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  1. Welcome_to_Moe's

    How do you guys feel Ben Askren will do in the UFC?

    As you guys know Ben Askren is about to make his UFC debut in the octagon at UFC 223, however I was wondering how you guys felt he will do within the UFC? Of course I know it's a case of we'll have to see, see how his debut goes first though how do you feel his chances fair and who would you guys like to see him go up against after Lawler? Also, thoughts on Lawler being the debut fight for Askren? I look forward to hearing from you guys
  2. I was just thinking about this cause as we know Darren Till had a pretty fast rise in the UFC when it came to getting his shot against Woodley, sure he was undefeated but I did hear quite a lot of people saying they felt he was thrown in to the mix too quick which as we know Tyron quickly stopped that and Darren tapped out to receive his first loss. Now, he's got Masvidal in London however this is probably not going to be a fight that brings Till back up for them in their opinion, so who do you feel Till should go up against to get himself back in the game for you personally? I know Till has made no excuses about his loss, however he has been calling out a few people recently, specially Ben Askren who he's been on to for a while. Darren can easily come back from this loss, it's the first loss in his career and he's got a lot ahead for him and he said something about wanting to aim more towards the middleweight class for his fights. His quote: So what do you guys think, who would you put Till up against to bring back his momentum and build himself up for another title shot?
  3. I know many people like the whole slug fests and of course we like to see the finish but if you remember the Gregor Gillespie fight recently against Yancy Medeiros the crowd gave a few boo's which Gregor wasn't completely sure why. I was watching this video of him a few days after the fight and I wondered how you guys felt not only about this fight but these kind of fights in general? Just listen to up until 1:23 in regards to what Gregor is saying before you add your thoughts. So what do you guys think? Do you find them boring or do you enjoy these type of fights? Would you have boo'd this fight had you have been in the arena? Why do you think the crowd was booing here? I look forward to hearing from some of you.
  4. That's fair enough, it's obviously a subjective thing that's all.
  5. Welcome_to_Moe's

    How do you guys feel Ben Askren will do in the UFC?

