About Gerard Mousasi

FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
edited February 15 in UFC
Tbh I really haven't seen much of this guy.. but I' know he's been around for a long time and I've been seeing his name be mentionned on a regular basis as a potential threat to the title for years.

So now that he's fighting a big name I thought I might as well look into it. I've never been one to buy into strikeforce hypetrains just because it's kinda obvious that the level there isn't what it is in the UFC.. all the best guys end up moving to the UFC so basically if you can't do that and stay in strikeforce, kinda seems to be because you aren't worthy material.. And after the Shields and Diaz fiascos, it seems legit to assume that... anyways..

So now I look at Mousasi's record and of course the first thing I did is look for when was the last time he lost and who it was that he lost to.. First thing to catch my attention wasn't a loss but a draw... to Keith Jardine...

moving on.. so last time he lost was in 2010 against Muhammad Lawal.. I'll let you guys be the judges about what losing to Muhammed Lawal can mean on anyone's resume because I don't have a **** clue who that is...

And since he got in the UFC he UD'd Ilir Latifi that I also don't know and don't have much means to know since he doesn't even have a wikipedia page... the bare minimum of potential credibility.. So that guy can't beat a post "prime" Jardine and beats cans...

wtf is there even hype about...
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  • STANDYOURGROUNDSTANDYOURGROUND FloridaPosts: 124Free
    Look at a list of people he's fought throughout his career. If it isn't even a little impressive to you than you need to educate yourself on mma a bit.
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  • STANDYOURGROUNDSTANDYOURGROUND FloridaPosts: 124Free
    Win 34–3–2 Ilir Latifi Decision (unanimous) UFC on Fuel TV: Mousasi vs. Latifi April 6, 2013 3 5:00 Stockholm, Sweden
    Win 33–3–2 Mike Kyle Submission (rear-naked choke) Strikeforce: Marquardt vs. Saffiedine January 12, 2013 1 4:09 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, United States
    Win 32–3–2 Ovince St. Preux Decision (unanimous) Strikeforce: Melendez vs. Masvidal December 17, 2011 3 5:00 San Diego, California, United States
    Win 31–3–2 Hiroshi Izumi TKO (punches) Dream: Japan GP Final July 16, 2011 1 3:29 Tokyo, Japan Defended the DREAM Light Heavyweight Championship.
    Draw 30–3–2 Keith Jardine Decision (majority draw) Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Daley April 9, 2011 3 5:00 San Diego, California, United States Mousasi was deducted 1 point due to an illegal upkick.
    Win 30–3–1 Tatsuya Mizuno Submission (rear-naked choke) Dream 16 September 25, 2010 1 6:10 Nagoya, Japan 2010 Dream Light Heavyweight GP Final
    Won the Dream Light Heavyweight Championship.
    Win 29–3–1 Jake O'Brien Submission (guillotine choke) Dream 15 July 10, 2010 1 0:31 Saitama, Japan DREAM 2010 Light Heavyweight Grand Prix Semifinal
    212 lb catchweight bout; O'Brien missed weight.
    Loss 28–3–1 Muhammed Lawal Decision (unanimous) Strikeforce: Nashville April 17, 2010 5 5:00 Nashville, Tennessee, United States Mousasi deducted one point for an illegal upkick.
    Lost the Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Championship.
    Win 28–2–1 Gary Goodridge TKO (punches) Dynamite!! 2009 December 31, 2009 1 1:34 Saitama, Saitama, Japan Heavyweight bout.
    Win 27–2–1 Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou TKO (punches) Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers November 7, 2009 2 3:43 Hoffman Estates, Illinois, United States Non-title bout.
    Win 26–2–1 Renato Sobral KO (punches) Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg August 15, 2009 1 1:00 San Jose, California, United States Won the Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Championship.
    Win 25–2–1 Mark Hunt Submission (kimura) Dream 9 May 26, 2009 1 1:19 Yokohama, Japan DREAM Super Hulk Grand Prix Quarterfinal.
