What would happen if Liddell trained and came back against a number 15 guy

Sisti

What would happen if Liddell trained his butt off and came back for one more fight, but against a guy who is more realistically at his level. Like a Forrest/Liddell fight

JonBonesJonesFan

He'd still be knocked out probably :(

Hell Franklin did it and he had a broken arm.

Sisti

JonBonesJonesFan said:

He'd still be knocked out probably :(

Hell Franklin did it and he had a broken arm.

weird how a guy could seem completely unbeatable at one point and 5 years later can't even hold his own vs. a number 15 guy

i have a feeling that liddell still was very good toward the end of his career, but they were giving him the best opponents possible for every match (besides franklin. if they just gave him more realistic opponents (guys ranked 10-15) instead of consistently giving him very top guys he would have had a better end of his career

WarWest

He would test positive for cocaine

PoloRidah

Sisti said:

JonBonesJonesFan said:

He'd still be knocked out probably :(

Hell Franklin did it and he had a broken arm.

weird how a guy could seem completely unbeatable at one point and 5 years later can't even hold his own vs. a number 15 guy

i have a feeling that liddell still was very good toward the end of his career, but they were giving him the best opponents possible for every match (besides franklin. if they just gave him more realistic opponents (guys ranked 10-15) instead of consistently giving him very top guys he would have had a better end of his career

The thing is Liddell probably wouldn't want to fight guys ranked 10-15. Guys in his situation want to hang with the best in the division and if they can't, they hang up the gloves and retire.

WarWest said:

He would test positive for cocaine

LoL

JonBonesJonesFan

Sisti said:

JonBonesJonesFan said:

He'd still be knocked out probably :(

Hell Franklin did it and he had a broken arm.

weird how a guy could seem completely unbeatable at one point and 5 years later can't even hold his own vs. a number 15 guy

i have a feeling that liddell still was very good toward the end of his career, but they were giving him the best opponents possible for every match (besides franklin. if they just gave him more realistic opponents (guys ranked 10-15) instead of consistently giving him very top guys he would have had a better end of his career

Yeah i know. Kinda sad. I don't necessarily feel like they gave him too much of a test. You know he lost to Rampage. not a bad loss considering Rampage used to be good. They pair him against Jardine. not bad there. Throw him Wanderlei and does well. He split with jardine and beat wandy so step it up. they give him Rashad. makes sense. he dies. then the UFC gives him... Shogun? lol wth. didn't like that one. then they give him franklin. I don't mind who they threw in front of him other than Shogun.

PATSTER

I'd like to see Chuck take a hook from Glover on the chin and see what happens.

JonBonesJonesFan

PATSTER said:

I'd like to see Chuck take a hook from Glover on the chin and see what happens.

Glover is a chump. Chuck could take that **** and keep moving forward winging overhands...

juice64011

JonBonesJonesFan said:

Sisti said:

JonBonesJonesFan said:

He'd still be knocked out probably :(

Hell Franklin did it and he had a broken arm.

weird how a guy could seem completely unbeatable at one point and 5 years later can't even hold his own vs. a number 15 guy

i have a feeling that liddell still was very good toward the end of his career, but they were giving him the best opponents possible for every match (besides franklin. if they just gave him more realistic opponents (guys ranked 10-15) instead of consistently giving him very top guys he would have had a better end of his career

Yeah i know. Kinda sad. I don't necessarily feel like they gave him too much of a test. You know he lost to Rampage. not a bad loss considering Rampage used to be good. They pair him against Jardine. not bad there. Throw him Wanderlei and does well. He split with jardine and beat wandy so step it up. they give him Rashad. makes sense. he dies. then the UFC gives him... Shogun? lol wth. didn't like that one. then they give him franklin. I don't mind who they threw in front of him other than Shogun.

I think that he would have done ok if they would have gave him someone that isn't a striker to let him get his confidence back at the time. Most of those guys that he faced have a pretty high KO percentage. I mean most people are saying that Franklin was a good matchup for him but Rich has 15 knockouts out of his 29 wins. Shogun and Rampage both were knocking people out at that time and anyone would have dropped to that punch from Rashad. It sucks that Chuck's chin wasn't as good but it also wasn't as bad as people say on these forums.

At this point though Chuck has been out of the game for too long and should just stay retired.

jduk

Chuck would get dropped by a jab at this point

Bobo_Vieri

Well.. Chuck would murder Forrest, or a weak striker like Davis anytime.

BruteDion

He would get Koed by any top 15 guy and would lose a UD to any top 20 guy...for example Joey Beltran would KO him...Kyle THE BU Kingsbury would UD him

He's just that gone from his prime...and to be honest I always respected his wanting to Throw Down and all but he never was the best LHW at any given time....either Randy,Rampage,Wandy had his number...and he had to eye poke Randy to get one of those wins

Omoplataypus

JonBonesJonesFan said:

PATSTER said:

I'd like to see Chuck take a hook from Glover on the chin and see what happens.

