Gunnar Nelson is very average.

TalkLost · February 17

I was one of the people who fell for this guys hype train and believed he would be the next best thing, but after his performance against Santiago, I believe he will never be anything better than a top 10.

Tahune · February 17

that "karate stance" makes me cringe every time I see it (inb4 somone carries on about Machida : D ). He wore some shot's that he really didn't need to.

SilentDogood · February 17

he fought a middle weight and won, for a second time in a row in the ufc

najma · February 17

Tahune said:
that "karate stance" makes me cringe every time I see it (inb4 somone carries on about Machida : D ). He wore some shot's that he really didn't need to.

LOLWUT?

The karate stance is the coolest thing about him! I love it!

spartacus_ · February 17

he used Santiago to improve his immature striking in MMA, and proved to have a good chin.

it wasn't anything near impressive, but definitely solid.

2014/15 champ!

the_enigma · February 17

top 10 is kinda above average. sorta kinda.

wanderleisilva101 · February 17

I said before the fight he needs to work on his striking he has a lot of potential still I think though.

PunchBag · February 17

santiago has great striking and nelson looked good agaisnt him in the standup, most high tier wws dont have the striking of santiago. They rely on thier ground game.

Ansem · February 17

Gunnar is overhyped.

SteelerNation43 · February 17

His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)

Little_Kang · February 18

not overly impressed with any part of his game. He wont beat the top 5

spartacus_ · February 18

Little_Kang said:
not overly impressed with any part of his game. He wont beat the top 5

please don't edit this post to avoid future embarrassment B-)

Little_Kang · February 18

spartacus_ said:

Little_Kang said:
not overly impressed with any part of his game. He wont beat the top 5
please don't edit this post to avoid future embarrassment B-)

His striking is chalked full of holes, he had trouble with getting jorge down and jorge doesnt exactly have the best grappling in the division and even on the ground he couldnt do anything

gsp beats him
as well as
rory
nick
big rig
condit
macdonald
maia
fitch
maybe ellenberger
maybe shields
etc

spartacus_ · February 18

Little_Kang said:

spartacus_ said:

Little_Kang said:
not overly impressed with any part of his game. He wont beat the top 5
please don't edit this post to avoid future embarrassment B-)
His striking is chalked full of holes, he had trouble with getting jorge down and jorge doesnt exactly have the best grappling in the division and even on the ground he couldnt do anything

gsp beats him
as well as
rory
nick
big rig
condit
macdonald
maia
fitch
maybe ellenberger
maybe shields
etc

i'm impressed, you know the result of every fight he could make just by watching one =D>

RodrigoRua · February 18

Just too early .. just like it was early about Erick and Barboza !!!

Now, I think if he was all that, he would had beaten Santiago (finished) in a more domination way ...

Kid is good tho

SteelerNation43 · February 18

Little_Kang said:

spartacus_ said:

Little_Kang said:
not overly impressed with any part of his game. He wont beat the top 5
please don't edit this post to avoid future embarrassment B-)
His striking is chalked full of holes, he had trouble with getting jorge down and jorge doesnt exactly have the best grappling in the division and even on the ground he couldnt do anything

gsp beats him
as well as
rory
nick
big rig
condit
macdonald
maia
fitch
maybe ellenberger
maybe shields
etc

...Jorge is a very well respected black belt with no sub losses.....

Gunnar is also a very well respected grappler with a couple of pan am medals and he beat the likes of Monson.

edh1 · February 18

SteelerNation43 said:
His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)

He mounted Santiago ,a task Maia was EVEN unable to do,so his jitz is pretty nasty .Santiago has never been Subbed.Not to mention sandman is a natural middleweight ,and Gunnar could easily make lightweight, so size was a factor ,and he rocked the sandman pretty good ,so he has some punching power anyways .Have some patiance ,he's pretty good,and he's not scared to fight bigger guys,

Little_Kang · February 18

edh1 said:

SteelerNation43 said:
His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)
He mounted Santiago ,a task Maia was EVEN unable to do,so his jitz is pretty nasty .Santiago has never been Subbed.Not to mention sandman is a natural middleweight ,and Gunnar could easily make lightweight, so size was a factor ,and he rocked the sandman pretty good ,so he has some punching power anyways .Have some patiance ,he's pretty good,and he's not scared to fight bigger guys,

santiagos chin is well known to be questionable at best and his striking power isnt top. Jorge landed good shots on Gunnar and if that was from someone else gunnar could be asleep

spartacus_ · February 18

Little_Kang said:

santiagos chin is well known to be questionable at best and his striking power isnt top. Jorge landed good shots on Gunnar and if that was from someone else gunnar could be asleep

you are like those guys saying "anderson silva is horrible, if he stood against the cage against *insert fighter here* like he did to bonnar he would get KOd"

8-|

SteelerNation43 · February 18

Little_Kang said:

edh1 said:

SteelerNation43 said:
His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)
He mounted Santiago ,a task Maia was EVEN unable to do,so his jitz is pretty nasty .Santiago has never been Subbed.Not to mention sandman is a natural middleweight ,and Gunnar could easily make lightweight, so size was a factor ,and he rocked the sandman pretty good ,so he has some punching power anyways .Have some patiance ,he's pretty good,and he's not scared to fight bigger guys,
santiagos chin is well known to be questionable at best and his striking power isnt top. Jorge landed good shots on Gunnar and if that was from someone else gunnar could be asleep

Almost half of Jorge's wins are by KO....he's still decent.

and while he doesn't have the best chin...Gunnar is a grappler first. Its not an easy matchup when your facing another top level black belt bjj practitioner. I guarantee most of the strikers from here on out aren't gonna have a ground background like Santiago does.

