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13 hours ago, VertFTW said:

LOL you dont think they are handling different materials on same tables?

No...chance...in...hell.....

There is no reason to even use a steroid to cut coke.. what would be the benefit? Like legit... no benefit and the cost would be astronomical to other options 

 

Also steroids have been around since the 30s.. that particular one has been around for 40 plus years.. we know everything about what the effects and residuals would be... its expensive and hard to get.. 

 

Also his levels were HIGHER THAN HIS 2017 FAIL... so pulsing long term residuals my ****... 

 

**** this cheating, pole smashing, drunk driving, knee kicking, eye poking, steroid taking(in competition) coke sniffing, pedophile!!!

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12 minutes ago, Eclipse76 said:

No...chance...in...hell.....

There is no reason to even use a steroid to cut coke.. what would be the benefit? Like legit... no benefit and the cost would be astronomical to other options 

 

Also steroids have been around since the 30s.. that particular one has been around for 40 plus years.. we know everything about what the effects and residuals would be... its expensive and hard to get.. 

 

Also his levels were HIGHER THAN HIS 2017 FAIL... so pulsing long term residuals my ****... 

 

**** this cheating, pole smashing, drunk driving, knee kicking, eye poking, steroid taking(in competition) coke sniffing, pedophile!!!

You dont think they use the same surfaces to prep different products?

Im Not saying they are cutting coke with roids 

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25 minutes ago, VertFTW said:

You dont think they use the same surfaces to prep different products?

Im Not saying they are cutting coke with roids 

No. It is also a completely different process to make coke as too do steroids.  And the money made on coke would far outweigh the amount on roids... also that one is expensive to make and rare. There are better options by far

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16 minutes ago, VertFTW said:

You dont think they use the same surfaces to prep different products?

Im Not saying they are cutting coke with roids 

Vert I like you but you probably weigh 100 pounds, let king Eclipse educate the dummies here on being jacked 

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14 minutes ago, Eclipse76 said:

No. It is also a completely different process to make coke as too do steroids.  And the money made on coke would far outweigh the amount on roids... also that one is expensive to make and rare. There are better options by far

So you are saying criminals use pharma grade processes to handle their product. Ok got it

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18 minutes ago, VertFTW said:

So you are saying criminals use pharma grade processes to handle their product. Ok got it

If they want a semblance of continuity or return customers then some checks and balances for quality are set up. Yup.

Now just agree he's a cheat can and should die in a car fire.. stop arguing semantics or I will come through the interwebs and slap a bich 

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4 hours ago, Eclipse76 said:

No...chance...in...hell.....

There is no reason to even use a steroid to cut coke.. what would be the benefit? Like legit... no benefit and the cost would be astronomical to other options 

 

Also steroids have been around since the 30s.. that particular one has been around for 40 plus years.. we know everything about what the effects and residuals would be... its expensive and hard to get.. 

 

Also his levels were HIGHER THAN HIS 2017 FAIL... so pulsing long term residuals my ****... 

 

**** this cheating, pole smashing, drunk driving, knee kicking, eye poking, steroid taking(in competition) coke sniffing, pedophile!!!

 

yeah man i hear you. **** that guy

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Idyb may have already done all of this math but:

The half life of Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone is 16 hours.  499 days passed between the initial failure and this failure.   

I cooked up this equation:

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Concentration as a function of time,

- C_0 is the initial concentration of Turinabol

- t is hours elapsed,

- T is the half-life period. 

Feel free to let me know if I modeled that incorrectly.

So, 499 days is 11976 hours, so you plug that in for little t, then 16 hours for the big T.  Just to see what would happen I set the initial concentration to 1 GRAM, which is many orders of magnitude higher than his July 2017 levels were. His initial failure was 20-80 picograms, so if you want to plug that in for the initial concentration, I picogram = 10^-12 of a gram or 0.000000000001 grams.  

If I use 1 gram as my starting point, my TI-36x Pro says that the answer is zero.  I double checked it with my TI-84 CE and it also said zero.  Obviously the answer isn't zero but it's infinitesimally small.  

If I use Symbolab it says the answer is approximately 4.77582 x 10^-226.  Insanely small.  AND THAT'S USING 1 GRAM.  If I do 80 picograms (0.00000000008) that comes out to roughly 3.82066 x 10^-236 grams remaining.  

Combine that with the fact that he tested negative 24 hours after his initial failure? Obvious fuсkery IMO 

 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2730950-jon-jones-reportedly-passed-ufc-214-drug-test-24-hours-after-positive-test

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5 minutes ago, sobercuban said:

Idyb may have already done all of this math but:

The half life of Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone is 16 hours.  499 days passed between the initial failure and this failure.   

I cooked up this equation:

image.png.ffa4aed8733eee2255675feb246d1a46.png

Concentration as a function of time,

- C_0 is the initial concentration of Turinabol

- t is hours elapsed,

- T is the half-life period. 

Feel free to let me know if I modeled that incorrectly.