    Openweight bout.
    Win 24–2–1 Ronaldo Souza KO (upkick) Dream 6 September 23, 2008 1 2:15 Saitama, Japan DREAM 2008 Middleweight Grand Prix Final
    Won inaugural DREAM Middleweight Championship.
    Win 23–2–1 Melvin Manhoef Submission (triangle choke) Dream 6 September 23, 2008 1 1:28 Saitama, Japan DREAM 2008 Middleweight Grand Prix Semifinal.
    Win 22–2–1 Yoon Dong-Sik Decision (unanimous) Dream 4 June 15, 2008 2 5:00 Yokohama, Japan DREAM 2008 Middleweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal.
    Win 21–2–1 Denis Kang Submission (triangle choke) Dream 2 April 29, 2008 1 3:10 Saitama, Japan DREAM 2008 Middleweight Grand Prix Opening Round.
    Win 20–2–1 Steve Mensing TKO (punches) M-1 Mixfight March 2, 2008 1 2:44 Landsmeer, Netherlands
    Win 19–2–1 Evangelista Santos TKO (punches) HCF: Destiny February 1, 2008 1 3:42 Calgary, Alberta, Canada 194 lb catchweight bout.
    Win 18–2–1 Damir Mirenic TKO (punches) HCF: Title Wave October 19, 2007 1 4:46 Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Win 17–2–1 Kyacey Uscola TKO (punches) Bodog FIGHT August 25, 2007 1 4:56 Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Win 16–2–1 Alexander Kokoev Decision (unanimous) M-1 MFC: Battles July 21, 2007 3 5:00 Saint Petersburg, Russia
    Win 15–2–1 Gregory Bouchelaghem Submission (punches) CWFC: Enter December 9, 2006 1 2:20 Nottingham, United Kingdom Won the Cage Warriors Middleweight Championship.
    Win 14–2–1 Hector Lombard Decision (unanimous) Pride Bushido 13 November 5, 2006 2 5:00 Yokohama, Japan PRIDE 2006 Welterweight Grand Prix Alternate Bout.
    Loss 13–2–1 Akihiro Gono Submission (armbar) Pride Bushido 12 August 26, 2006 2 4:24 Nagoya, Japan PRIDE 2006 Welterweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal.
    Win 13–1–1 Makoto Takimoto TKO (broken eye socket) Pride Bushido 11 June 4, 2006 1 5:34 Saitama, Japan PRIDE 2006 Welterweight Grand Prix Opening Round.
    Win 12–1–1 Hidetada Irie TKO (corner stoppage) Deep: 24 Impact April 11, 2006 2 1:29 Tokyo, Japan
    Win 11–1–1 Sanjin Kadunc TKO (punches) Future Battle March 5, 2006 1 0:35 Bergen op Zoom, Netherlands
    Win 10–1–1 Andre Fyeet TKO (punches) 2H2H: Mixed Fight December 17, 2005 1 0:40 Landsmeer, Netherlands
    Win 9–1–1 Tsuyoshi Kurihara KO (knee) Deep: 22 Impact December 2, 2005 1 0:10 Tokyo, Japan
    Win 8–1–1 Stefan Klever TKO (punches) Europe: Rotterdam Rumble October 9, 2005 1 3:39 Rotterdam, Netherlands
    Win 7–1–1 Chico Martinez Submission (rear-naked choke) JE: Holland vs. Russia April 24, 2005 1 4:39 Landsmeer, Netherlands
    Win 6–1–1 Brady Donnelly KO (punch) Rings: Bushido Ireland March 12, 2005 1 1:02 Dublin, Ireland
    Loss 5–1–1 Petras Markevičius Submission (armbar) Fight Festival 13 February 28, 2005 2 1:49 Helsinki, Finland
    Win 5–0–1 Erik Oganov Submission (rear-naked choke) M-1 MFC: Fight Night February 5, 2005 1 2:16 Saint Petersburg, Russia
    Win 4–0–1 Rody Trost TKO (punches) IMA: Mix Fight December 19, 2004 1 3:18 Landsmeer, Netherlands
    Win 3–0–1 Niko Puhakka Submission (rear-naked choke) Fight Festival 11 September 11, 2004 2 2:17 Helsinki, Finland
    Draw 2–0–1 Gilson Ferreira Decision (draw) Fight Gala November 15, 2003 2 5:00 Zaandam, Netherlands
    Win 2–0 Xander Nel TKO (punches) IMA: Mixfight October 12, 2003 1 1:05 Badhoevedorp, Netherlands
    Win 1–0 Daniel Spek TKO (punches) 2H2H: 1st Open Team April 27, 2003 1 3:40 Amsterdam, Netherlands
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  • IdentityIdentity Posts: 6,896Free
    Couldn't yo of just linked it?
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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..
  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
    I mean I may very well be wrong about him I don't know.. but looking coldly at his record right now I wouldn't even rank him top 10 in the division.
  • STANDYOURGROUNDSTANDYOURGROUND FloridaPosts: 124Free

