Dana White addresses sponsorship: ''It's not my f**king problem''

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"It's not my f--- problem," White said. "Getting sponsorship is a problem. It's tough. it's hard to do. That question is ridiculous. If a guy fights on Fight Pass, first of all, he's getting paid to fight. That's what he's getting paid for. That's what he does. How sponsorship works out for a guy is not my problem. That is not my problem. He's a fighter, he gets paid to fight, period, end of story. Whatever extra money he makes outside of the UFC with sponsors and all that s---, that's his f--- deal."
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/2/21/5432120/ufc-dana-white-addresses-sponsorhip-its-not-my-f-king-problem-mma-news

I think Dana basically said that it isn't his problem, when fighters can't pay their bills... smdh Dana, smdfh!
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  • Weidman__the__GreatWeidman__the__Great ModeratorPosts: 1,748Free
    what an egg.
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    Dana looked like he forgot to TRT in that scrum
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    Dana loses 10x what an entire card of prelim fighters make at casinos regularly
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    lol Dana mad






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  • TigerChampTigerChamp Nicolas CagePosts: 3,671Free
    this will come back to bite Zuffa in the **** long term.
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  • classicboxerclassicboxer Posts: 11,847Free
    When you have someone like that who doesn't give a **** about most of the fighters, and also is a heavy gambler, then the sport can easily be "manipulated".
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  • JbrahamsJbrahams Brisbane, AustraliaPosts: 11,783Ultimate
    Whether it is his problem or not, that's definitely not the right way to talk about it as the President. Dana is just coming off as such a **** lately
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  • MGunMGun GOATPosts: 3,140Free
    Dana can eat a fat cocksammich
  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,030Free
    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.
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  • cashflow247cashflow247 Posts: 1,866Ultimate
    waikru said:

    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

    Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

    As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.
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  • jdukjduk Posts: 8,293Free
    Dana's right, its not his problem.

    But maybe he should make it his problem
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  • LeitingLeiting Posts: 4,232Free

    waikru said:

    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

    Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

    As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.
    I know NBA has in the past considered going forward with corporate sponsorship, but I've not heard anything remotely close to definitive on the topic. And NBA needs to, because believe it or not, ownership of NBA teams is often times a losing endeavor...for that matter a number of MLB franchises lose money consistently every year.

    But this is not the right way to frame this - as obviously those are teams sports. For a while players weren't even allowed to wear individualized shoes on the court, but that was quite some time ago. Never the less, an individual player won't be able to chose his corporate sponsorship - it will be done on a team level. Just like in NASCAR or F-1, the team garners the sponsor deals, not the individual driver. The only thing we have to compare to MMA is boxing, which usually boxers get a couple of sponsors, but they don't litter their shorts with every last bit of advertising space they can come up with.

    I've long said that the legitimacy of the sport in hindered by guys going out there with low class CondomDepot.com ads on their crotch. Believe it or not, there are still a lot of socially conservative people who don't think the topic of prophylactic purchases should be flaunted on men and women who are serving as athletic role models. I fully agree with UFC's right to approve or disapprove of certain sponsors, however they're requiring $50,000+ payment seems high to me. I realize full well that in their mind, they broadcast the show, so they deserve a cut of the commercialization of it, but many fighters won't be able to attract sponsors to pay them if that kind of money is already going to the UFC.

    It's a tight rope. Do I think the UFC should be obligated to allow sponsorships? No. But at the same time, it's the difference between attracting tough guys who occasionally fight, and full time athletes who can financially be independent based on their fighting money alone. And, this is another case of Dana White not approaching the topic diplomatically, and spouting off profanities wrapped around an indifferent attitude toward the plight of others.
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  • waikruwaikru UFC PresidentPosts: 10,030Free

    waikru said:

    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

    Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

    As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.
    Like I said, the UFC doesn't need to create roadblocks for the fighters as it pertains to advertisements, but they are still offering more leniency than most top sports. Its yet to be seen if all major sports will allow athletes to decorate their uniforms with advertisements.
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  • wanderleisilva101wanderleisilva101 Posts: 9,433Free
    I love how whenever he's in the wrong instead of explaining **** to everyone he goes on a big angry rant that basically dodges the question.
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  • jdukjduk Posts: 8,293Free

    I love how whenever he's in the wrong instead of explaining **** to everyone he goes on a big angry rant that basically dodges the question.

    how is he in the wrong?
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  • UFCCagerattlerUFCCagerattler Posts: 16,195Free
    Love how Dana, who is so wide open and honest, won;t even talk about sponsorship.

    I guess the whole thing banning Clinch Gear had nothing to do with the UFC? There was never any problem with Hendo wearing Clinch Gear stuff in the UFC, because that's all up to the fighters.

    More crap from the crap factory..


    UFC is afraid to talk about real issues. They won' do it.

  • OmoplataypusOmoplataypus BostonPosts: 4,619Free
    What about the banners? Even if they go though with the uniform (which I think would suck) the sponser's logo will still be displayed on the banner, walkout tee, hats etc etc, just not the shorts.
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    There is a Swoosh on every major league uniform out there.

