How to Stay Relevant in UFC For Dummies :

KOOKORK

Reading all the different threads and posts about recent considerable cut of different UFC fighters I started to think about how a fighter can stay relevant in UFC ( Which is fundamentally a business) and I came to a few conclusions about different ways a fighter can stay in this business for a long time:

1- By being dominant in the division: Anderson Silva, GSP, Jon Jones, Aldo and recently Cain

2- By making entertaining fights irrespective of the result: Dan Hardy,Leonard Garcia who have more loss than win but at the end of the day they are entertaining to some extent.

3- By making plenty of Money or bringing extra hype for the Organization : Brock Lesnar( coming from WWE which brought some fans from WWE to UFC), Chael Sonnen( a master of self promotion of his fights via the cheapest method which is trash talk) and recently Alistair Overeem

4-By Originating from a country which has good potentials to be the next big target for UFC and MMA overall( Akiyama from Japan) who brought attention to UFC from his mother land. ( China, India are the next potential targets)
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5- Bringing a very special style of fighting which is kind of unique ( Kung Lee comes to mind and to some extent Pat Barry)

6- Being TUF winner : For some reasons being a TUF winner brings some sort of immunity for the fighter.

7- Knowing how to keep Uncle Dana happy or knowing the weak side and stick side of Dana White.

8- Mastering how to Jump from One division to the other when the grass seems greener on the other side of the fence( Dan Henderson for a long time, Frankie Edgar recently)

9- Name yourself Clay Guida if you have none of the before mentioned characteristic and you will be safe.

What do you think I have missed:

Bandura

you missed spelling Cung Le right,

and does TUF still matter?

WarWest

GSP isn't dominant in his division.
GSP doesn't make entertaining fights.
GSP brings no hype to the organization.
GSP doesn't bring a very special type of fighting.
GSP is not a TUF winner.
GSP doesn't jump any divisions unless you consider "jumping divisions" fighting guys a weightclass below yours in your weightclass.
GSP didn't name himself Clay Guida.

How the **** is this dude still in the UFC!?

KOOKORK

Bandura said:

you missed spelling Cung Le right,

and does TUF still matter?

thanks for spell correction and your attention.

Name a TUF Winner who is out of UFC and I name dozens who are in despite their not so great performances. It seems TUF still matters.

KOOKORK

WarWest said:

GSP isn't dominant in his division.
GSP doesn't make entertaining fights.
GSP brings no hype to the organization.
GSP doesn't bring a very special type of fighting.
GSP is not a TUF winner.
GSP doesn't jump any divisions unless you consider "jumping divisions" fighting guys a weightclass below yours in your weightclass.
GSP didn't name himself Clay Guida.

How the **** is this dude still in the UFC!?

He makes tons of money in PPV . That is how. Money making is no 1 reason you may stay relevant . Don't you agree?

WarWest

KOOKORK said:

Bandura said:

you missed spelling Cung Le right,

and does TUF still matter?

thanks for spell correction and your attention.

Name a TUF Winner who is out of UFC and I name dozens who are in despite their not so great performances. It seems TUF still matters.

Joe Stevenson

KOOKORK

Forrest/Bonnar/Sanchez/Roy Nelson( he is in because he is good though )/Bader/Rashad/Bisping/Court McGee/Amir sadollah/Tony Ferguson/Diego Brandao/Mac Danzig

Bandura

"GSP isn't dominant in his division."

Really?

waikru

Bandura said:

"GSP isn't dominant in his division."

Really?

Gaining superior position and stalling for five rounds is not dominant, its referred to as point fighting. There is a difference.

Bandura

waikru said:

Bandura said:

"GSP isn't dominant in his division."

Really?

Gaining superior position and stalling for five rounds is not dominant, its referred to as point fighting. There is a difference.

Show me a resume that's even close to that. and unlike Diaz, every one one of them deserved a title shot

Dark_Horse

I suppose GSP does attract gays to the UFC audience.

waikru

Bandura said:

waikru said:

Bandura said:

"GSP isn't dominant in his division."

Really?


Gaining superior position and stalling for five rounds is not dominant, its referred to as point fighting. There is a difference.

Show me a resume that's even close to that. and unlike Diaz, every one one of them deserved a title shot

Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights.

carnages41

If fights were pictures GSP would be P4P!

Bandura

"Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

Not with those fighters they couldn't.

Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

I'm not even a GSP fan.

carnages41

Bandura said:

"Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

Not with those fighters they couldn't.

Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

I'm not even a GSP fan.

Can you give me video evidence?

k thanx

waikru

Bandura lets look at the last four fights of these great fighters hes been fighting.

Shields 1-2-0-1
Koscheck 2-2
Fitch 1-2-1
Alves 2-2
Penn 1-2-1
Hardy 2-2

Pretty impressive

Bandura

carnages41 said:

Bandura said:

"Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

Not with those fighters they couldn't.

Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

I'm not even a GSP fan.

Can you give me video evidence?

k thanx

Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.

waikru

Bandura said:

carnages41 said:

Bandura said:

"Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

Not with those fighters they couldn't.

Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

I'm not even a GSP fan.

Can you give me video evidence?

k thanx

Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.