    I mean I may very well be wrong about him I don't know.. but looking coldly at his record right now I wouldn't even rank him top 10 in the division.

    You are pretty damn cold if you look at a 36-2-2 record, 5 time champ in multiple weight classes wins against multiple former champions. I don't think you can point to more than a couple of people in the UFC with his kind of resume. Not saying he's going to beat Machida, but he is someone to keep your eye on.
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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
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    I mean I may very well be wrong about him I don't know.. but looking coldly at his record right now I wouldn't even rank him top 10 in the division.

    You are pretty damn cold if you look at a 36-2-2 record, 5 time champ in multiple weight classes wins against multiple former champions. I don't think you can point to more than a couple of people in the UFC with his kind of resume. Not saying he's going to beat Machida, but he is someone to keep your eye on.
    I know he has a good record in terms of numbers but let's face it.. most of the guys on his record are meaningless. I mean sure.. he's proven that he's above the bottom of the barrel and can shatter these unknown fighters at will. But where's the comparison with top tier fighters?

    I'm really not a Brock fan but tbh his 5-3 record, or BJ's 16-9 record are more impressive than Mousasi's 34-3.

    Oh great, another Zuffa zombie that doesn't know **** about MMA and always picks the favourite to win

    sure and how did you feel about Shields half assed and contreversial split decision to Kampman in his first UFC bout after going undefeated for 6 straight years against strikeforce's best?

    To deny that the UFC offers a higher level of competition than other promotions is just dellusional.

    If Mousasi beats Machida I'll give him his props but until he does that I'm expecting nothing fancy out of him.

    Lol. when I think guys like you have been saying of The Spider that his record was padded and yet you praise Mousasi. This guy's record is as padded as a k9 dogs trainer.
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  • OzprideOzpride Posts: 4,048Free

    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..

    you say you look into his fights and you **** goodle it?? Go and watch them before handing down sentence. He owned Jardine & Lawal and wouldve won without deductions.. Slap your damn self






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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
    Ozpride said:

    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..

    you say you look into his fights and you **** goodle it?? Go and watch them before handing down sentence. He owned Jardine & Lawal and wouldve won without deductions.. Slap your damn self
    Well that's the thing. I like to look at facts. And there's little value in looking someone own cans. That just tells me what I already know from his score : the guy is better than cans. At this point all I know is that he's a can crusher. Of course he's gonna look impressive. He's fighting low tier competition.

    If you don't know that non top 10 fighters can look impressive when they fight lower tier fighters then I don't know what to tell you. Not saying he can't win. I'm saying the hype on this guy is completely unjustified at this point because he hasn't been compared to the top guys.

    I mean Fedor's look pretty impressive as well and had a crazy record. Yet if I try to compare him to somewhat modern competition I'll take a mere look at the 5 fights he had from Arlovski to Henderson. 2-3. Decent considering that was tough competition. Yet pretty far from the 29-1 he had accumulated until then. And now he's back to crushing cans in Japan.