    That is quality!!
  6. As the title says, who do you feel had the toughest road to a title shot? Some of the names that may be thrown in the mix Cerrone, Ferguson, Khabib, Bisping and Holloway though maybe you agree/disagree and have other fighters you feel deserve this credit however you discuss. So which fighters do you feel had the toughest road to earning that title shot? ------ Edit: Added this as it's giving the reasons for some of the suggested fighters people may bring up.
  7. Is that really the case here? That's a bit silly if so, I either like a fighter or don't regardless of where they're from and also even if I'm not so keen on a fighter I'll still give credit due and take on points etc.. I don't discuss from a favourable or non favourable point of view but just neutral cause obviously that can influence and doesn't contribute. Also @ Los_Polo_Hermano, instead of just adding a laughing emoji to my reply (which had some valid points), why not discuss it unless you're not able to do that? If you disagree that's fine but adding a laughing emoji just tells me you have nothing to say and can't disagree with me.
  8. I agree with you, but Till did say he wanted to feel him out for a few rounds which is where his mistake was, he didn't expect Woodley to go in with the submission but there's only Till to blame for that hence why I say to learn from it. Yeah, there's definitely as gradual build needed for Till, absolutely. That's the thing they probably pushed him into the main event way too soon, he should have had a lot more fights and build up to gain those credible wins more before being thrust into the main event with Woodley. I wasn't surprised Woodley beat him, it was kinda expected but I did think Till would have done better than he did, again, I just feel Till thought he could lay back on it for a few rounds without expecting Woodley to take him out with a submission, not really a clever idea in the first place but like I say, it's all learning curve ain't it and most fighters go through this at some point within their career. He's got a lot ahead of him has Till anyway so it's all good. Edit: Till talking about this two weeks ago if anyone fancies a watch.
  9. Disagree, he's not going to go to the prelims anyway so we might as well look into who we feel he should fight to gain the credit/momentum back. The thing with Till in regards to that fight is he shouldn't have tried to gauge Woodley expecting it to last a few rounds as Woodley just took him down and got him and Till just didn't have a chance, too laid back apparently but still, no excuses, Till lost and that's that. However this is why he needs to be given that fight to see if he can cut it/learn from the mistake he made within the Woodley fight, if not, then we'll talk about him going back to the prelims as as of now, one loss doesn't mean you should be sent straight back to the prelims. Let the guy rectify his loss, if not, then the prelims thing may be a thing.
  10. Nah, I don't agree with the prelims thing, though he does need a credible fight for him to gain the credit again which I think he will. I reckon that loss to Woodley really fired him up so it would make sense to give him that fight while he's got this fire in his belly.
  11. Apart from of course the live events I do love watching quite a few of the UFC shows and I would love to know which shows you enjoy watching outside the live events and why? For me, I have a few however some of my favourites are as follows. UFC Now This tends to be mainly Karyn Bryant, Alan Jouban and Cub Swanson (or Kenny Florian) most recently however they do have the odd guests such as Tatiana Suarez who was on last night though the good thing about the show is they break it down into so many sections, discuss fighters and fights, they'll have a top 5 segment where they'll choose their top five in regards to the criteria that week, a multiple choice quiz where the guests will go up against each other and then they'll have fan Q&A's at the end which are really good. I find the guests are really insightful and you learn a lot from them which I think is great, I do feel this show is the best UFC show out there and I just find it really enjoyable. Inside The Octagon I really love listening to Dan Hardy's analysis before a fight as he really breaks it down and has such a fountain of knowledge too in regards to the UFC. He'll bring up points and strategies the fighters have which you may not have noticed and it's just a real great show altogether, Dan breaks things down so fantastically well and I do like the analysis that he brings as it's always very insightful. UFC Unleashed This will often be around four fights to look back on which you may have forgotten or maybe not even seen so is always good to either refresh your UFC history or to even learn a little from this also. UFC Connected Another really great show which often gives a unique look to exclusive access with the fighters and there's often a few pretty good interviews before the up and coming fights such as Israel Adesanya recently. You tend to see quite a lot of exclusive stuff on this show and it's just great. There are of course shows such as Ariel Helwani's show which is around online etc.. however these are the shows I tend to watch on TV the most and was wondering which shows you guys enjoyed the most when it come to UFC programming outside of the live events?
  12. Welcome_to_Moe's

    Which UFC shows do you like the best? (Apart from the live events)

    Gotta get that pay day!
  13. I was just gonna say the same thing, I'd actually quite like to see that.
  14. Hi guys, I'm new to the forum here though am a big UFC fan, one of my favourite fighters being Al Iaquinta and was wondering what you guys felt to Al and his rise within the UFC as well as of course who you would like to see him fight next? As we know, Al went up against Khabib, took the fight on a days notice for 5 rounds, went as far as he did without being prepared and then into his recent fight with Kevin Lee really does speak volumes and I do feel (personally) Al is a little underrated and doesn't always get the credit he deserves sometimes. He seems a little lost in the midst with the fighters and matches which is understandable considering that the division is so locked up with guys such as Poirier, Ferguson, etc.. in the mix with the whole Khabib thing but I do feel Al has got himself to a place now where he deserves a big fight, even the Conor thing I feel would make sense specially considering they have a common opponent in Khabib so I would like to see that happen and then the winner can get the rematch with Khabib (or whoever has the title at that point) so the best man gets the best man if that makes sense? Al always shows up to fight and I think people respect him for that, he did have a knee injury which kept him out for a little while but he's definitely got himself in the conversation now and he does seem to do a good job in regards to keeping himself relevant in between fights and he is a tough guy so I was wondering what the general consensus was in regards to things here? I'd really like to see him fight more often though I was wondering what you guys felt in regards to this? I'm guessing Poirier would be an obvious choice with him being just above Al in the lightweight division and of course Tony looking to be the most obvious with Khabib (depending on this whole situation of course) but I would actually like to see Al get the Conor fight to be honest simply because of what I mentioned above (I know Conor is possibly looking at the Cerrone fight and doubt he has much interest in fighting Al at the moment) however I do feel that it would be a fair fight rather than any of them just being given the rematch or title shot and me personally, would love to see. There's a good little clip of Al talking about it here and I can't say I disagree with him, however what are your thoughts in regards to this and general consensus round here? I would love to hear. Hope all's well and hope to hear from some of you soon
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    Who would you guys put up for Al Iaquinta next & thoughts on his rise in the UFC?