Once again, you can also create an illusion that a fighter is active by piecing together and replaying a few exciting seconds from twenty plus fights.

waikru

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638770-ufc-129-why-it-doesnt-matter-that-gsp-is-mmas-most-boring-champion

This article explains it all Bandura.

Bandura

waikru said:

Bandura said:

carnages41 said:

Bandura said:

"Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

Not with those fighters they couldn't.

Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

I'm not even a GSP fan.

Can you give me video evidence?

k thanx

Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.

Once again, you can also create an illusion that a fighter is active by piecing together and replaying a few exciting seconds from twenty plus fights.

Not with those fighters they couldn't

waikru said:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638770-ufc-129-why-it-doesnt-matter-that-gsp-is-mmas-most-boring-champion

This article explains it all Bandura.

That article explains someone's P***ed off that GSP doesn't use his Karate like he used to. But, GSP dominates. Since Serra, no one has come close to beating GSP other than the Condit head kick, which GSP reponded to by standing up, throwing a combo in his face and then slamming him into the mat.

That's dominant. And not appreciating that makes you about a half-step ahead of the guy that asked me if Brock was still the HW champ five months after he retired.

Bandura

waikru said:

Bandura lets look at the last four fights of these great fighters hes been fighting.

Shields 1-2-0-1
Koscheck 2-2
Fitch 1-2-1
Alves 2-2
Penn 1-2-1
Hardy 2-2

Pretty impressive

wrong weight class (also beat Hendo)
old
bad luck then out muscled
mentally broken by GSP
Lazy
Hardy sucks, give you that.

waikru

Bandura said:

waikru said:

Bandura said:

carnages41 said:

Bandura said:

"Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

Not with those fighters they couldn't.

Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

I'm not even a GSP fan.

Can you give me video evidence?

k thanx

Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.

Once again, you can also create an illusion that a fighter is active by piecing together and replaying a few exciting seconds from twenty plus fights.

Not with those fighters they couldn't

waikru said:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638770-ufc-129-why-it-doesnt-matter-that-gsp-is-mmas-most-boring-champion

This article explains it all Bandura.

That article explains someone's P***ed off that GSP doesn't use his Karate like he used to. But, GSP dominates. Since Serra, no one has come close to beating GSP other than the Condit head kick, which GSP reponded to by standing up, throwing a combo in his face and then slamming him into the mat.

That's dominant. And not appreciating that makes you about a half-step ahead of the guy that asked me if Brock was still the HW champ five months after he retired.

Shields won rounds four and five and out struck GSP in that fight. If the fight was not scored on a round by round basis, GSP would have lost. And once again, winning rounds by positional control is not dominance.

waikru

Bandura said:

waikru said:

Bandura lets look at the last four fights of these great fighters hes been fighting.

Shields 1-2-0-1
Koscheck 2-2
Fitch 1-2-1
Alves 2-2
Penn 1-2-1
Hardy 2-2

Pretty impressive

wrong weight class (also beat Hendo)
old
bad luck then out muscled
mentally broken by GSP
Lazy
Hardy sucks, give you that.

The point is that all of the people he fought pretty much sucked.

Bandura

Stop. Just Stop.

Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

Who won Aldo/Edgar?

And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

waikru

Bandura said:

Stop. Just Stop.

Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

Who won Aldo/Edgar?

And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

He landed more strikes than GSP in that fight. If the fight was judged as a whole (like they did in Pride), he would have lost. Aldo outstruck Edgar, so that argument is not even relevant.

Bandura

waikru said:

Bandura said:

Stop. Just Stop.

Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

Who won Aldo/Edgar?

And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

He landed more strikes than GSP in that fight. If the fight was judged as a whole (like they did in Pride), he would have lost. Aldo outstruck Edgar, so that argument is not even relevant.

Nah

WarWest

KOOKORK said:

WarWest said:

GSP isn't dominant in his division.
GSP doesn't make entertaining fights.
GSP brings no hype to the organization.
GSP doesn't bring a very special type of fighting.
GSP is not a TUF winner.
GSP doesn't jump any divisions unless you consider "jumping divisions" fighting guys a weightclass below yours in your weightclass.
GSP didn't name himself Clay Guida.

How the **** is this dude still in the UFC!?

He makes tons of money in PPV . That is how. Money making is no 1 reason you may stay relevant . Don't you agree?

The super stacked cards that he is on make tons of money in PPV

WarWest

Bandura said:

"GSP isn't dominant in his division."

Really?

Yes

Really

waikru

Bandura said:

waikru said:

Bandura said:

Stop. Just Stop.

Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

Who won Aldo/Edgar?

And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

He landed more strikes than GSP in that fight. If the fight was judged as a whole (like they did in Pride), he would have lost. Aldo outstruck Edgar, so that argument is not even relevant.

Nah

Check Fight Metrics.

WarWest

Bandura said:

Stop. Just Stop.

Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

Who won Aldo/Edgar?

And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!! ^^^

Bandura

WarWest said:

Bandura said:

Stop. Just Stop.

Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

Who won Aldo/Edgar?

And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!! ^^^

Yawn, I'm done. See ya tommorow.