Brazil or USA?

Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
edited August 2013 in UFC
Clearly the 2 most successful mma countries in the world, if Dana puts forth a Tuf season next year with the two it would be the biggest season ever. But which country actually has the better fighters?


Notable Top Fighters from each country:

USA:
Jones
Weidman
Benson
Cain V
Edgar
Sonnen
Davis
Cruz
Ellenberger
Marquardt
Shields
Mendes
Condit
Munoz
Hendricks
Diaz
Cerrone
Benavidez
Faber
Sanchez
Jim Miller
Healy
Pettis
Lauzon
Guillard
Matt Brown
Hendo
Browne
Cormier
Mir
Michael Mcdonald
FleeJ
Hall
Rockhold
Barnett
Wineland
Evans
Bader
Kelvin
Tavares
Costa
Wonderboy
Maynard

Brazil:
JDS
Aldo
Shogun
Wandy
Vitor
Silva(x5)
Maia
Barao
Glover
Machida
Jacare
Werdum
Ferreira
Nog
Alves



Pretty clear to see which country is the best in the world at mma imo.

Discuss.
Post edited by Weidman_the_GOAT on

Brazil or USA?

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Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
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  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA
    If I forgot any top fighters from either country please list, I will review it and add to OP. Thanx.
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    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • Cole1186Cole1186 Posts: 3,731Free
    Brazil
    I got Brazil. I'm American but I think the Brazilians are just awesome fighters. That's a tough choice tho.... Clearly America and Brazil own mma
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,496Free
    USA
    I voted wrong

    P4p the Brazilian's are better but it's damn close

    I think a better debate is who is closer for 3rd Aussie Land or The UK
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,496Free
    USA
    The USA has a huge population and many people from everywhere come to train there cuz the gyms are so much better then everywhere else

    But p4p a Brazilian born in brazil is better then an American born in America
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,496Free
    USA

    If I forgot any top fighters from either country please list, I will review it and add to OP. Thanx.

    Brazil:
    Thiago Alves
    Jussie de Silva

    USA:
    Tim Kennedy
    Michael Macdonald
    D. Johnson
    Maynard
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  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA
    BruteDion said:

    The USA has a huge population and many people from everywhere come to train there cuz the gyms are so much better then everywhere else

    But p4p a Brazilian born in brazil is better then an American born in America

    If your trying to look at quality over quantity than look no further than the top 10 for each country.
    Usa: Weidman, Jones, Pettis, Benson, Hendricks, Cruz, Mendes, Condit, Edgar, Hendo.
    Brazil: aldo, anderson, machida, glover, jacare, jds, shogun, vitor, barao, wandy(lol)
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    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • CaptainSupermanCaptainSuperman Posts: 10,101Free
    Wonderboy?
    Marfart?
    Munluz?
    Tavarez?
    Kelvin?
    Snoozehold?

    Struve isn't even from Murica you dunce
  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,496Free
    USA

    BruteDion said:

    The USA has a huge population and many people from everywhere come to train there cuz the gyms are so much better then everywhere else

    But p4p a Brazilian born in brazil is better then an American born in America

    If your trying to look at quality over quantity than look no further than the top 10 for each country.
    Usa: Weidman, Jones, Pettis, Benson, Hendricks, Cruz, Mendes, Condit, Edgar, Hendo.
    Brazil: aldo, anderson, machida, glover, jacare, jds, shogun, vitor, barao, wandy(lol)
    You just listed brazil side which has 10 major promo title to thier names where the American side has 8 title...also the brazil side has a longer avg title reign,more title defences

    Thanks you for making my case
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  • CaptainSupermanCaptainSuperman Posts: 10,101Free
    edited August 2013
    Costa isn't American born either
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  • BruteDionBruteDion Posts: 10,496Free
    USA

    BruteDion said:

    The USA has a huge population and many people from everywhere come to train there cuz the gyms are so much better then everywhere else

    But p4p a Brazilian born in brazil is better then an American born in America

    If your trying to look at quality over quantity than look no further than the top 10 for each country.
    Usa: Weidman, Jones, Pettis, Benson, Hendricks, Cruz, Mendes, Condit, Edgar, Hendo.
    Brazil: aldo, anderson, machida, glover, jacare, jds, shogun, vitor, barao, wandy(lol)
    You also forgot Cain.V the current champ at HW

    And Big Nog who is a top 10 still

    Also on you first post Werdum should be on the Brazil side
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  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA

    you might wanna consider the fact that UFC is located in USA and gives many more opportunities for their countrymen.

    USA is better, i'm just saying that helps.

    Lol. Mma is a global sport.
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    Weidman | Belfort | Sanchez | Gus | Aldo | Maia | JDS | Pettis | Shogun | Glover | Jacare | Machida | Silva | Cub | Mcgregor | Manuwa


    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    edited August 2013
    USA

    i'm saying is american naturally have more opportunities to get into the UFC.

    i believe american fighters need to do less to get into the UFC than foreigners.

