Massive fighters cut will lead to "safe fights"

spartacus_

i'm worried about it. 6 out of 12 losers from last event got cut. everyone will be worried now, and they know they won't be cut after a win.

hope i'm wrong, though.

carnages41

Only fellow Spartacans will get cut

Junglebird

Fighters get screwed. Try to be exciting and lose, risk getting cut.

Use a boring strategy to win, get on bad side of ***hole Dana and his sensitive **** sphincter.

Feel bad for some of these guys. Che mill for example, trying to make the riddle fight exciting, but loses and gets cut.

Would be nice if the UFC stayed consistent with their cutting policies so fighters know what to expect. With this kind of horse**** cuts.

Gonna be even more of a 'win at all costs' mantality

spartacus_

Junglebird said:

Fighters get screwed. Try to be exciting and lose, risk getting cut.

Use a boring strategy to win, get on bad side of ***hole Dana and his sensitive **** sphincter.

Feel bad for some of these guys. Che mill for example, trying to make the riddle fight exciting, but loses and gets cut.

Would be nice if the UFC stayed consistent with their cutting policies so fighters know what to expect. With this kind of horse**** cuts.

Gonna be even more of a 'win at all costs' mantality

yeah that's my point, i think this will ruin many possible wars

TheOvereem

spartacus_ said:

yeah that's my point, i think this will ruin many possible wars

But look at Leonard Garcia and Dan Hardy for example, they're still around

KOOKORK

TheOvereem said:

spartacus_ said:

yeah that's my point, i think this will ruin many possible wars

But look at Leonard Garcia and Dan Hardy for example, they're still around

Great Point. I think the general consensus is that if you either win excitingly or lose excitingly you wont be cut. Many of the fans including me want to watch exciting back and forth fights which very rarely happens when one fighters relies on GnP or wrestling. Garcia and Hardy are prime example of win or lose beautifully.

JohnnyZadar

KOOKORK said:

TheOvereem said:

spartacus_ said:

yeah that's my point, i think this will ruin many possible wars

But look at Leonard Garcia and Dan Hardy for example, they're still around

Great Point. I think the general consensus is that if you either win excitingly or lose excitingly you wont be cut. Many of the fans including me want to watch exciting back and forth fights which very rarely happens when one fighters relies on GnP or wrestling. Garcia and Hardy are prime example of win or lose beautifully.

KOOK SERIOUSLY...ARE YOU JOEY SILVA? :))

GSP_over_Silva

CarnGOAT is right, Spartacan_.

Frontline_Rioter

KOOKORK said:

TheOvereem said:

spartacus_ said:

yeah that's my point, i think this will ruin many possible wars

But look at Leonard Garcia and Dan Hardy for example, they're still around

Great Point. I think the general consensus is that if you either win excitingly or lose excitingly you wont be cut. Many of the fans including me want to watch exciting back and forth fights which very rarely happens when one fighters relies on GnP or wrestling. Garcia and Hardy are prime example of win or lose beautifully.

As Yesterdays Hero stated Leonard goes out there and embarrasses himself every time just for the fans... due to lack of skill but whatever. Not a single legitimate win since Jens Pulver in 2008... not ONE!

Leonard's real record. 11-15... they wouldn't even let this scrub on a season of TUF let alone a Bellator featherweight tournament. Yet he still has a job in the number 1 promotion.

Mind=Blown

AJ_Bearcat

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

KOOKORK

JohnnyZadar said:

KOOKORK said:

TheOvereem said:

spartacus_ said:

yeah that's my point, i think this will ruin many possible wars

But look at Leonard Garcia and Dan Hardy for example, they're still around

Great Point. I think the general consensus is that if you either win excitingly or lose excitingly you wont be cut. Many of the fans including me want to watch exciting back and forth fights which very rarely happens when one fighters relies on GnP or wrestling. Garcia and Hardy are prime example of win or lose beautifully.

KOOK SERIOUSLY...ARE YOU JOEY SILVA? :))

I don't know about you but personally I am bored of having too many Silva in the whole UFC .

:D

JDS_over_REEM

Fitch and Volkmann both gone. I didn't see too many exciting fan favorites on that recent list.

GSP_over_Silva

@Spartacus_ why'd you flag me, bro. You know I love you. =((

Yesterdays_Hero

AJ_Bearcat said:

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

GSP is gone

Gobbo

JDS_over_REEM said:

Fitch and Volkmann both gone. I didn't see too many exciting fan favorites on that recent list.

Glad about Volk, but Fitch shouldn't have been cut. He changed his style (supposedly) to become more entertaining and his fight with Silva was entertaining. Despite his loss to Maia he was still a top 10 WW in my opinion and should have been given another fight against lower competition to see if his new style was a fluke or if he was working towards a more fan friendly style.

NyteRyder

It's even funnier because Dana was just saying he felt bad for what happened to the Strikeforce fighters and how they were treated and was "glad" they were coming over. LOL. Now he's cutting people after just one loss (Volkmann for example). I'm sure the 100 fighters to be released in 2013 is gonna make everyone feel real good and fight even better...geez.

PunchBag

lol by end of 2013 i bet more than half those same strikeforce fighters are cut.

zaksame

Junglebird said:

Fighters get screwed. Try to be exciting and lose, risk getting cut.

Use a boring strategy to win, get on bad side of ***hole Dana and his sensitive EGO !

Feel bad for some of these guys. Che mill for example, trying to make the riddle fight exciting, but loses and gets cut.

Would be nice if the UFC stayed consistent with their cutting policies so fighters know what to expect. With this kind of horse**** cuts.