    All this hype is all about some guys who wanna pretend they're hardcore MMA fans by clinging to more underground circuits big names in hope to belong and feel special about it. Most of the time these long time underground lurking stars end up being disappointing when measured to the top of the pyramid. You guys just purposely disregard the fact that he's rather untested against top competition and call it for him, just in case that it happens to be that time when the broken clock is right.
  • xfatalstrifexxfatalstrifex Inside Your MomPosts: 371Free
    edited February 15



    So now I look at Mousasi's record and of course the first thing I did is look for when was the last time he lost and who it was that he lost to.. First thing to catch my attention wasn't a loss but a draw... to Keith Jardine...

    LOL here we go again. He was deducted a point for an upkick, thats the only reason the fight was a draw. You go ahead and tell me if this is a draw after you take a look at them post fight.

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    so tired of hearing about how he drew with keith jardine, that was about the most one sided beatdown I have seen in my life

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    2014 Fight Prediction Record: 56-24
    Favorite Fighters:
    HW: Blagoi Ivanov & Vitaly Minakov
    LHW: Daniel Cormier
    MW: Gegard Mousasi
    WW: Jake Shields & Dong Hyun Kim
    LW: Khabib Nurmagomadev
    FW: Tatsuya Kawajiri
    BW: Alex Caceres
    FLY: Ali Bagautinov

  • STANDYOURGROUNDSTANDYOURGROUND FloridaPosts: 124Free
    Right, cans like Mark Hunt, Jacare and Lombard. I mention those three because they will be recognizable to a casual like yourself. You can call it elitest to cover your own ignorance but almost anyone with any kind of perspective can tell you theat MMA doesn't begin and end with the UFC. Your perspective on top competiton is pretty skewed by almost any measure.

    I guess I just don't understand what you get out of denying this guy is a great fighter? Nobody here is claiming he is the GOAT but you seem almost emotionally invested in discrediting him for some reason. Is it so if he loses to Machida you can say you knew he was a can all along? As if losing to Machida makes you a **** tier fighter.
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  • xfatalstrifexxfatalstrifex Inside Your MomPosts: 371Free

    Ozpride said:

    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..

    you say you look into his fights and you **** goodle it?? Go and watch them before handing down sentence. He owned Jardine & Lawal and wouldve won without deductions.. Slap your damn self

    I mean Fedor's look pretty impressive as well and had a crazy record. Yet if I try to compare him to somewhat modern competition I'll take a mere look at the 5 fights he had from Arlovski to Henderson. 2-3. Decent considering that was tough competition. Yet pretty far from the 29-1 he had accumulated until then. And now he's back to crushing cans in Japan.
    because fedor didnt beat Nog twice, arlovski, sylvia, randleman, and coleman?? Werent they all former UFC champs??? Also basically ever professional MMA fighter calls him the GOAT.

    Maybe the hype is behind Mousasi cause he is the most technically sound and arguably best striker in all of the UFC. You like to talk about how he hasnt fought anyone but he has wins over Jacare who is the number 3 MW, and Mark Hunt who is the Number 8 HW.

    Dudes world class, and I will be laughing when you ride his jock and start claiming how big a fan you are after he steamrolls lyoto.

    You clearly have never heard the term styles make fights. IDC who mousasi has or hasnt beat compared to machida, this fight is gonna be taking place on the feet, where nobody in the entire sport has been able to best mousasi. Hell Mousasi outstruck kyotaro, the K-1 HW champ, who has identical striking to machida, yet you just assume machida is gonna win cause he has KO'd some glass jaw wrestlers with no striking??

    2014 Fight Prediction Record: 56-24
    Favorite Fighters:
    HW: Blagoi Ivanov & Vitaly Minakov
    LHW: Daniel Cormier
    MW: Gegard Mousasi
    WW: Jake Shields & Dong Hyun Kim
    LW: Khabib Nurmagomadev
    FW: Tatsuya Kawajiri
    BW: Alex Caceres
    FLY: Ali Bagautinov

  • OzprideOzpride Posts: 4,048Free

    Ozpride said:

    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..

    you say you look into his fights and you **** goodle it?? Go and watch them before handing down sentence. He owned Jardine & Lawal and wouldve won without deductions.. Slap your damn self
    Well that's the thing. I like to look at facts. And there's little value in looking someone own cans. That just tells me what I already know from his score : the guy is better than cans. At this point all I know is that he's a can crusher. Of course he's gonna look impressive. He's fighting low tier competition.

