Jesus Christ herb dean u missed a dislocation? shame

OzprideOzpride Posts: 4,098Free
Herb Dean put Jung at horrible risk of serious injury when that happened. Complete dislocation, he notices it then let Aldo throw kicks at it?

He needs to be brought to serious action for this blatant disregard for fighter safety.

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  • ThisiswarThisiswar Posts: 499Free
    Agreed but it might have been awkward angle to see. Sad to see a fight end like that.
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  • Shark_EtiquetteShark_Etiquette Posts: 774Free
    I said it back when Mazz was getting all his hate.
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  • KZ could of verbally tapped, but he chose to fight on.
  • Shark_EtiquetteShark_Etiquette Posts: 774Free
    TUF1_ said:

    would have been much more butthurt had herb stopped it early and people would have been whining that he could have fought with 1 arm and oh Herb STOPPED the fight

    True.
    I rather the fight go on than getting stopped & watching all these KZ zombie fans whine about how Aldo got lucky. Aldo also needs to step up his game. I'm ashamed to take MT now.
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  • Apparently Aldo injured his foot in round 1 and was uncomfortable, that could explain why he threw minimal kicks and went for takedowns. According to Pederneiras.
  • Shark_EtiquetteShark_Etiquette Posts: 774Free

    Apparently Aldo injured his foot in round 1 and was uncomfortable, that could explain why he threw minimal kicks and went for takedowns. According to Pederneiras.

    That explains it.
    I think it was maybe the first kick.
    Saw it & heard it.
    Automatically thought about someone here saying Aldo would break his leg kicking KZ.
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  • BobmysterBobmyster Posts: 2,677Free

    KZ could of verbally tapped, but he chose to fight on.


    This^^^^^ props to zomb's, hopefully he'll come back stronger, get anothe streak going and have another chance for the title but this time as the new improved zombie!
    I feel if the fight continued without his shoulder popping he would have won!
    I hope he comes back against lamas, shuts him up and then beats Mendes for a shot at the belt!
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  • 12er12er StocktonPosts: 11,059Free
    Stefano said:

    Faber fought Brown after breaking both hands.

    This. Faber is a G. Both hands broke....**** it I'll throw elbows.
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  • najmanajma Posts: 2,072Free
    Chung would've put the shoulder in place if only he had the chance to... or had Aldo kicked him harder in it.
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    edited August 2013
    Not gonna lie

    I wouldn't of been upset w/ a no contest if Herb stopped it when it happened

    It should have been treated like a bad eye poke, or low blow since it's unintentional and dangerous for the fighter
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  • JbrahamsJbrahams Brisbane, AustraliaPosts: 11,783Ultimate
    Keem said:

    Not gonna lie

    I wouldn't of been upset w/ a no contest if Herb stopped it when it happened

    It should have been treated like a bad eye poke, or low blow since it's unintentional and dangerous for the fighter

    would have been TKO (injury) victory to Aldo
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  • TahuneTahune Posts: 1,890Free
    Aldo started pouring it on once he saw KZ was hurt.

    I found that a bit disappointing that he'd played it so safe until that point.

    KZ looked like he was trying to pop it back in- he's a tough dude.
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  • 12er12er StocktonPosts: 11,059Free
    Tahune said:

    Aldo started pouring it on once he saw KZ was hurt.

    I found that a bit disappointing that he'd played it so safe until that point.

    KZ looked like he was trying to pop it back in- he's a tough dude.

    I would have tried to if I were him too. That might be the only shot he ever gets.
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  • TahuneTahune Posts: 1,890Free
    12er said:

    Tahune said:

    Aldo started pouring it on once he saw KZ was hurt.

    I found that a bit disappointing that he'd played it so safe until that point.

    KZ looked like he was trying to pop it back in- he's a tough dude.

    I would have tried to if I were him too. That might be the only shot he ever gets.
    Yeah it was like someone had turned the switch on to kill mode.
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    edited August 2013
    Tahune said:

    Aldo started pouring it on once he saw KZ was hurt.

    I found that a bit disappointing that he'd played it so safe until that point.

    KZ looked like he was trying to pop it back in- he's a tough dude.

    It doesn't hurt to fight smart, in Aldo's case it wasn't like he was dragging a** the whole fight, ya know?

