Cruz to retain title despite absence

waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
edited April 2013 in UFC
Cruz has been out for 18 months with no date set for his return. Dana finally came to a final decision on the BW title: "He will keep and defend his title," via text. Should the UFC allow him to keep his title?

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/9153848/dominick-cruz-remain-official-ufc-bantamweight-champion
Post edited by waikru on
On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

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  • PoloRidahPoloRidah Posts: 11,250Free
    Lame.

    No he should be stripped.
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  • PoloRidahPoloRidah Posts: 11,250Free
    I don't even like watching Cruz fight anyway. Strip this point fighter.
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  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,582Free
    Yes, he should be allowed to keep it, he's the champ. It's really going to suck for him having to come back from an almost 2 year lay off to fight Barao. That's a real tough fight without injury and time off.
  • JunglebirdJunglebird Posts: 9,741Free
    nobody considers Cruz the champ anymore.

    He beat minimouse and Faber. Barao beat faber worse, Finished Macdonald, ans is set to defend again.

    I feel bad for Cruz, but he should be stripped and offered an immediate title shot when/if he comes back
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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free
    edited April 2013
    I'm kind of torn. On one hand, I want Barrao to win the title proper by beating the champ. On the other hand, I don't want Barrao to have to defend an interm title instead of a real world title.
    Post edited by waikru on
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

    "Believe in the beard"

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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,001Free

    nobody considers Cruz the champ anymore.

    He beat minimouse and Faber. Barao beat faber worse, Finished Macdonald, ans is set to defend again.

    I feel bad for Cruz, but he should be stripped and offered an immediate title shot when/if he comes back

    Thats not a bad idea.
    On November 16th Hendricks became the real undisputed champion.

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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,709Free
    Booooooooooo

    Barao is the true champ right now
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  • AxeMurduhAxeMurduh ShuragogaunepechwanPosts: 1,918Free
    Barao is the real champion , you all know that. Cruz is boring as ****, when he comes back to fight Barao i will be happy to see him get finished.

  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    Right on

    The belt and title of undisputed champion is something earned and not a hot potato
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  • PoloRidahPoloRidah Posts: 11,250Free
    Keem said:

    Right on

    The belt and title of undisputed champion is something earned and not a hot potato

    He earned it originally.

    He has not earned the right to keep it.
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free

    nobody considers Cruz the champ anymore.

    He beat minimouse and Faber. Barao beat faber worse, Finished Macdonald, ans is set to defend again.

    I feel bad for Cruz, but he should be stripped and offered an immediate title shot when/if he comes back

    That would defeat the whole purpose of Barao winning the interim title

    Cruz is the undisputed champ till he's defeated as the same for Barao as the interim champ
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    Megumi Fuji

    I am an idiot for thinking GSP could finish the P4P GOAT Nick Diaz within 5 rounds

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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    edited April 2013
    PoloRidah said:

    Keem said:

    Right on

    The belt and title of undisputed champion is something earned and not a hot potato

    He earned it originally.

    He has not earned the right to keep it.
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    - C.Condit - B.Henderson - J.Jones - C.Oliveira


    J.Benavidez - H.Hioki - T.Griffin - M.Torres - J. Hathaway - J. Howard - B.Tavares - M.Johnson - M.Brimage - D.Kim - T."Lion" Inoue - LC. Davis - M. Semezier - Y.Alcantara - Wineland - H.Lim


    Megumi Fuji

    I am an idiot for thinking GSP could finish the P4P GOAT Nick Diaz within 5 rounds

    Greg - "It's, about.. WAR! You understand me?! You bounce, you move and you punish this kid. This is 5 minutes of war, now you go and give it to me!"
    Condit- *Aye aye coach; say no more*
  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,709Free
    Barao will beat Cruz when he comes back

    They might as well give it to him now and have Cruz fight him as soon as he's ready
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  • WarWestWarWest Órale VatoPosts: 33,709Free
    DCDW said:

    When the Interim champ has more title defenses than the champ, then it should change hands officially.

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  • IdentityIdentity Posts: 6,896Free
    I've defended the title more times then cruz
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    DCDW said:

    When the Interim champ has more title defenses than the champ, then it should change hands officially.