Gonna be even more of a 'win at all costs' mantality

Lessen to be learned,don't believe a single word Dana says !
He wants exciting fights to make money,he doesn't give two cahoots about any of these fighters.You think when he goes backstage with his kids at concert venues ,he is like "Oh btw,we have JDS and GSP".?No he is like,these are my two awesome kids and i am a special rich PRESIDENT of the UFC."I made that business what it is,those fighters were nothing without me".That is more in line with Dana's ego.

Remember how he was all bad mouthing Big Country for wanting his guys to win,i guess Dana looks like the **** now ,since he was just being two faced,the reality is exciting does not keep food on your table.

Dana spends more of the fighters money on JET FUEL than what they pay some of these guys to fight.Does he really want to BS us some more with his "what guys to need to understand" speeches?

spartacus_

AJ_Bearcat said:

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

Che Mills?

Banutu

boring fighters will be out, if a guy will swing with everything he got even risking getting ktfo and entertain that drunk crowd he will get to stay.

andyd

spartacus_ said:

AJ_Bearcat said:

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

Che Mills?

Dana specially said that Che wasn't attacking off his back and was just lying there during the fight. And with 30 seconds of the 3rd round left the ref stood them both up and Che didn't nothing. TBF to Dana, Che should of gone for it, thrown a flying knee or do something to try and win the fight. That's why Che got cut.

I think it's a warning to any safe or unexciting fighters. You may be safe if you win boring, but your card is marked as soon as you lose and you get cut.

Although I think the cuts were particularly harsh on Etim and Sass who certainly aren't boring or safe. But that probably has more to do with all the extra Strikeforce fighters that came over.

wedo619

white stated if you're exiting take risk and leave all out there you will not be cut i.e. pat barry dan hardy

wedo619

i think anyone that fights safe will be cut after they lose.....poor riddle and kjnoons

waikru

andyd said:

spartacus_ said:

AJ_Bearcat said:

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

Che Mills?

Dana specially said that Che wasn't attacking off his back and was just lying there during the fight. And with 30 seconds of the 3rd round left the ref stood them both up and Che didn't nothing. TBF to Dana, Che should of gone for it, thrown a flying knee or do something to try and win the fight. That's why Che got cut.

I think it's a warning to any safe or unexciting fighters. You may be safe if you win boring, but your card is marked as soon as you lose and you get cut.

Although I think the cuts were particularly harsh on Etim and Sass who certainly aren't boring or safe. But that probably has more to do with all the extra Strikeforce fighters that came over.

There is many fighters like Hardy who have lost a multitude of times but have maintained their jobs becaue they put it all on the line. I think the real message here is that wins may keep you in the UFC, but exciting fights will keep you in the UFC regarless of whether you win or lose.

HappyFeet

spartacus_ said:

i'm worried about it. 6 out of 12 losers from last event got cut. everyone will be worried now, and they know they won't be cut after a win.

hope i'm wrong, though.

It's the only logical outcome. Everyone's gonna be scared to lose their job, so they're all gonna try to not lose.

Little_Kang

They need the Pridefc concept. So long as you have exciting wins or losses that you are kept. Look how long Ahkira Shoji lasted lol. It was because he was willing to fight the Semmy Schilts out there lol

classicboxer

It's idiotic to keep losers, no matter how they fight.

PunchBag

andyd said:

spartacus_ said:

AJ_Bearcat said:

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

Che Mills?

Dana specially said that Che wasn't attacking off his back and was just lying there during the fight. And with 30 seconds of the 3rd round left the ref stood them both up and Che didn't nothing. TBF to Dana, Che should of gone for it, thrown a flying knee or do something to try and win the fight. That's why Che got cut.

I think it's a warning to any safe or unexciting fighters. You may be safe if you win boring, but your card is marked as soon as you lose and you get cut.

Although I think the cuts were particularly harsh on Etim and Sass who certainly aren't boring or safe. But that probably has more to do with all the extra Strikeforce fighters that came over.

che has the ability to put on exiciting fights, but like pat barry it will only happen with good matchmaking, riddle had the skills to make the fight exciting but he also had the wrestling to make it boring, joe silva must have known this possible outcome and im sure mills would beat a lot of the stand up fighters in ww division.

juice64011

andyd said:

spartacus_ said:

AJ_Bearcat said:

Wrong title..."Safe Fights Will Lead to Massive Fighter Cuts"

Imo.

Che Mills?

Dana specially said that Che wasn't attacking off his back and was just lying there during the fight. And with 30 seconds of the 3rd round left the ref stood them both up and Che didn't nothing. TBF to Dana, Che should of gone for it, thrown a flying knee or do something to try and win the fight. That's why Che got cut.

I think it's a warning to any safe or unexciting fighters. You may be safe if you win boring, but your card is marked as soon as you lose and you get cut.

Although I think the cuts were particularly harsh on Etim and Sass who certainly aren't boring or safe. But that probably has more to do with all the extra Strikeforce fighters that came over.

Sass is young still so I would guess that after losing 2 in a row that Dana is thinking that letting him go elsewhere is what is best for him. In a smaller promotion he can fight more often so he can gain experience faster and get his confidence back. He could be back in 2 years with 8 more fights on his record and only 26 years old.

waikru

classicboxer said:

It's idiotic to keep losers, no matter how they fight.

I agree with your premise. However, if the fighter was "exciting", then this generally means that it was also competetive. I think it appropriate to keep competetive fighters versus ones that lose in lopsided loses.

Omoplataypus

So when is Clay Guida going to get cut?