    It's all confusing is this but I can't really gauge where this is going, I know nothing is set in stone but I keep hearing about the Cerrone fight too that it's like, I guess it's down to who Conor chooses. This is why like I say, although I have nothing against the Cerrone fight (I like Cowboy) but with the whole Khabib thing and this interim no doubt being a thing it would make sense for Conor to fight someone there and then at least no one is going to get left behind to some degree where as if he's tied up with Cowboy, we've got someone left behind which is no doubt going to be Al (who wants to fight around April time I believe) and Dustin also I can understand completely. Al probably should go up against Dustin next although I know Dustin is wanting that bigger fight but so is Al so maybe they should fight to earn it, sure it's another fight to climb the ranks but this is UFC so, they should go at it. Although as mentioned in the OP, I do feel Al has good reason to go up against Conor, it just makes a lot of sense however I don't think Conor has much interest in fighting Al so it's all a bit up in the air lately. Of course there's also Gaethje wanting Al too for a while now which is obviously beneficial for Gaethje though he's got his fight with Barboza coming up so I think that was a pretty good decision at this moment in time. I guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out.
  16. Yeah, these are the kind of things I hear often in regards to Till, hence why I wondered what you guys would like to see for Till to gain the credit? I can understand people having these sentiments for sure, as a lot of people have felt the same. Is there anyone in particular you'd like to see him go up against to try build this or any fights you'd like to see?
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    We might be seeing more of Johnny Walker sooner than we think

    I'm interested to see how he does, I'm not on the hype train as such but I am intrigued to see how he gets on, I think he could be quite surprising.
  18. Welcome_to_Moe's

    Which UFC shows do you like the best? (Apart from the live events)

    Are all these shows you mentioned on your regular TV or are they on'e you have to watch online or fight pass etc.. obviously the genuine one's of course. Do any of you guys enjoy Cub Swanson, Alan Jouban and Dan Hardy's insights?
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    We might be seeing more of Johnny Walker sooner than we think

    I look forward to it. Doesn't surprise me this fight was quickly confirmed, people want to see Walker fight so I say bring it on.
  20. Welcome_to_Moe's

    We might be seeing more of Johnny Walker sooner than we think

    I can see Walker rising up the rankings pretty fast and it wouldn't be out of place if he did either, looking at the LHW I'm not really sure which fight would appeal to me more, it's a case of which is good and which isn't and which appeals to people, if of course he's going to go straight in and fight a ranked opponent which I wouldn't be completely opposed to. I wouldn't mind seeing him go up against Gus at some point either if he continues to impress but let him have the Cirkunov fight first, people seem to be quite excited about this guy.
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    Who would you guys put up for Al Iaquinta next & thoughts on his rise in the UFC?

