How to Stay Relevant in UFC For Dummies :

KOOKORKKOOKORK Posts: 778Free
Reading all the different threads and posts about recent considerable cut of different UFC fighters I started to think about how a fighter can stay relevant in UFC ( Which is fundamentally a business) and I came to a few conclusions about different ways a fighter can stay in this business for a long time:

1- By being dominant in the division: Anderson Silva, GSP, Jon Jones, Aldo and recently Cain

2- By making entertaining fights irrespective of the result: Dan Hardy,Leonard Garcia who have more loss than win but at the end of the day they are entertaining to some extent.

3- By making plenty of Money or bringing extra hype for the Organization : Brock Lesnar( coming from WWE which brought some fans from WWE to UFC), Chael Sonnen( a master of self promotion of his fights via the cheapest method which is trash talk) and recently Alistair Overeem

4-By Originating from a country which has good potentials to be the next big target for UFC and MMA overall( Akiyama from Japan) who brought attention to UFC from his mother land. ( China, India are the next potential targets)
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5- Bringing a very special style of fighting which is kind of unique ( Kung Lee comes to mind and to some extent Pat Barry)

6- Being TUF winner : For some reasons being a TUF winner brings some sort of immunity for the fighter.

7- Knowing how to keep Uncle Dana happy or knowing the weak side and stick side of Dana White.

8- Mastering how to Jump from One division to the other when the grass seems greener on the other side of the fence( Dan Henderson for a long time, Frankie Edgar recently)

9- Name yourself Clay Guida if you have none of the before mentioned characteristic and you will be safe.

What do you think I have missed:
It is not about win or lose, it is about heart. Leave all you have in the Octagon and you are a winner in my book.
JDS, Machida,Sam stout,Bermudez, Dustin Kimura,Roger Huerta
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  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    you missed spelling Cung Le right,

    and does TUF still matter?
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,707Free
    edited February 2013
    GSP isn't dominant in his division.
    GSP doesn't make entertaining fights.
    GSP brings no hype to the organization.
    GSP doesn't bring a very special type of fighting.
    GSP is not a TUF winner.
    GSP doesn't jump any divisions unless you consider "jumping divisions" fighting guys a weightclass below yours in your weightclass.
    GSP didn't name himself Clay Guida.

    How the **** is this dude still in the UFC!?
    Post edited by WarWest on
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  • KOOKORKKOOKORK Posts: 778Free
    Bandura said:

    you missed spelling Cung Le right,

    and does TUF still matter?

    thanks for spell correction and your attention.

    Name a TUF Winner who is out of UFC and I name dozens who are in despite their not so great performances. It seems TUF still matters.

    It is not about win or lose, it is about heart. Leave all you have in the Octagon and you are a winner in my book.
    JDS, Machida,Sam stout,Bermudez, Dustin Kimura,Roger Huerta
  • KOOKORKKOOKORK Posts: 778Free
    WarWest said:

    GSP isn't dominant in his division.
    GSP doesn't make entertaining fights.
    GSP brings no hype to the organization.
    GSP doesn't bring a very special type of fighting.
    GSP is not a TUF winner.
    GSP doesn't jump any divisions unless you consider "jumping divisions" fighting guys a weightclass below yours in your weightclass.
    GSP didn't name himself Clay Guida.

    How the **** is this dude still in the UFC!?


    He makes tons of money in PPV . That is how. Money making is no 1 reason you may stay relevant . Don't you agree?
    It is not about win or lose, it is about heart. Leave all you have in the Octagon and you are a winner in my book.
    JDS, Machida,Sam stout,Bermudez, Dustin Kimura,Roger Huerta
  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,707Free
    KOOKORK said:

    Bandura said:

    you missed spelling Cung Le right,

    and does TUF still matter?

    thanks for spell correction and your attention.

    Name a TUF Winner who is out of UFC and I name dozens who are in despite their not so great performances. It seems TUF still matters.

