twice as blood taken each time.

    You can't drain a professional athlete out of blood like that.

    What's your source to say that the blood test of one laboratory only see diseases and the other only drugs of any type?

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  • najmanajma Posts: 2,072Free

    najma said:

    They only detect Hepatitis and Aids? Nothing more in the same tests?

    Dude, it's completely different laboratories that specialize in either these diseases or in PEDs.
    So there would need to be two different samples taken each time, meaning twice as blood taken each time.

    You can't drain a professional athlete out of blood like that.

    What's your source to say that the blood test of one laboratory only see diseases and the other only drugs of any type?
    Blood tests don't "see" anything. It's the human who searches for things applying certain processes that depend on what he is looking for.

    Imagine there is an unknown subtance or material and we want to check if:
    a) it is flammable
    b) it is easier deformable having absorbed water

    To find out "a" you would put in on fire and see if it burns. You wil get your answer, but won't get an answer for "b". And then you can't even use that sample for "b" because you've ruined/modified it.
    The procedure for answering question "b" will not give you the answer to "a" either, will it?

    Now, the methods for looking for diseases like AIDS and substances like PEDs are million times more complex and different from each other.

    The labarotories that test for hepatitis/HIV/AIDS do it for the general public, because diseases concern the whole population. Whereas PEDs are something that only concerns professional athletes and is irrelevant for the general public. Being able to test for them requires a huge amount of money for constant development, and medical labaratories have no absolutely need for such an investement.
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  • zaksamezaksame Posts: 4,342Free
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    IMO the BEST test should involve the hair because they stay in the hair for a very long time.Perhaps that is why so many are shaving their heads.I guess the problem might be that they will find it in the hair but then the athlete just claims that is from a long time ago and is not using it now.IMO TOO BAD,once a cheat,always a cheat,if your hair shows you at one time used it ..TOO BAD ,your out.

    They can mask the blood adding other chemicals and unless those chemicals are on their testing criteria,they will never know.Also they might be using ratios like the cheats upwards of 12:1 or more and just lay low a couple weeks before the fight.That way they get a doctors note stating they "needed" it and might allow them to go slightly over the 6:1 which is already proof of cheating.The system is quite lame ,it is basically setup to allow a little bit of cheating but saying don't go overboard.
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  • ShannonRitch1p4pShannonRitch1p4p Posts: 10,073Free
    zaksame said:

    IMO the BEST test should involve the hair because they stay in the hair for a very long time.Perhaps that is why so many are shaving their heads.I guess the problem might be that they will find it in the hair but then the athlete just claims that is from a long time ago and is not using it now.IMO TOO BAD,once a cheat,always a cheat,if your hair shows you at one time used it ..TOO BAD ,your out.

    They can mask the blood adding other chemicals and unless those chemicals are on their testing criteria,they will never know.Also they might be using ratios like the cheats upwards of 12:1 or more and just lay low a couple weeks before the fight.That way they get a doctors note stating they "needed" it and might allow them to go slightly over the 6:1 which is already proof of cheating.The system is quite lame ,it is basically setup to allow a little bit of cheating but saying don't go overboard.

    Omg this might be your worst one ever.
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  • classicboxerclassicboxer Posts: 11,847Free

    zaksame said:

    IMO the BEST test should involve the hair because they stay in the hair for a very long time.Perhaps that is why so many are shaving their heads.I guess the problem might be that they will find it in the hair but then the athlete just claims that is from a long time ago and is not using it now.IMO TOO BAD,once a cheat,always a cheat,if your hair shows you at one time used it ..TOO BAD ,your out.

    They can mask the blood adding other chemicals and unless those chemicals are on their testing criteria,they will never know.Also they might be using ratios like the cheats upwards of 12:1 or more and just lay low a couple weeks before the fight.That way they get a doctors note stating they "needed" it and might allow them to go slightly over the 6:1 which is already proof of cheating.The system is quite lame ,it is basically setup to allow a little bit of cheating but saying don't go overboard.

    Omg this might be your worst one ever.
    It ranks with the "Ask Joe Rogan" attempt.
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