PunchBag · February 18

i want to see riddle vs nelson and santiago vs mills

Yesterdays_Hero · February 18

EVERYONE in the UFC is above average. Gunnars only problem was walking straight back with his hands down and chin up. Besides that which should be an easy fix, I thought he looked solid.

spartacus_ · February 18

PunchBag said:
i want to see riddle vs nelson and santiago vs mills

i like it, gunnar will be the first man to submit riddle.

Gabri1985 · February 18

That punch santiago landed in the last few seconds of the fight rocked him pretty bad you could tell, another 20 seconds and Gunner would of been finished i think.

Little_Kang · February 18

SteelerNation43 said:

Little_Kang said:

edh1 said:

SteelerNation43 said:
His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)
He mounted Santiago ,a task Maia was EVEN unable to do,so his jitz is pretty nasty .Santiago has never been Subbed.Not to mention sandman is a natural middleweight ,and Gunnar could easily make lightweight, so size was a factor ,and he rocked the sandman pretty good ,so he has some punching power anyways .Have some patiance ,he's pretty good,and he's not scared to fight bigger guys,
santiagos chin is well known to be questionable at best and his striking power isnt top. Jorge landed good shots on Gunnar and if that was from someone else gunnar could be asleep
Almost half of Jorge's wins are by KO....he's still decent.

and while he doesn't have the best chin...Gunnar is a grappler first. Its not an easy matchup when your facing another top level black belt bjj practitioner. I guarantee most of the strikers from here on out aren't gonna have a ground background like Santiago does.

but a lot of welters have a good enough wrestling background and experience to stop Gunnars takedowns to keep it striking

GSP_over_Silva · February 18

I like him, but he's overrated.

PunchBag · February 18

Little_Kang said:

SteelerNation43 said:

Little_Kang said:

edh1 said:

SteelerNation43 said:
His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)
He mounted Santiago ,a task Maia was EVEN unable to do,so his jitz is pretty nasty .Santiago has never been Subbed.Not to mention sandman is a natural middleweight ,and Gunnar could easily make lightweight, so size was a factor ,and he rocked the sandman pretty good ,so he has some punching power anyways .Have some patiance ,he's pretty good,and he's not scared to fight bigger guys,
santiagos chin is well known to be questionable at best and his striking power isnt top. Jorge landed good shots on Gunnar and if that was from someone else gunnar could be asleep
Almost half of Jorge's wins are by KO....he's still decent.

and while he doesn't have the best chin...Gunnar is a grappler first. Its not an easy matchup when your facing another top level black belt bjj practitioner. I guarantee most of the strikers from here on out aren't gonna have a ground background like Santiago does.
but a lot of welters have a good enough wrestling background and experience to stop Gunnars takedowns to keep it striking

but not many of them have an elite striking background, kos? fitch? their striking is below gunnars, maybe ellenberger and hendricks would beat gunnar in a striking match, im pretty sure kampmann would and alves but can they avoid his takeown? but i think gunnar can cause problems for alot of guys on the feet

riddle is on a 4 fight win streak and i know gunnar could stop it.

andyd · February 18

PunchBag said:
i want to see riddle vs nelson and santiago vs mills

That's a great shout. I wanna see those two fights too.

I've no interest in seeing Riddle v Hardy. And let's see what Riddle is like in BJJ 'Deep Water'.

Little_Kang · February 18

PunchBag said:

Little_Kang said:

SteelerNation43 said:

Little_Kang said:

edh1 said:

SteelerNation43 said:
His striking may not be at that top level but the fact that its so unpredictable is a major plus....

As far as his ground game goes....its well ABOVE average. Prob some of the best jits in the division. Don't forget, Santiago is not a easy guy to submit (never lost via sub in his career.)
He mounted Santiago ,a task Maia was EVEN unable to do,so his jitz is pretty nasty .Santiago has never been Subbed.Not to mention sandman is a natural middleweight ,and Gunnar could easily make lightweight, so size was a factor ,and he rocked the sandman pretty good ,so he has some punching power anyways .Have some patiance ,he's pretty good,and he's not scared to fight bigger guys,
santiagos chin is well known to be questionable at best and his striking power isnt top. Jorge landed good shots on Gunnar and if that was from someone else gunnar could be asleep
Almost half of Jorge's wins are by KO....he's still decent.

and while he doesn't have the best chin...Gunnar is a grappler first. Its not an easy matchup when your facing another top level black belt bjj practitioner. I guarantee most of the strikers from here on out aren't gonna have a ground background like Santiago does.
but a lot of welters have a good enough wrestling background and experience to stop Gunnars takedowns to keep it striking
but not many of them have an elite striking background, kos? fitch? their striking is below gunnars, maybe ellenberger and hendricks would beat gunnar in a striking match, im pretty sure kampmann would and alves but can they avoid his takeown? but i think gunnar can cause problems for alot of guys on the feet

riddle is on a 4 fight win streak and i know gunnar could stop it.

I saw nothing in his striking to make me believe he would beat kos standing. Alves and Kampmann would stop his takedowns too and light him up standing.

and matt brown would stomp him good

creep_bb · February 18

Well , ww is so stacked right now... we'll see what's he made of after his first fight with the sharks in the division. I like him, his head movement isn't his strong point tho...

SteelerNation43 · February 18

Remember when Maia had a **** performance win against Santiago??

Now he's beaten 3 wrestlers straight in the WW division.

The only people who finish Jorge are known powerful strikers.

Just saying.

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