    If you don't know that non top 10 fighters can look impressive when they fight lower tier fighters then I don't know what to tell you. Not saying he can't win. I'm saying the hype on this guy is completely unjustified at this point because he hasn't been compared to the top guys.

    I mean Fedor's look pretty impressive as well and had a crazy record. Yet if I try to compare him to somewhat modern competition I'll take a mere look at the 5 fights he had from Arlovski to Henderson. 2-3. Decent considering that was tough competition. Yet pretty far from the 29-1 he had accumulated until then. And now he's back to crushing cans in Japan.

    All this hype is all about some guys who wanna pretend they're hardcore MMA fans by clinging to more underground circuits big names in hope to belong and feel special about it. Most of the time these long time underground lurking stars end up being disappointing when measured to the top of the pyramid. You guys just purposely disregard the fact that he's rather untested against top competition and call it for him, just in case that it happens to be that time when the broken clock is right.

    obvious Zuffa zombie is obvious.

    you just look at the facts.... if you don't watch the fights, your arguments are completely irrelevant, and therefor so is your opinion.

    There's a fact for you, have a good hard look. And slap yourself don't forget that.






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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
    edited February 15

    Right, cans like Mark Hunt, Jacare and Lombard. I mention those three because they will be recognizable to a casual like yourself. You can call it elitest to cover your own ignorance but almost anyone with any kind of perspective can tell you theat MMA doesn't begin and end with the UFC. Your perspective on top competiton is pretty skewed by almost any measure.

    I guess I just don't understand what you get out of denying this guy is a great fighter? Nobody here is claiming he is the GOAT but you seem almost emotionally invested in discrediting him for some reason. Is it so if he loses to Machida you can say you knew he was a can all along? As if losing to Machida makes you a **** tier fighter.

    never said he beat only cans. Though the wins you're talking about are fights that occured freagin' 5 years ago. Lombard happened 8 years ago. This win is about as relevant in determining who's the better fighter today as Jardine is to the UFC LHW title picture.

    Ozpride said:

    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..

    you say you look into his fights and you **** goodle it?? Go and watch them before handing down sentence. He owned Jardine & Lawal and wouldve won without deductions.. Slap your damn self

    I mean Fedor's look pretty impressive as well and had a crazy record. Yet if I try to compare him to somewhat modern competition I'll take a mere look at the 5 fights he had from Arlovski to Henderson. 2-3. Decent considering that was tough competition. Yet pretty far from the 29-1 he had accumulated until then. And now he's back to crushing cans in Japan.
    because fedor didnt beat Nog twice, arlovski, sylvia, randleman, and coleman?? Werent they all former UFC champs??? Also basically ever professional MMA fighter calls him the GOAT.

    Seems like you guys just can't acknowledge the fact that fighters evolve and that rocking top competition for the pas 2 or 3 years is far more relevant than beating whoever was relevant 6 years ago... Or even worse, whoever has become successful in latest years but wasn't that relevant at the time they were beaten.

    If you have to go back 5 years on a guy's resume to find a relevant name that's indication enough that his record is padded.

    So sure. Fedor beat Nog... fuckign 10 years ago. It's true that at one point in his career Fedor had been taking serious fights. Though criticism came when he started ducking the new crop. And when he finaly did, he didn't have much success at it. That's just normal at some point every guy gets surpassed by the evolution of the athletes. But that's a reality that his fans will never accept.

    So yeah sure I'm not saying Mousasi's a can or that he can't win. I'm saying that the evidence just isn't there to support that he's as good as many claim he is, especially since those of you who keep using the "zuffa zombie" accusation consistently trash UFC top fighters records for being padded.