    The interim champ becomes the real deal when he beats the undisputed champ

    Interim title defenses don't change that; the title unificaiton match will though
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    J.Benavidez - H.Hioki - T.Griffin - M.Torres - J. Hathaway - J. Howard - B.Tavares - M.Johnson - M.Brimage - D.Kim - T."Lion" Inoue - LC. Davis - M. Semezier - Y.Alcantara - Wineland - H.Lim


    Megumi Fuji

    I am an idiot for thinking GSP could finish the P4P GOAT Nick Diaz within 5 rounds

    Greg - "It's, about.. WAR! You understand me?! You bounce, you move and you punish this kid. This is 5 minutes of war, now you go and give it to me!"
    Condit- *Aye aye coach; say no more*
  • SolidStateLogicSolidStateLogic Posts: 4,181Free
    I like Cruz more than Barao but Barao is and should be considered the champ at BW, he's defended his title and beaten everyone. It's going to a really hard fight for Cruz when he comes back to fight Barao with a 2 year lay off.
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  • GalvanikGalvanik Posts: 1,004Free
    Cruz should be stripped of the title and have an immediate title shot upon his return. I don't even think Cruz would argue with that decision.
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    edited April 2013
    Galvanik said:

    Cruz should be stripped of the title and have an immediate title shot upon his return. I don't even think Cruz would argue with that decision.

    Cruz is opposed to giving up his belt. He made that clear on the UFC tonight show and Urijah Faber backed him up on that despite their animosity towards each other. Barao is great, I like his style, but the title of "undisputed champ" isn't given it's earned. His interim title isn't any less than of a legitmate title at the end of the day
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    - C.Condit - B.Henderson - J.Jones - C.Oliveira


    J.Benavidez - H.Hioki - T.Griffin - M.Torres - J. Hathaway - J. Howard - B.Tavares - M.Johnson - M.Brimage - D.Kim - T."Lion" Inoue - LC. Davis - M. Semezier - Y.Alcantara - Wineland - H.Lim


    Megumi Fuji

    I am an idiot for thinking GSP could finish the P4P GOAT Nick Diaz within 5 rounds

    Greg - "It's, about.. WAR! You understand me?! You bounce, you move and you punish this kid. This is 5 minutes of war, now you go and give it to me!"
    Condit- *Aye aye coach; say no more*
  • PunchBagPunchBag Posts: 7,804Free
    edited April 2013
    but if barao looses his interim title hes hardly going to be remembered as a champ, nobody considers condit a ufc champ even though he himself won an interim belt. I compeltely understand why barao would want to have his belt upgraded, hes putting it all on the line and if he looses he isnt remembered as a ufc champ, yet hes defended the belt more times than cruz
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  • JohnnyZadarJohnnyZadar Posts: 8,936Free
    PoloRidah said:

    Lame.

    No he should be stripped.

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  • ShannonRitch1p4pShannonRitch1p4p Posts: 9,957Free
    Very bad call IMO.

    I was hoping Zuffa would set an example here. You cant have an interim champ fill in for the champ, the champ gets injured for another year, and let him keep his belt.
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  • OmoplataypusOmoplataypus BostonPosts: 4,556Free
    Cruz doesn't own the damn division. It's Barao's now. Let him get an immediate title shot when he's healthy, but it's bordering on ridiculousness to let a guy back up an entire division of great fighters.

    What if Cruz suffers another set back? What if something goes really wrong and he can't fight anymore, would Barao get all his interim title defenses counted as undisputed title defenses or would they mean nothing because he hadn't been officially crowned yet?

    To me its BS to let his defenses fall by the wayside just because Cruz isnt healing well enough to get back in a reasonable timeframe.
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  • Za1994Za1994 Posts: 3,163Free
    Cruz is my man. But Barao is the real champ right now. Props to him for defending his interim belt.
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  • GoToGuyGoToGuy Posts: 5,361Free
    PunchBag said:

    but if barao looses his interim title hes hardly going to be remembered as a champ, nobody considers condit a ufc champ even though he himself won an interim belt. I compeltely understand why barao would want to have his belt upgraded, hes putting it all on the line and if he looses he isnt remembered as a ufc champ, yet hes defended the belt more times than cruz

    This. Cruz has been out for WAY to long. Barao should be upgraded to undisputed champ and Cruz gets his crack on return.
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  • Gabri1985Gabri1985 Manchester, England Posts: 7,695Free
    PunchBag said:

    but if barao looses his interim title hes hardly going to be remembered as a champ, nobody considers condit a ufc champ even though he himself won an interim belt. I compeltely understand why barao would want to have his belt upgraded, hes putting it all on the line and if he looses he isnt remembered as a ufc champ, yet hes defended the belt more times than cruz

    the difference is Condit didn't defend the belt, by the time Cruz is back barao will of had two title fights.
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