Possible reason Forrest Griffin lost the way he did to Anderson Silva

SilentDogood

if you didnt know Forrest griffin tested postive for Xanax in the post fight drug test against anderson,Xanax is taken for anxiety and panic disorders
and the advesre side effects of Xanax are concentration problems, Drowsiness, dizziness, light headedness, fatigue, unsteadiness and impaired coordination, vertigo

So Xanax could of messed him up for the fight

rtwil2007

Or Anderson is just better

Junglebird

Forrest could be on TRT and still get dominated like he did.

FellyBaby

this is old news, but i dont think the result would be much different if he wasnt on it

Frontline_Rioter

He took xanax the night before the fight because he was scared shitless of the fact that he was actually going to have to get in the cage with Anderson Silva. He couldn't sleep but xanax has a short half life. Gump wasn't popping xanax in the locker room warming up. He really is that slow and Anderson really is that much better than he is. Total mismatch just like all 3 of Anderson's light heavyweight bouts.

classicboxer

He took a dive. Bonnar hit him harder then Anderson.

Junglebird

classicboxer said:

He took a dive. Bonnar hit him harder then Anderson.

being a fan of boxing you are a pro at calling thrown fights and set ups

Mangasm

Forrest was going to lose anyways, the xanax is just a sad side note. The guy seems kinda depressed

spartacus_

possible reason why forrest griffin lost: anderson silva

sobercuban

spartacus_ said:

possible reason why forrest griffin lost: anderson silva

/thread

ShannonRitch1p4p

Anderson was on water for that fight, which is a PED.

classicboxer

Junglebird said:

classicboxer said:

He took a dive. Bonnar hit him harder then Anderson.

being a fan of boxing you are a pro at calling thrown fights and set ups

Correct, I'm used to seeing real punches.

zaksame

NOPE he is the most over rated fighter the UFC has ever had,the only one that comes close is his cohort in that same fight,>>>Bonnar.
When you throw two cans into a ring versus each other,of course you might get some action,it does NOT make either one a "good" fighter.

I wouldn't doubt Forrest was told that drug might help limit the lactic acid buildup,and the cramping,no matter,he took it for a reason,he wanted and NEEDED an edge.
The LAST thing anyone with common sense would do right before a fight is start popping drugs.However i do know many from the old days would pop speed/caffeine pills ,just dumb to even consider drugs.

I will break down Forrest.....
1 striking =below average
2 cardio= average
3 grappling =below average
4 mobility/athleticism=below average
5 Intagibles =below average
In other words he had no business ever being in the UFC,but i guess when you are in a very weak division,anything is possible,your bound to find other cans to fight.

Forrest is a sort of interesting funny guy ,he should have picked a different profession.,comedy,writer ect ect.

classicboxer

zaksame said:

NOPE he is the most over rated fighter the UFC has ever had,the only one that comes close is his cohort in that same fight,>>>Bonnar.
When you throw two cans into a ring versus each other,of course you might get some action,it does NOT make either one a "good" fighter.

I wouldn't doubt Forrest was told that drug might help limit the lactic acid buildup,and the cramping,no matter,he took it for a reason,he wanted and NEEDED an edge.
The LAST thing anyone with common sense would do right before a fight is start popping drugs.However i do know many from the old days would pop speed/caffeine pills ,just dumb to even consider drugs.

I will break down Forrest.....
1 striking =below average
2 cardio= average
3 grappling =below average
4 mobility/athleticism=below average
5 Intagibles =below average
In other words he had no business ever being in the UFC,but i guess when you are in a very weak division,anything is possible,your bound to find other cans to fight.

Forrest is a sort of interesting funny guy ,he should have picked a different profession.,comedy,writer ect ect.

I had heard that he took a broken arm over tapping. That shows heart. Maybe as he got older and wiser he changed.

KOOKORK

zaksame said:

NOPE he is the most over rated fighter the UFC has ever had,the only one that comes close is his cohort in that same fight,>>>Bonnar.