So, 499 days is 11976 hours, so you plug that in for little t, then 16 hours for the big T.  Just to see what would happen I set the initial concentration to 1 GRAM, which is many orders of magnitude higher than his July 2017 levels were. His initial failure was 20-80 picograms, so if you want to plug that in for the initial concentration, I picogram = 10^-12 of a gram or 0.000000000001 grams.  

If I use 1 gram as my starting point, my TI-36x Pro says that the answer is zero.  I double checked it with my TI-84 CE and it also said zero.  Obviously the answer isn't zero but it's infinitesimally small.  

If I use Symbolab it says the answer is approximately 4.77582 x 10^-226.  Insanely small.  AND THAT'S USING 1 GRAM.  If I do 80 picograms (0.00000000008) that comes out to roughly 3.82066 x 10^-236 grams remaining.  

Combine that with the fact that he tested negative 24 hours after his initial failure? Obvious fuсkery IMO 

 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2730950-jon-jones-reportedly-passed-ufc-214-drug-test-24-hours-after-positive-test

 

Some next level nerd **** 

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Also:

Unless my math is totally wrong, in order for him to have even a single picogram in his system after 11976 hours he would have originally had to have a concentration of 2.1 x 10^213 grams in his system.  That is about 4.3 x 10^65 kilograms.  

For reference, our sun weighs 1.989 x 10^30 kilograms

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i dont think it is a case of being the same trace element but an even smaller trace amount has appeared which was absent from tests prior and after, such a small trace amount once again in his system at such a micro dose is signifying the same source of tainted supplement and this time the ufc decided jones was the only real draw for this card, without him the card had to be scrapped and they didn't want to have to scrap 2 cards in a row.

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5 hours ago, Eclipse76 said:

If they want a semblance of continuity or return customers then some checks and balances for quality are set up. Yup.

Now just agree he's a cheat can and should die in a car fire.. stop arguing semantics or I will come through the interwebs and slap a bich 

agreed

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11 hours ago, sobercuban said:

Idyb may have already done all of this math but:

The half life of Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone is 16 hours.  499 days passed between the initial failure and this failure.   

I cooked up this equation:

image.png.ffa4aed8733eee2255675feb246d1a46.png

Concentration as a function of time,

- C_0 is the initial concentration of Turinabol

- t is hours elapsed,

- T is the half-life period. 

Feel free to let me know if I modeled that incorrectly.

So, 499 days is 11976 hours, so you plug that in for little t, then 16 hours for the big T.  Just to see what would happen I set the initial concentration to 1 GRAM, which is many orders of magnitude higher than his July 2017 levels were. His initial failure was 20-80 picograms, so if you want to plug that in for the initial concentration, I picogram = 10^-12 of a gram or 0.000000000001 grams.  

If I use 1 gram as my starting point, my TI-36x Pro says that the answer is zero.  I double checked it with my TI-84 CE and it also said zero.  Obviously the answer isn't zero but it's infinitesimally small.  

If I use Symbolab it says the answer is approximately 4.77582 x 10^-226.  Insanely small.  AND THAT'S USING 1 GRAM.  If I do 80 picograms (0.00000000008) that comes out to roughly 3.82066 x 10^-236 grams remaining.  

Combine that with the fact that he tested negative 24 hours after his initial failure? Obvious fuсkery IMO 

 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2730950-jon-jones-reportedly-passed-ufc-214-drug-test-24-hours-after-positive-test

 

There is a flaw in your approach. Half life is based on probability, not certainty. A more correct approach would be to model the half life as a binomial distribution and calculate the probability that he had the alleged amount in his system after 499 hours. 

Once you have that number, all we need to do is compare that with the probability that Jones/Dana are a pair of lying POS and we will have a clear conclusion. 

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2 hours ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

There is a flaw in your approach. Half life is based on probability, not certainty. A more correct approach would be to model the half life as a binomial distribution and calculate the probability that he had the alleged amount in his system after 499 hours. 

Once you have that number, all we need to do is compare that with the probability that Jones/Dana are a pair of lying POS and we will have a clear conclusion. 

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After all these years I finally believe that Jon Jones is a serial PED cheater.

Part of me still wants to see Jones vs DC 3, but it'd be nice to see Jones get KTFO by Gustafsson to bring him down a peg. Even my guy McGregor deserved some comeuppance by the dame called Life and Jones is long overdue for it

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Gentlemen, I too wish to sound intellectually superior therefore I have done comprehensive revisions of the numberic values, done the sciences repeatedly and all variables consistently lead to the same conclusive result that Jon Jones did things. 

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22 hours ago, Eclipse76 said:

No. It is also a completely different process to make coke as too do steroids.  And the money made on coke would far outweigh the amount on roids... also that one is expensive to make and rare. There are better options by far

 

See @19:00 🤔🤔

 

 

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1 hour ago, VertFTW said:

 

See @19:00 🤔🤔

 

 

I knew you'd bring up creatine.. but you're also missing where he said in the video in most cases in his findings that creatine was safer than other products for being contaminated..