    Just the fact that I get called out as zuffa zombie here and there in this thread proves my point. You guys actually have some sense of pride in calling it for non UFC fighters as if it made your balls bigger.
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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
    edited February 15
    Ozpride said:

    Ozpride said:

    a couple good wins in the distant past... as of late he doesn't seem to have done anything impressive and the fact that he got draw'd by Jardine is hard to get over...

    Jardine's 2-7-1 in his last 10 fights ffs. 2-7. And we all know his chin is glass now.... I don't know man.. I find it hard to give him that much credit for a win against Renato or Hunt that happened 5 years ago when in between there's been this Jardine incident... let alone muhammad..

    you say you look into his fights and you **** goodle it?? Go and watch them before handing down sentence. He owned Jardine & Lawal and wouldve won without deductions.. Slap your damn self
    Well that's the thing. I like to look at facts. And there's little value in looking someone own cans. That just tells me what I already know from his score : the guy is better than cans. At this point all I know is that he's a can crusher. Of course he's gonna look impressive. He's fighting low tier competition.

    If you don't know that non top 10 fighters can look impressive when they fight lower tier fighters then I don't know what to tell you. Not saying he can't win. I'm saying the hype on this guy is completely unjustified at this point because he hasn't been compared to the top guys.

    I mean Fedor's look pretty impressive as well and had a crazy record. Yet if I try to compare him to somewhat modern competition I'll take a mere look at the 5 fights he had from Arlovski to Henderson. 2-3. Decent considering that was tough competition. Yet pretty far from the 29-1 he had accumulated until then. And now he's back to crushing cans in Japan.

    All this hype is all about some guys who wanna pretend they're hardcore MMA fans by clinging to more underground circuits big names in hope to belong and feel special about it. Most of the time these long time underground lurking stars end up being disappointing when measured to the top of the pyramid. You guys just purposely disregard the fact that he's rather untested against top competition and call it for him, just in case that it happens to be that time when the broken clock is right.

    obvious Zuffa zombie is obvious.

    you just look at the facts.... if you don't watch the fights, your arguments are completely irrelevant, and therefor so is your opinion.

    There's a fact for you, have a good hard look. And slap yourself don't forget that.
    numbers are facts. how impressed you get at seeing him beat off the hill fighters and unknown 2nd tier competition isn't.
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    The only thing I got from this is you only like/support popular fighters

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  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    edited February 15
    The referee in the Mousasi/Jardine fight stopped the action 2 different times while Jardine was on his way out. He halted the action to give him his mouthpiece back at one point. Gegard beat the hell out of him.

    Mo Lawal spammed takedowns to beat Gegard. That was when strikeforce did not allow grounded elbows and Mousasi fighting off his back was out striking Mo about 5 to 1. Mo Lawal's eye was wrecked after 2 rounds and he couldn't stand on his own power when the fight was over. This was Mo Lawal before his knee injury and his takedowns were simply too powerful. He also probably had a ten to twelve pound weight advantage.

    Mousasi is legit if you don't realize that it's because you haven't even seen these fights. Don't start talking about a draw against Jardine when Mousasi mugged him in that fight. Up kick cost him a point but even that didn't make sense because he was destroying him in all rounds and like I said the ref was terrible.

    The ref in the Mousasi/Jardine fight did something similar to what the one in the Bigfoot/Hunt fight did. Hunt is bombing on Bigfoot in the last round and the ref jumps in so the doctor can check a cut. Mousasi had Jardine out on his feet and the ref jumps in so Jardine can get his mouthpiece back in the last round. In the first two rounds Jardine scored 6 takedowns but landed TWO strikes on the ground. Mousasi mauled him power strikes probably 80 to 10.
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  • SteelerNation43SteelerNation43 Posts: 12,653Free
    Mousasi hasn't been beaten in 8 years with 20+ fights (the Mo fight is horseshit.)


    He's beaten some great guys like Jacare, Lombard, Hunt but its true he hasn't fought top class yet. He deserves these top 10ers without a doubt.