I will break down Forrest.....
1 striking =below average
2 cardio= average
3 grappling =below average
4 mobility/athleticism=below average
5 Intagibles =below average
In other words he had no business ever being in the UFC,but i guess when you are in a very weak division,anything is possible,your bound to find other cans to fight.

Forrest is a sort of interesting funny guy ,he should have picked a different profession.,comedy,writer ect ect.

Your break down = Below average
Your Troll rate = Way above average

Cole1186

SilentDogood said:

if you didnt know Forrest griffin tested postive for Xanax in the post fight drug test against anderson,Xanax is taken for anxiety and panic disorders
and the advesre side effects of Xanax are concentration problems, Drowsiness, dizziness, light headedness, fatigue, unsteadiness and impaired coordination, vertigo

So Xanax could of messed him up for the fight

shut the **** up

SilentDogood

@zaksame
yet he beat your favorite fighters rampage jackson and shogun rua

idrankyourbeer

if i knew i had to fight anderson silva i would have to take all the drugs in the world in preperation for the **** kicking forthcoming to me.

Tahune

Is this thread just a poor attempt to start arguments on a public forum?

If I wanted to get bites on the "ole troll pole" and fire people up I'd create a generic post about Silva fighting cans or some ****.

idrankyourbeer

Brock p4p usually works good too

classicboxer

Tahune said:

Is this thread just a poor attempt to start arguments on a public forum?

If I wanted to get bites on the "ole troll pole" and fire people up I'd create a generic post about Silva fighting cans or some ****.

Isn't that the purpose of the forum?

carnages41

or it could be that Forrest is a ****ing can

Sisti

A couple reasons that fight went the way it did

1. Anderson Silva really is that good...we've seen him dominate guys and we know one thing he is extremely good at is finishing very well. Look at Vitor, for example, he is another guy whose specialty is finishing quickly. In 11 UFC wins, Vitor finished 10 fights in the 1st and his WORST finish ever was a 2nd round TKO of Bisping. So Silva's specialty is finishing impressively and quickly, and the Forrest fight was a great example of how he finishes impressively

2. Forrest is a bit overrated. Forrest was only champ because of a controversial win over Rampage, which some people say he actually lost. We now know that Rampage is really not a top-tier fighter, and Forrest lost convincingly once he fought Rashad who is a much more legit fighter than Rampage

3. Forrest was nervous. Forrest had incredible heart and he had a lot to lose with the Silva fight. Forrest had an amazing reputation of standing up to anyone, and when someone has something to lose that is when they are the most nervous. Think about that for a minute. When a guy on a 8-fight losing streak enters the cage, the fear of a loss is not overwhelming to them because they already have a bad reputation and it won't change much. When a guy like Forrest steps into the cage with Silva, he has a lot to lose because everyone always talked about how he never backed up from a fight and how he has more heart than any other fighter. He panicked and took xanax and was definitely nervous...he made a decision after Silva hit him to not keep fighting forward, and in the heat of the moment, we all have made stupid decisions at some point in our life. These guys are human like anyone else and have fear that sometimes come over them. I'm sure it's easy for us to sit here and say we would never get nervous, but I'm sure if we were like Forrest with that much to lose and were about to fight Silva, we might get nervous and fight stupid too.

The reason Silva is doing so much better in the UFC than in PRIDE is because a lot of fighters lose before they even fight. Chael did so well because he was the only guy who actually stood up to Silva and didn't psych himself out.

najma

rtwil2007 said:

Or Anderson is just better

Irrelevant to the topic at hand.

horrorfan663

SilentDogood said:

if you didnt know Forrest griffin tested postive for Xanax in the post fight drug test against anderson,Xanax is taken for anxiety and panic disorders
and the advesre side effects of Xanax are concentration problems, Drowsiness, dizziness, light headedness, fatigue, unsteadiness and impaired coordination, vertigo

So Xanax could of messed him up for the fight

Forrest Griffin defeated Forrest Griffin that night

since he lost the belt, it crushed him mentally. He resorted to drug abuse and thus, lost the "way of the samurai" mentality.
I truly believe that a Forrest Griffin who believes in himself can still be a top contender. I would love for nothing more than to see Forrest get his **** back together. 2007/2008 were the best years of his fighting career and he just needs to go back and find his inner strength again.

sobercuban

LOL ... Xanax has a pretty **** short halflife ... he must have taken quite a bit for it to still affect his in-cage performance if he took it the night before.