    Schaub doesn't get kudos for pouring it on Rothwell when he had him hurt lol
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  • gazlufcgazlufc Posts: 651Free
    Im not a fan of Herb Dean as a ref but i`ll admit i never noticed the shoulder pop until Stann mentioned it.But why does Dean constantly tell fighters to work one week and the next does f all
  • MrBisonMrBison Posts: 556Free
    Not gona lie.. I know this is a ruthless fight buisness, but would have been nice to see a bit of fair play from Aldo. Oh well I have never stepped into a cage myself so in no place to judge.
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  • kapstkapst ChicagolandPosts: 2,660Free
    Dislocations can easily be popped back in sometimes with little consequence. I think Herb was right to give him a chance. He stopped it as soon as Jung was in real danger.
  • HORSEtheBandLIFHORSEtheBandLIF Posts: 500Free
    kapst said:

    Dislocations can easily be popped back in sometimes with little consequence. I think Herb was right to give him a chance. He stopped it as soon as Jung was in real danger.

    Exactly what I was going to say. You all saw TKZ try and pop it back in himself, and it wouldn't have been surprising if he was able to. It was stopped perfectly in my opinion, and anyone who doesn't like Herb as a ref is one picky mofo.
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  • OzprideOzpride Posts: 4,098Free

    KZ could of verbally tapped, but he chose to fight on.

    kapst said:

    Dislocations can easily be popped back in sometimes with little consequence. I think Herb was right to give him a chance. He stopped it as soon as Jung was in real danger.

    Exactly what I was going to say. You all saw TKZ try and pop it back in himself, and it wouldn't have been surprising if he was able to. It was stopped perfectly in my opinion, and anyone who doesn't like Herb as a ref is one picky mofo.
    clearly never had a shoulder injury... if its a partial dislocation you may be able to knock it back in, but a full separation, it's basically impossible to put back in yourself. The pain receptors are going ballistic. They react so fast there is no time for shock, while it is out is basically instant agony, then shock. It hurts more than a break on the spot, which is why fighters can fight on with a break. It's a massive risk to nerves and ligaments to even move a dislocated limb, let alone let someone throw kicks at it.

    I've had two full reconstructions and about 6 dislocations, and broken my forearm and hand before.

    It's straight up negligent imho






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  • zaksamezaksame Posts: 4,342Free
    Yes it was VERY obvious to probably 99.9% of the watchers,so go figure the guy in CHARGE with fighter safety misses it,but not surprised ,iit is Herb Dean the lumbering fat body,terrible ref extraordinaire.
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  • juice64011juice64011 Posts: 5,962Free
    Ozpride said:

    KZ could of verbally tapped, but he chose to fight on.

    kapst said:

    Dislocations can easily be popped back in sometimes with little consequence. I think Herb was right to give him a chance. He stopped it as soon as Jung was in real danger.

    Exactly what I was going to say. You all saw TKZ try and pop it back in himself, and it wouldn't have been surprising if he was able to. It was stopped perfectly in my opinion, and anyone who doesn't like Herb as a ref is one picky mofo.
    clearly never had a shoulder injury... if its a partial dislocation you may be able to knock it back in, but a full separation, it's basically impossible to put back in yourself. The pain receptors are going ballistic. They react so fast there is no time for shock, while it is out is basically instant agony, then shock. It hurts more than a break on the spot, which is why fighters can fight on with a break. It's a massive risk to nerves and ligaments to even move a dislocated limb, let alone let someone throw kicks at it.

    I've had two full reconstructions and about 6 dislocations, and broken my forearm and hand before.

    It's straight up negligent imho
    It's basically impossible for Herb to tell if it is a partial dislocation or not during a fight. I have a friend that had a partial dislocation during a fight, popped it back in between rounds, and won the fight. There was nothing negligent about what Herb did. I think that he did exactly what he should do.
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  • HORSEtheBandLIFHORSEtheBandLIF Posts: 500Free
    Ozpride said:

    KZ could of verbally tapped, but he chose to fight on.

    kapst said:

    Dislocations can easily be popped back in sometimes with little consequence. I think Herb was right to give him a chance. He stopped it as soon as Jung was in real danger.

    Exactly what I was going to say. You all saw TKZ try and pop it back in himself, and it wouldn't have been surprising if he was able to. It was stopped perfectly in my opinion, and anyone who doesn't like Herb as a ref is one picky mofo.
    clearly never had a shoulder injury... if its a partial dislocation you may be able to knock it back in, but a full separation, it's basically impossible to put back in yourself. The pain receptors are going ballistic. They react so fast there is no time for shock, while it is out is basically instant agony, then shock. It hurts more than a break on the spot, which is why fighters can fight on with a break. It's a massive risk to nerves and ligaments to even move a dislocated limb, let alone let someone throw kicks at it.

    I've had two full reconstructions and about 6 dislocations, and broken my forearm and hand before.

    It's straight up negligent imho
    You really think it's easy to notice what type of shoulder injury someone sustains in a fight? You think he should have jumped in straight away? Man, I would hate to have you ref a fight of mine. Also, I have had shoulder injuries and I know how painful they can be, but this is a high level title fight we are talking about.
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