    To get into the ufc maybe, but to stay in the ufc and become a top contender is a much harder thing to do; and look at all the Americans listed in the OP. Being Brazilian if anything makes it easier to stay in the ufc when you lose since dana thinks they are way more marketable now, where as Americans can get cut if they lose 1-2 fights in a row since there is so many of them the competition to keep a job is fierce. Meanwhile last night I didn't even know who half the Brazilian fighters were on the 163 card until last saturday and they were still gifted a spot on a paperview.
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    Weidman | Belfort | Sanchez | Gus | Aldo | Maia | JDS | Pettis | Shogun | Glover | Jacare | Machida | Silva | Cub | Mcgregor | Manuwa


    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • BeanslegendBeanslegend Posts: 808Free
    You put some really crappy American fighters up there. Also Canada has the #1 and #2 P4P, GSP and Rory Psycho Macdonald. Believe dat
  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA

    You put some really crappy American fighters up there. Also Canada has the #1 and #2 P4P, GSP and Rory Psycho Macdonald. Believe dat

    Rory p4p? Lol that's a joke. Gsp #1 ? Really?
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    Weidman | Belfort | Sanchez | Gus | Aldo | Maia | JDS | Pettis | Shogun | Glover | Jacare | Machida | Silva | Cub | Mcgregor | Manuwa


    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • FroZeNFroZeN Posts: 4,762Free
    The guy that said Roidy is P4P # 2 needs to have his membership status revoked. That man needs a psychiatric evaluation. He must be on more drugs than Amanda Bynes.
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  • MMA_FTWMMA_FTW Co-Owner of the UFCPosts: 6,818Free
    USA
    USA is better because we have computers and the internet. Brazil doesn't.


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  • CaptainSupermanCaptainSuperman Posts: 10,101Free
    Plus where's Paulo Filho
    FroZeN said:

    The guy that said Roidy is P4P # 2 needs to have his membership status revoked. That man needs a psychiatric evaluation. He must be on more drugs than Amanda Bynes.

    That's not a very nice thing to say to Firas Zahabi
  • 12er12er Posts: 10,887Free
    USA

    You put some really crappy American fighters up there. Also Canada has the #1 and #2 P4P, GSP and Rory Psycho Macdonald. Believe dat

    Its like your begging me to hate you.
  • PunchBagPunchBag Posts: 7,846Free
    Brazil
    russia is p4p thats why ufc are scared to sign any more russians
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  • CaptainSupermanCaptainSuperman Posts: 10,101Free
    PunchBag said:

    russia is p4p thats why ufc are scared to sign any more russians

    Nah. Have you watched the news lately. There have literally been hundreds of "russian dashcam" videos surfacing, showing either crazy russians, or drunk russians, destroying something with their cars. If they hire a russian fighter, it's a coin flip everyday if one of their fighters gets killed or goes to jail
  • the_enigmathe_enigma Posts: 19,069Premium
    Gotta go with USA on this one, but it is close.
    However looking at current champs USA - 7, brazil - 2, Canada - 1
    The Canadian champion is soon to be dethroned by an American, and one of Brazil's champs is only an interim champ...
    Note that titles can trade places easily
    ^ I agree.
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  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA
    PunchBag said:

    russia is p4p thats why ufc are scared to sign any more russians

    Is that why Fedor was always scared to sign?
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    Weidman | Belfort | Sanchez | Gus | Aldo | Maia | JDS | Pettis | Shogun | Glover | Jacare | Machida | Silva | Cub | Mcgregor | Manuwa


    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • Aldo-is-GoatAldo-is-Goat Posts: 430Free
    Brazil
    MMA is still in it's early stages in most countries around the world, in the next 10 to 20 years I think we will have a bigger variety of countries with top tier fighters.
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  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA

    MMA is still in it's early stages in most countries around the world, in the next 10 to 20 years I think we will have a bigger variety of countries with top tier fighters.

    Yeah, especially if dana decides to start adding divisional champs for each country in the next few years like he said he would .
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    Weidman | Belfort | Sanchez | Gus | Aldo | Maia | JDS | Pettis | Shogun | Glover | Jacare | Machida | Silva | Cub | Mcgregor | Manuwa


    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,629Free
    Australia:

    Hippo
    Noke (aka White Anderson)

    It's always a battle for #2 when Australia is involved
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  • Weidman_the_GOATWeidman_the_GOAT Posts: 2,758Free
    USA

    Australia:

    Hippo
    Noke (aka White Anderson)

    It's always a battle for #2 when Australia is involved

    Lombard is better than both those cans combined.
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    Welchers:
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    Weidman | Belfort | Sanchez | Gus | Aldo | Maia | JDS | Pettis | Shogun | Glover | Jacare | Machida | Silva | Cub | Mcgregor | Manuwa


    Poop eating bets: 1-0

    Gustaffson is the Real 205 champ right now.
    Gus- 1, 2, 3, 4.
  • OmoplataypusOmoplataypus BostonPosts: 4,610Free
    edited August 2013
    USA
    Cain > JDS
    Bones > Glover
    Weidman > Silva
    Maia > Hendricks
    Chandler > everyone
    Aldo has beat every American thrown at him
    Barao > Cruz, Mcdonald
    MM/Benavidez rule FLW
    Rousey > Cyroid IMO

    Brazil definitely has their stand outs but American wins.
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  • KeemKeem Posts: 6,862Free
    USA
    USA just because more people will come to America to train MMA than go to Brazil to train MMA imo
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