Sisti

horrorfan663 said:

SilentDogood said:

if you didnt know Forrest griffin tested postive for Xanax in the post fight drug test against anderson,Xanax is taken for anxiety and panic disorders
and the advesre side effects of Xanax are concentration problems, Drowsiness, dizziness, light headedness, fatigue, unsteadiness and impaired coordination, vertigo

So Xanax could of messed him up for the fight

Forrest Griffin defeated Forrest Griffin that night

since he lost the belt, it crushed him mentally. He resorted to drug abuse and thus, lost the "way of the samurai" mentality.
I truly believe that a Forrest Griffin who believes in himself can still be a top contender. I would love for nothing more than to see Forrest get his **** back together. 2007/2008 were the best years of his fighting career and he just needs to go back and find his inner strength again.

kinda sad to see all the heroes and fan favorites go down the way they do. the problem is that MMA was so new that every few years the new guys much outclass the old. Liddell, Forrest, even GSP because of the over-emphasis on his safe fighting, etc. all kind of lost their glory they once had. Fedor is the only guy who was able to somewhat get his rep back once it was busted by stringing together 3 decisive wins before he retired.

i would love to see forrest start making a run at a title again, and i think he just needs to put the silva fight behind him and look forward

horrorfan663

Sisti said:

horrorfan663 said:

SilentDogood said:

if you didnt know Forrest griffin tested postive for Xanax in the post fight drug test against anderson,Xanax is taken for anxiety and panic disorders
and the advesre side effects of Xanax are concentration problems, Drowsiness, dizziness, light headedness, fatigue, unsteadiness and impaired coordination, vertigo

So Xanax could of messed him up for the fight

Forrest Griffin defeated Forrest Griffin that night

since he lost the belt, it crushed him mentally. He resorted to drug abuse and thus, lost the "way of the samurai" mentality.
I truly believe that a Forrest Griffin who believes in himself can still be a top contender. I would love for nothing more than to see Forrest get his **** back together. 2007/2008 were the best years of his fighting career and he just needs to go back and find his inner strength again.

kinda sad to see all the heroes and fan favorites go down the way they do. the problem is that MMA was so new that every few years the new guys much outclass the old. Liddell, Forrest, even GSP because of the over-emphasis on his safe fighting, etc. all kind of lost their glory they once had. Fedor is the only guy who was able to somewhat get his rep back once it was busted by stringing together 3 decisive wins before he retired.

i would love to see forrest start making a run at a title again, and i think he just needs to put the silva fight behind him and look forward

Yea definitely, Forrest looked impressive in his win against Rich Franklin, even though he didn't do too much damage he implemented a Gameplan and stuck with it to get the win. Would love to see Forrest Griffin fight Matt Hamill or Lil Nog next

najma

najma said:

rtwil2007 said:

Or Anderson is just better

Irrelevant to the topic at hand.

OMG, some moron disagreed with me.

Anderson being better than Forrest explains why he beat him, but it DOES NOT explain why he beat him "THE WAY HE DID". And THIS IS the point of the discussion.
Think, kids, think.

ThePack19

I can kind of see it play out like that. Seriously........Anderson threw itty bitty jabs at Griffin and he fell three times, all from itty bitty jabs.....really?!? We know Griffin has taken much harder shots than that. Now........I still believe Anderson would have still beaten him anyways.

UDONNO

He lost that way because Anderson BEAT the CRAP out of him, and is a different class of fighter than Forrest.....no other reason.