Can a Champ lose belt due to DQ?

MattNMattN Posts: 1,299Free
Let say a champ KO a grounded opponent with kick to the head? Or elbow to the back of the head and KO them. If the opponent can't continue, champ get DQ right? It's a lost, so does belt goes away?
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  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    I would hope so. Jones lost a fight before his was champion by DQ. I doubt you keep a title if you end up disqualified for illegal blows.
  • MattNMattN Posts: 1,299Free
    Don't know if it's true, but if it is....winning the belt by getting KTFO by former champ illegal blow make you look weak. And most definitely the former champ will get immediate rematch.
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  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,650Free
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    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.
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  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

  • OzprideOzpride Posts: 4,091Free

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?






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  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    Anderson was trying everything he could to make that fight not happen and proceeds to cheat throughout the entire fight when they let it go on. He tried to fight Chael at the pre fight press conference. He struck Chael in the face with a cheap shot at the weigh ins.

    Having to fight Chris Weidman in his next title defense was karma coming back to haunt him via getting knocked the **** out with a left hook followed by breaking his leg in the rematch.
  • UFCCagerattlerUFCCagerattler Posts: 16,195Free
    Good question. Lewis won a title on a DQ (over McCall in the famous cry baby fight), but the title was on the line in that fight, not already held by McCAll.
  • Mcmax3000Mcmax3000 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 2,516Moderator, Elite

    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    If you want to start getting that technical, the rule is that you can't knee a downed opponent in the face, and while the thigh might be part of the leg, it's not part of the knee.

    It was a legal strike.
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  • jamamawjamamaw Posts: 2,406Free
    Nope, don't you guys ever watch WWE? Classic heel move.
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  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    Mcmax3000 said:

    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    If you want to start getting that technical, the rule is that you can't knee a downed opponent in the face, and while the thigh might be part of the leg, it's not part of the knee.

    It was a legal strike.
    Really? I didn't know it was legal to grab the cage before throwing any strike. Good to know.

  • UFCCagerattlerUFCCagerattler Posts: 16,195Free

    Mcmax3000 said:

    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    If you want to start getting that technical, the rule is that you can't knee a downed opponent in the face, and while the thigh might be part of the leg, it's not part of the knee.

    It was a legal strike.
    Really? I didn't know it was legal to grab the cage before throwing any strike. Good to know.

    IMO all pushing off the cage strikes should be illegal.Including the Petis kick.
  • Jason_H.Jason_H. Posts: 2,202Free
    A DQ is a loss. Actually it's worst than a lost. So yes, belt goes away.
    What??
  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,650Free

    Mcmax3000 said:

    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    If you want to start getting that technical, the rule is that you can't knee a downed opponent in the face, and while the thigh might be part of the leg, it's not part of the knee.

    It was a legal strike.
    Really? I didn't know it was legal to grab the cage before throwing any strike. Good to know.

    IMO all pushing off the cage strikes should be illegal.Including the Petis kick.
    Pushing is different from grabbing though
  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 21,306Free

    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    Kneeing a downed opponent to the face is illegal. Upper legging someone is not. lol
  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free

    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    Kneeing a downed opponent to the face is illegal. Upper legging someone is not. lol
    Grabbing the cage to throw any strike is illegal.
  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 21,306Free

    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    Kneeing a downed opponent to the face is illegal. Upper legging someone is not. lol
    Grabbing the cage to throw any strike is illegal.
    True. Grabbing the shorts is as well.
  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    Grabbing the shorts... yes illegal and he did it repeatedly. He also greased and threw a cheap shot at the weigh ins. What a humble champion he was...

    Watching him get knocked the **** out by a 9-0 wrestler was the greatest moment in combat sports.
  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,650Free

    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    Kneeing a downed opponent to the face is illegal. Upper legging someone is not. lol
    That's a kick, kicking a downed opponent to the head is illegal
  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 21,306Free

    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    Kneeing a downed opponent to the face is illegal. Upper legging someone is not. lol
    That's a kick, kicking a downed opponent to the head is illegal
    You can't knee to the face of a downed opponent either.
  • 12er12er StocktonPosts: 10,993Free

    Grabbing the shorts... yes illegal and he did it repeatedly. He also greased and threw a cheap shot at the weigh ins. What a humble champion he was...

    Watching him get knocked the **** out by a 9-0 wrestler was the greatest moment in combat sports.

    Yup. That, and watching him go limp from an arm punch in the clinch in their second fight was great too.
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  • StompGrindStompGrind Posts: 21,306Free

    Grabbing the shorts... yes illegal and he did it repeatedly. He also greased and threw a cheap shot at the weigh ins. What a humble champion he was...

    Watching him get knocked the **** out by a 9-0 wrestler was the greatest moment in combat sports.

    He's not humble & i don't like his questionable tactics but he does come to fight and put on a show and i respect his skills.
  • Yesterdays_HeroYesterdays_Hero Posts: 23,650Free

    Ozpride said:

    Of course, they fight under the same rules. There would almost certainly be an immediate rematch though, unless the champ was getting dominated before the illegal blow.

    Except for Georges who can grease, stall and miss weight. Anderson in that rematch against Sonnen where he was allowed to grease, grab trunks repeatedly and grab the fence to throw an illegal knee at a grounded opponent.

    Illegal knee to the sternum?
    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    Kneeing a downed opponent to the face is illegal. Upper legging someone is not. lol
    That's a kick, kicking a downed opponent to the head is illegal
    You can't knee to the face of a downed opponent either.
    I know
  • Mcmax3000Mcmax3000 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 2,516Moderator, Elite


    he does come to fight and put on a show

    Clearly you missed UFC 90, 97, and 112.
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  • UFCCagerattlerUFCCagerattler Posts: 16,195Free

    Mcmax3000 said:

    The thigh is part of your leg and struck Sonnen in the face.

    If you want to start getting that technical, the rule is that you can't knee a downed opponent in the face, and while the thigh might be part of the leg, it's not part of the knee.

    It was a legal strike.
    Really? I didn't know it was legal to grab the cage before throwing any strike. Good to know.

    IMO all pushing off the cage strikes should be illegal.Including the Petis kick.
    Pushing is different from grabbing though
    It really isn't. When guys cage walk their toes are through the cage grabbing on just like fingers would be. Im sure if you took a freeze frame of PEtis' foot on the cage you would see his toes are through the links.
  • Mcmax3000Mcmax3000 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 2,516Moderator, Elite

    It really isn't. When guys cage walk their toes are through the cage grabbing on just like fingers would be. Im sure if you took a freeze frame of PEtis' foot on the cage you would see his toes are through the links.

    It's not having your fingers, or toes through the cage that's illegal. It's using them to grip onto the fence.

    Pushing is completely fine. Grabbing is not.
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  • PekishPekish Posts: 58Free
    Can a can loose his belt?
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