    Joe Stevenson
    The Cal Ripken Of GSP hatin'
    Arch Bishop Of Anti-GSP
    The Stockton Hater
    209's So Fine
  • KOOKORKKOOKORK Posts: 778Free
    Forrest/Bonnar/Sanchez/Roy Nelson( he is in because he is good though )/Bader/Rashad/Bisping/Court McGee/Amir sadollah/Tony Ferguson/Diego Brandao/Mac Danzig
    It is not about win or lose, it is about heart. Leave all you have in the Octagon and you are a winner in my book.
    JDS, Machida,Sam stout,Bermudez, Dustin Kimura,Roger Huerta
  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    edited February 2013
    "GSP isn't dominant in his division."

    Really?

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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura said:

    "GSP isn't dominant in his division."

    Really?

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    Gaining superior position and stalling for five rounds is not dominant, its referred to as point fighting. There is a difference.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

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  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    waikru said:

    Bandura said:

    "GSP isn't dominant in his division."

    Really?

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    Gaining superior position and stalling for five rounds is not dominant, its referred to as point fighting. There is a difference.
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    Show me a resume that's even close to that. and unlike Diaz, every one one of them deserved a title shot
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  • Dark_HorseDark_Horse Posts: 2,035Free
    I suppose GSP does attract gays to the UFC audience.
    Happy in his folly, the fool embraces the Devil.
  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura said:



    waikru said:

    Bandura said:

    "GSP isn't dominant in his division."

    Really?


    Gaining superior position and stalling for five rounds is not dominant, its referred to as point fighting. There is a difference.


    Show me a resume that's even close to that. and unlike Diaz, every one one of them deserved a title shot
    Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

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  • carnages41carnages41 Posts: 36,240Free
    If fights were pictures GSP would be P4P!
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  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    edited February 2013


    "Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

    Not with those fighters they couldn't.

    Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

    I'm not even a GSP fan.
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  • carnages41carnages41 Posts: 36,240Free
    Bandura said:



    "Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

    Not with those fighters they couldn't.

    Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

    I'm not even a GSP fan.

    Can you give me video evidence?

    k thanx
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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura lets look at the last four fights of these great fighters hes been fighting.

    Shields 1-2-0-1
    Koscheck 2-2
    Fitch 1-2-1
    Alves 2-2
    Penn 1-2-1
    Hardy 2-2

    Pretty impressive
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

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  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free

    Bandura said:



    "Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

    Not with those fighters they couldn't.

    Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

    I'm not even a GSP fan.

    Can you give me video evidence?

    k thanx


    Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.
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    All hail the Dark sith ruler, Darth Shubeous!
  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura said:

    Bandura said:



    "Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

    Not with those fighters they couldn't.

    Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

    I'm not even a GSP fan.

    Can you give me video evidence?

    k thanx


    Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.
    Once again, you can also create an illusion that a fighter is active by piecing together and replaying a few exciting seconds from twenty plus fights.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

    image
  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    waikru said:

    Bandura said:

    Bandura said:



    "Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

    Not with those fighters they couldn't.

    Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

    I'm not even a GSP fan.

    Can you give me video evidence?

    k thanx


    Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.
    Once again, you can also create an illusion that a fighter is active by piecing together and replaying a few exciting seconds from twenty plus fights.
    Not with those fighters they couldn't
    waikru said:
    That article explains someone's P***ed off that GSP doesn't use his Karate like he used to. But, GSP dominates. Since Serra, no one has come close to beating GSP other than the Condit head kick, which GSP reponded to by standing up, throwing a combo in his face and then slamming him into the mat.

    That's dominant. And not appreciating that makes you about a half-step ahead of the guy that asked me if Brock was still the HW champ five months after he retired.
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    All hail the Dark sith ruler, Darth Shubeous!
  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    edited February 2013
    waikru said:

    Bandura lets look at the last four fights of these great fighters hes been fighting.

    Shields 1-2-0-1
    Koscheck 2-2
    Fitch 1-2-1
    Alves 2-2
    Penn 1-2-1
    Hardy 2-2

    Pretty impressive

    wrong weight class (also beat Hendo)
    old
    bad luck then out muscled
    mentally broken by GSP
    Lazy
    Hardy sucks, give you that.
    Post edited by Bandura on
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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura said:

    waikru said:

    Bandura said:

    Bandura said:



    "Anybody can show a couple of pictures to create an illusion that a guy actually fights"

    Not with those fighters they couldn't.

    Photo evidence is a B**** ain't it?

    I'm not even a GSP fan.