    Seems to be the case with a lot of fighters doesn't it? Specially when the division gets so tied up, I mean within the LW we've got the whole Khabib thing, so if the interim goes the Tony is tied up within that which is probably where Dustin will go as we've got Conor going on about the whole Cerrone thing which leaves Al at 4th and probably where he feels frustrated considering Conor is choosing to fight Cerrone who's 9th in the rankings. If of course for some reason Khabib fights and this whole things sorts itself out then we've got Tony fighting there, Conor is still going for Cerrone no matter what and that would leave Al to fight Dustin while all that goes on and then the winner of that would obvious then surely get the title shot. This whole Khabib situation has caused a bit of a mess really hasn't it? I honestly feel he should, like he says in the video in the OP there's no reason why Conor should get an automatic rematch with Khabib other than the fact he brings in the money (which I get it, it's a business but it's also a competition), Conor was knocking Al during the build up with Khabib, Al did go the distance with Khabib no matter how people try to put a spin on that, he did and in around a days notice when Conor had how long to prepare? (I can't even remember) but he had time anyway and he tapped out so let Conor and Al have the fight, they have the common opponent and then have the winner go on to fight Khabib or whoever is holding the title at that point cause again this whole Khabib situation has thrown a spanner in the works hasn't it. It'll all sort out but my guess is Al is probably going to fight Dustin next but Dustin seems to be kicking and screaming about wanting more now, Al said something in agreement to him with the contracts but he also said to him to just sign the contract, it's him or no one so Al seems a little more along the lines of lets do this but of course Dustin is just above Al in the rankings where as it's the other way round for Dustin so he wants the big shot (which I get it). The other thing is the Gaethje vs Al fight, obviously as it stands now this isn't really that beneficial to Al other than it would be a great win under his belt if he was to beat Gaethje, but there's more in it for Gaethje than Al considering Gaethje is 7th at the moment so I can understand Al also really not being interested in that fight at the moment. Honestly, this whole Khabib thing has really messed things up a little but he obviously feels how he feels so that's that, but should Dustin take the fight with Al and then let him get the big shot if he wins Al while the others have their fights or should he continue to stand his ground to get what he wants? I guess that's subjective but it works the same for Al too with the Gaethje thing and even the Dustin fight to a degree as it's not the biggest shot he wanted but I guess they're just going to have to give and take a little while this stuff sorts itself out and they can go from there. Dustin vs Tony (Interim) Conor vs Cerrone (looking likely) Al vs Gaethje (which isn't ideal for Al and Gaethje has his fight coming up, so may hold out) I dunno, all depends if Dustin gets that Interim too or does fight Al first but then who does Tony fight, it's a bit up in the air, if only Conor would stick to fighting the higher rankings too and fight either Dustin, Al or Tony and then the rest could sort itself out but it's Conor though and if he wants the Cerrone fight (which I have nothing against) then Conor will get the Cerrone fight. I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out.
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    Dana going full DANA raw footage. G chit

    But isn't that Cejudo's belt he's carrying lol I saw this by the way in regards to that with Dana etc.. lol Edit: 4:44 Dana mentions that lol
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    Who would you guys put up for Al Iaquinta next & thoughts on his rise in the UFC?

    Yeeeah, I hear you on that. It's so locked up right now there isn't it and of course with Khabib and this interim thing he's kind of lost in the midst a little there which must be quite frustrating. I guess Al will just have to have this fight, say with Gaethje or Barboza like you say and then go from there, he's just gonna have to have another fight before he gets the fight he wants simply due to how locked up it is, Dustin demanding with his contracts, the Khabib situation, Connor with Cerrone, I dunno, it does seem like it's quite frustrating but I do hope Al gets that big fight he deserves cause I do feel he's earned it now. A lot of people don't give Al the credit sometimes and he's earned his stripes so hopefully he'll get that big fight he deserves so he can build himself up even more in the rankings and then eventually earn the title shot as this would be good to see.
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    Who would you guys put up for Al Iaquinta next & thoughts on his rise in the UFC?

    Same Al lol Yeah, Conor's not going to entertain it at the moment, not with the whole Cerrone thing going on etc.. too but I guess Dustin would be good for Al as he's the one left in the rankings a little less tied up (apart from what you mentioned just there of course). I just feel Al deserves that big fight now and where as I'd love to see the Gaethje fight (as I think it would be a great fight) apart from it being a great win under Al's belt (if he was to win) then he's probably not going to want that either and I guess this goes for Conor not wanting to fight Al for the same reason though he does want to fight Cerrone so I dunno. That's why I thought it would be interesting to see what you guys thought in regards to who he should fight next, you add some really great insights here.
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