 

Even when Rogan asks if it was in the coke he said that chance was small cause of creatine being hard to mess up... but this is all smoke and mirrors anyways cause the end result is they both work for the UFC with vested interest to keep their fighter looking good and the company on the up and up... so I couldn't give 2 chits what he says in this video.. it's not unbiased.. where as the numbers dont lie.. nore the multi failed tests ..

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Also they admit they dont know a lot about it yet personally.. but that it should show short or mid term not long term metabolism... however they dont know the short term or mid term lifespan...they gloss over it... it literally can be days and weeks... so he can be using over and over and only show long term residuals...

 

Now Jones said on the Ariel interview that the long term can last up to 7 years?!?! Bahahahah what kind of bull chit they using..... that is completely unprovable 

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On 12/27/2018 at 10:28 AM, VertFTW said:

So you are saying criminals use pharma grade processes to handle their product. Ok got it

MOTHER****ERS ARE INJECTING THEIR PRODUCT INTO THEIR BODIES. YES, THEY DO IT IN A STERILE ENVIRONMENT, YOU ****ING NUMBSKULL.

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23 minutes ago, sobercuban said:

Now they're saying that Jon failed tests in August and September too, but it was kept under wraps 

Yah. AMUERA,  America  and I  were discussing in the other thread... it's a joke..

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51 minutes ago, cashfl0w said:

MOTHER****ERS ARE INJECTING THEIR PRODUCT INTO THEIR BODIES. YES, THEY DO IT IN A STERILE ENVIRONMENT, YOU ****ING NUMBSKULL.

you arent understanding the point I am trying to make.

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46 minutes ago, sobercuban said:

Now they're saying that Jon failed tests in August and September too, but it was kept under wraps 

Elaborate please. I just got hard.

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5 minutes ago, sobercuban said:

m8

nobody understands the point you're trying to make

Cross contamination/trace elements of products is a difficult to grasp subject???? go to JRE talk with Novitsky min 19 - 22 to hear the explanation about this theory.

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4 minutes ago, I_Take_Roids_m8 said:

Elaborate please. I just got hard.

Yep, he failed previous tests but bried the results.  

Here's the article on it:

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/12/28/18158523/ufc-232-novitzky-jon-jones-tested-positive-turinabol-august-september-mma-news

Two test fails in August and September, for various picogram levels of Turinabol.  

Seems suspicious that September was when USADA announced that they would no longer disclose doping violations until arbitration was complete.  Being that Jon popped on Sept 18th and they announced the change a few days later.

There's the article on that:

https://www.mmamania.com/2018/9/29/17917284/ufc-changes-usada-policy-will-no-longer-announce-violations-before-case-is-resolved-mma-white

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3 minutes ago, VertFTW said:

Cross contamination/trace elements of products is a difficult to grasp subject???? go to JRE talk with Novitsky min 19 - 22 to hear the explanation about this theory.

You're an idiot. 

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1 minute ago, sobercuban said:

Maybe if you keep saying the same stupid **** over and over someone will finally acknowledge you. 

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Sad that he has to nuthug a POS since his own countrymen are cans. 

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The amount of tinfoil hatting in this thread is disturbing. All these life long academics cited in Novitzky's interview who don't benefit in any way are going to risk their entire career for some nagger who human cawk fights for a living. Seems legit

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Just now, OzStraya said:

The amount of tinfoil hatting in this thread is disturbing. All these life long academics cited in Novitzky's interview who don't benefit in any way are going to risk their entire career for some nagger who human cawk fights for a living. Seems legit

I know in socialist Australia doesnt mean much because most of you live on 3 cents a week out of your pay, but anyone can be bribed.

 

And isn't Jeff an accountant?  Lol

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3 minutes ago, sobercuban said:

Maybe if you keep saying the same stupid **** over and over someone will finally acknowledge you. 

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Lol xx

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1 minute ago, OzStraya said:

The amount of tinfoil hatting in this thread is disturbing. All these life long academics cited in Novitzky's interview who don't benefit in any way are going to risk their entire career for some nagger who human cawk fights for a living. Seems legit

U got millions like JJ ? He's the MMA HILLARY CLINTON creating conspiracies then playing them off on camera full of excuses. He deserves 1 of those actor awards and a clinton foundation or something.

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3 minutes ago, I_Take_Roids_m8 said:

I know in socialist Australia doesnt mean much because most of you live on 3 cents a week out of your pay, but anyone can be bribed.

 

And isn't Jeff an accountant?  Lol

Even more reason he wouldn't put his entire career on the line for a black felon

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2 minutes ago, PakaL said:

U got millions like JJ ? He's the MMA HILLARY CLINTON creating conspiracies then playing them off on camera full of excuses. He deserves 1 of those actor awards and a clinton foundation or something.

Oh excellent someone put the Pakal bat symbol in the air by screeching at the sky

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3 minutes ago, OzStraya said:

Oh excellent someone put the Pakal bat symbol in the air by screeching at the sky

At least Pakal is putting original thought into his posts and not spamming 'ur salty' while simultaneously bringing nothing to the discussion.  How do you manage to pull that off? 

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