    Can you give me video evidence?

    k thanx


    Dumb*** request, also ignore overplayed rap song I just grabbed the 1st one.
    Once again, you can also create an illusion that a fighter is active by piecing together and replaying a few exciting seconds from twenty plus fights.
    Not with those fighters they couldn't
    waikru said:
    That article explains someone's P***ed off that GSP doesn't use his Karate like he used to. But, GSP dominates. Since Serra, no one has come close to beating GSP other than the Condit head kick, which GSP reponded to by standing up, throwing a combo in his face and then slamming him into the mat.

    That's dominant. And not appreciating that makes you about a half-step ahead of the guy that asked me if Brock was still the HW champ five months after he retired.
    Shields won rounds four and five and out struck GSP in that fight. If the fight was not scored on a round by round basis, GSP would have lost. And once again, winning rounds by positional control is not dominance.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

    image
  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura said:

    waikru said:

    Bandura lets look at the last four fights of these great fighters hes been fighting.

    Shields 1-2-0-1
    Koscheck 2-2
    Fitch 1-2-1
    Alves 2-2
    Penn 1-2-1
    Hardy 2-2

    Pretty impressive

    wrong weight class (also beat Hendo)
    old
    bad luck then out muscled
    mentally broken by GSP
    Lazy
    Hardy sucks, give you that.
    The point is that all of the people he fought pretty much sucked.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

    image
  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    Stop. Just Stop.

    Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

    Who won Aldo/Edgar?

    And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.
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    All hail the Dark sith ruler, Darth Shubeous!
  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    edited February 2013
    Bandura said:

    Stop. Just Stop.

    Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

    Who won Aldo/Edgar?

    And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

    He landed more strikes than GSP in that fight. If the fight was judged as a whole (like they did in Pride), he would have lost. Aldo outstruck Edgar, so that argument is not even relevant.
    Post edited by waikru on
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

    image
  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    waikru said:

    Bandura said:

    Stop. Just Stop.

    Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

    Who won Aldo/Edgar?

    And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

    He landed more strikes than GSP in that fight. If the fight was judged as a whole (like they did in Pride), he would have lost. Aldo outstruck Edgar, so that argument is not even relevant.
    Nah
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,707Free
    KOOKORK said:

    WarWest said:

    GSP isn't dominant in his division.
    GSP doesn't make entertaining fights.
    GSP brings no hype to the organization.
    GSP doesn't bring a very special type of fighting.
    GSP is not a TUF winner.
    GSP doesn't jump any divisions unless you consider "jumping divisions" fighting guys a weightclass below yours in your weightclass.
    GSP didn't name himself Clay Guida.

    How the **** is this dude still in the UFC!?


    He makes tons of money in PPV . That is how. Money making is no 1 reason you may stay relevant . Don't you agree?
    The super stacked cards that he is on make tons of money in PPV
    The Cal Ripken Of GSP hatin'
    Arch Bishop Of Anti-GSP
    The Stockton Hater
    209's So Fine
  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,707Free
    Bandura said:

    "GSP isn't dominant in his division."

    Really?

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    Yes

    Really
    The Cal Ripken Of GSP hatin'
    Arch Bishop Of Anti-GSP
    The Stockton Hater
    209's So Fine
  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    Bandura said:

    waikru said:

    Bandura said:

    Stop. Just Stop.

    Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

    Who won Aldo/Edgar?

    And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

    He landed more strikes than GSP in that fight. If the fight was judged as a whole (like they did in Pride), he would have lost. Aldo outstruck Edgar, so that argument is not even relevant.
    Nah
    Check Fight Metrics.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

    image
  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,707Free
    Bandura said:

    Stop. Just Stop.

    Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

    Who won Aldo/Edgar?

    And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!! ^^^
    The Cal Ripken Of GSP hatin'
    Arch Bishop Of Anti-GSP
    The Stockton Hater
    209's So Fine
  • BanduraBandura Posts: 1,453Free
    WarWest said:

    Bandura said:

    Stop. Just Stop.

    Shields basically won because he took the last two rounds?

    Who won Aldo/Edgar?

    And he doesn't just lay on guys, he is beating them down the whole time.

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!! ^^^
    Yawn, I'm done. See ya tommorow.
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    All hail the Dark sith ruler, Darth Shubeous!
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