    Every single one of them.
  • cashflow247cashflow247 Posts: 1,866Ultimate
    edited February 21
    waikru said:

    waikru said:

    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

    Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

    As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.
    Like I said, the UFC doesn't need to create roadblocks for the fighters as it pertains to advertisements, but they are still offering more leniency than most top sports. Its yet to be seen if all major sports will allow athletes to decorate their uniforms with advertisements.
    That's inevitably what they're doing is creating unpassble roadblocks for fighters to gain advertisements! Back before they instated the advertisement fee of $50,000... fighters would pocket every dollar of what an advertising company wanted to put on their shorts, shirts, banners, etc. Now when they find a company wanting to give them $10,000(which for most undercard fighters EASILY cover their costs of training camp) for ads, that doesn't even cover the fee the UFC wants for allowing that fighter to advertise. Get it???

    And I guarantee you once Samsung, Microsoft, Nike, UA and companies like that start sinking 8-9 figure sums of money to put ads across the front of a jerseys in the NBA like they do in foreign soccer leagues, you will 110% for sure see the NFL, MLB, and NHL jump on board. Otherwise they're run by retarded chimpanzees. Not to mention, salaries in the NBA will jump to the highest per game almost immediately when it happens so the players in those other leagues will want the ads on their jerseys also. Get some business savvy, son.
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  • wanderleisilva101wanderleisilva101 Posts: 9,433Free
    jduk said:

    I love how whenever he's in the wrong instead of explaining **** to everyone he goes on a big angry rant that basically dodges the question.

    how is he in the wrong?
    Coz instead of taking the time to answer the question and explain to people the situation and how it works out best for the fighters on something alot of fans have been vocal about being against he goes on a little angry rant saying "it's not my **** problem" real professional way to handle it.
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  • cashflow247cashflow247 Posts: 1,866Ultimate
    @Leiting

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1667971-nba-will-reportedly-allow-teams-to-sell-and-display-ads-on-court-next-season

    The new commissioner doesn't want to show his hand. He's trying to say the NBA hasn't decided. Which means nobody has laid down $100,000,000 yet.
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    waikru said:

    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

    You talk about MMA fighters making extra money but you forget they only get 3 thin payments for year, while in most sports you get well paid monthly like every **** human being.
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  • LeitingLeiting Posts: 4,232Free

    @Leiting

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1667971-nba-will-reportedly-allow-teams-to-sell-and-display-ads-on-court-next-season

    The new commissioner doesn't want to show his hand. He's trying to say the NBA hasn't decided. Which means nobody has laid down $100,000,000 yet.

    I'm afraid you didn't read the article very closely my friend.

    "NBA teams, seeing the push for lucrative jersey advertising shelved, are getting two new areas inside their arenas as sources of revenue starting next season: on the court and atop the backboards."

    The idea to put logos on jerseys is shelved. That particular article addressed logos being places in front on benches or on the hardwood floor and backboards. So your original assertions of;

    As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements.

    Has been dis-proven by your own source material.
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  • SistiSisti Posts: 5,314Free
    Dude, it's your company, it's your problem. You have BILLIONS coming in, stop being a greedy guy and pay up
  • cashflow247cashflow247 Posts: 1,866Ultimate
    Leiting said:

    I'm afraid you didn't read the article very closely my friend.

    "NBA teams, seeing the push for lucrative jersey advertising shelved, are getting two new areas inside their arenas as sources of revenue starting next season: on the court and atop the backboards."

    The idea to put logos on jerseys is shelved. That particular article addressed logos being places in front on benches or on the hardwood floor and backboards. So your original assertions of;

    As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements.

    Has been dis-proven by your own source material.
    God forbid you go to google and type in something. I put up the wrong link, genius.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1266221-nba-will-place-advertising-on-jerseys-in-2013-in-smart-necessary-decision

    While no vote was taken on putting advertisements on jerseys for the first time, the discussion in the ballroom inside the Encore hotel on the Strip showed a strong preference to move forward, deputy commissioner Adam Silver said. The final decision will likely come in an e-mail vote in September and be implemented for 2013-14, giving teams the chance to line up sponsors and uniform makers the time to add the patch of 2.5 inches-by-2.5 inches just above the heart.

    The bold print, son. The big giant quote.

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  • cashflow247cashflow247 Posts: 1,866Ultimate
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    Another bold quote on the article:

    “My sense is that every team would do this in some form,” Silver said, indicating the mass support for the idea that has been years in coming, not to mention the mass support for the $100 million annually he estimates would be generated with the new revenue stream.

    And before you poop you diaper and try to act like I'm totally wrong and making **** up, google a couple more articles. They're going to start with a tiny ad on the front and work their way up to full on soccer jerseys. The date is so long ago because this is Adam Silver's idea. He just became commissioner at the All-Star break last Friday.
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  • LeitingLeiting Posts: 4,232Free
    @cashflow247, I have researched the topic matter, hence my original statement that while it had been discussed, nothing definitive had been reached. Which you presented it as a foregone conclusion. This new link you've proved it actually from 2012, older than the original link that said it had been shelved from 2013. The vote went through sir, it failed. Corporate logos are not going on jerseys next year, or any time until something new changes. I'm sorry, but you are incorrect on this discussion point.

    You seem to be upset by something I've said. I'm sorry if I've offended you, I don't believe I've said anything disrespectful other than to disprove something you claimed was fact.
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  • cashflow247cashflow247 Posts: 1,866Ultimate
    @leiting , Adam Silver is quoted in that article. He just became commissioner last Friday. David Stern was not on board with the idea. Silver was the one who was leading the charge, hence it taking so long.
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  • UFCCagerattlerUFCCagerattler Posts: 16,195Free
    waikru said:

    The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

    They all get Nike money. That's the only money that matters.
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