Glover is a chump. Chuck could take that **** and keep moving forward winging overhands...

Agree with the first part but Chuck would get KOd by a Rashad jab catch nowadays.

ShannonRitch1p4p

Any LHW wins at the touch of gloves by KO.

And as stated above, chuck tests positive for cocaine, ecstacy, and all other helluva drugs.

skullbone

Chuck has the skills and power to beat anybody at LHW, but he doesn't have the body anymore. His brain shuts down a lot easier than it used to, yet his style requires a solid chin. He has a 50-50 chance in any fight of either scoring a KO or getting KO'd himself. He could still get some wins, but at this point, why? It wouldn't add much to his legacy unless he were to recapture the title which is unrealistic to say the least.

BruteDion

ShannonRitch1p4p said:

Any LHW wins at the touch of gloves by KO.

And as stated above, chuck tests positive for cocaine, ecstacy, and all other helluva drugs.

No lie...I has a Drive Improvement Program I had to complete 2 months ago

And in one of the sections it talked bout not taking drugs and driving...in one of the power point there was a picture of Chuck at a party lol

carnages41

Chuck would KO any LHW except Rampage and Rich

TheUnicorn

JonBonesJonesFan said:

PATSTER said:

I'd like to see Chuck take a hook from Glover on the chin and see what happens.

Glover is a chump. Chuck could take that **** and keep moving forward winging overhands...

Chuck can NOT take ANY strike to the chin and be ok at this point he should be known as "No chin" Chuck Liddell

Gobbo

Liddell had the skillset to remain in the top 5 at the time he retired but his body was done. His partying did take a toll in a few of his last fights however by the end he had rededicated himself to fighting and a comeback and had diversified his fighting style again instead of just head hunting. His chin had different ideas however and had just taken too much punishment over the years and gave out on him, so unless they find a new version of TRT that gives him the chin of a younger man he wouldn't be able to compete with a top 15.

Darksjeik

Maybe a couple of kilos of product and several gallons of liquor ago..

Galvanik

Chuck could never come back- he's too old and his style is too predictable. That, and his chin has turned to porcelain.

ijosef

A lot of people don't realize how great a wrestler Chuck Liddell really was. However, instead of using it to takedown and control his opponent, he usually used it to keep fights standing. Unfortunately this proved to be his undoing in his later years. If he'd changed his style (not exactly fan friendly for the average UFC viewer) to be more grappling oriented, I think he could've lasted longer.

He was in great shape for the Franklin fight and was winning handily before he got caught. Unfortunately when he thought he saw a window of opportunity, he charged in head first, hands down. His chin met Franklin's fist and a shot that might have rocked the old Chuck simply put him out cold. If he'd have fought smart he could've won that fight easily.

Oh_No

He should come back and fight Wanderlei

Sisti

JonBonesJonesFan said:

Sisti said:

JonBonesJonesFan said:

He'd still be knocked out probably :(

Hell Franklin did it and he had a broken arm.

weird how a guy could seem completely unbeatable at one point and 5 years later can't even hold his own vs. a number 15 guy

i have a feeling that liddell still was very good toward the end of his career, but they were giving him the best opponents possible for every match (besides franklin. if they just gave him more realistic opponents (guys ranked 10-15) instead of consistently giving him very top guys he would have had a better end of his career

Yeah i know. Kinda sad. I don't necessarily feel like they gave him too much of a test. You know he lost to Rampage. not a bad loss considering Rampage used to be good. They pair him against Jardine. not bad there. Throw him Wanderlei and does well. He split with jardine and beat wandy so step it up. they give him Rashad. makes sense. he dies. then the UFC gives him... Shogun? lol wth. didn't like that one. then they give him franklin. I don't mind who they threw in front of him other than Shogun.

true...it made sense to throw him rashad after he beat Wanderlei because people were still thinking he was the man at that point. it's hard to predict the future when you are dealing with a guy like Chuck who was so good at one point that they couldn't find anyone to even put him against. i think they could have gave him a little bit easier of an opponent than rashad though seeing as though he lost 2 in a row before he beat wanderlei. also, the shogun fight was ridiculous at that point since he lost 3 of his last 4. it was just a sad way to see his career end

PunchBag

he would get KTFO again

Sisti

PunchBag said:

he would get KTFO again

Most likely, but the thing is...he couldn't end his career any worse than how he already did. At least he'd be giving it a shot and I think that's worth it at this point. Time's creeking up and in your 40's you really only have one last shot to be competitive in the UFC

zaksame

Lidell could be champion if he trained his butt off and laid off the drugs.He was never any of that and was still as good as they come,so ya no problem seeing him wear the belt.