    He may lose to Machida but from there i guarantee he'll maintain top 10.
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  • Frontline_RioterFrontline_Rioter Posts: 2,531Free
    I haven't watched the guy fight but I checked his wikipedia and therefore I am going to say he is not any good...

    What the **** is wrong with some of you people? Ridiculous
  • fourthnorsemanfourthnorseman Posts: 4,244Free
    Either you are a damn good troll or a complete **** retard OP. Still not sure which one... :-?
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    My milk shake bring all the boys to the yard, and they're like "Hondas **** is bigger than yours, damn right its bigger than yours." Step to the GOAT 12er and get clapped up knee grows.
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  • fourthnorsemanfourthnorseman Posts: 4,244Free
    Mo Lawal - was highest ranked wrestler in the US for 3 straight years. That means ANYBODY. He was THE best.

    Hector Lombard - former Olympic silver medalist in judo and deadly striker.

    Jacare Souza - 5 time world jiu jitsu champion and former strikeforce middleweight champ

    Mike Kyle - former LHW champ

    Babalu - former champ and ufc #1 contender

    Hunt, Sokodju, Kang, St Preux, Jardine, O'Brian, Goodridge all current or ex top UFC fighters.

    Do your homework fool. Gegard has one of the best resumes on the planet and he is only 28 years old.
  • 14er14er Posts: 27Free
    You know what Matt...

    Eff these guys and their holier than thou crap....

    How many guys watch other leagues when it comes to football.....very few I would imagine

    And as far as liking only popular fighter....how many of these guys like bands that aren't on the radio...

    Just do your thing man
  • Jason_H.Jason_H. Posts: 2,158Free
    He's been fighting cans this entire time. Machida is actually 3 or 4 levels above him. The fight will look like a master playing with his pupil in a playful sparring session.
    What??
  • Kevbo_JonesKevbo_Jones Posts: 15,694Free
    Lol, quite a few posters in this thread started watching MMA within the last year. It shows... Gegard is a beast. Always has been.

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  • MachidaSilvaMachidaSilva Posts: 402Free



    So now I look at Mousasi's record and of course the first thing I did is look for when was the last time he lost and who it was that he lost to.. First thing to catch my attention wasn't a loss but a draw... to Keith Jardine...

    LOL here we go again. He was deducted a point for an upkick, thats the only reason the fight was a draw. You go ahead and tell me if this is a draw after you take a look at them post fight.

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    so tired of hearing about how he drew with keith jardine, that was about the most one sided beatdown I have seen in my life

    If it was so one sided that one point shouldn't have mattered. He couldn't finish Keith Candine lol. Machida will clown Gegard.

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    The "Story" of the day is that OMOPLATAYPUS is the GOAT poster on this here forum. Blee dat.

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  • FuriousmatFuriousmat Posts: 4,044Free
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    Mousasi hasn't been beaten in 8 years with 20+ fights (the Mo fight is horseshit.)


    He's beaten some great guys like Jacare, Lombard, Hunt but its true he hasn't fought top class yet. He deserves these top 10ers without a doubt.

    He may lose to Machida but from there i guarantee he'll maintain top 10.

    well I totally agree that he would deserve to be fighting top 10 at this point

    I haven't watched the guy fight but I checked his wikipedia and therefore I am going to say he is not any good...

    What the **** is wrong with some of you people? Ridiculous

    never said he wasn't "any good" you guys are raging way too much over me saying he's most likely being overrated.


    As for his fight with JardineI just watched it and tbh it is true that he got lit up pretty bad and if that fight had to happen again I'd certainly put my money on Mousasi.. but the deduction was legit and Jardine took this fight on short notice. He was obviously exhausted for more than half the fight. Mousasi was technical in that fight but how much of his success is creditable by skill and how much to the fact that Jardine's "style" is food for any crisp striker.

    Still a fact that ambitious talent in MMA converges to the UFC and has been converging to the UFC for at least a decade. This may not be true forever but as of right now this has been the case pretty consistently. So when a guy is supposedly as good as the claims are for Mousasi and that the guy just lurks around for years it's suspicious enough to ask questions.
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