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The ball damaged an artery in the back of his skull and the bleeding stopped oxygen getting to his brain

YIKES.

 

This idiot news network I'm watching is putting half the story at the bottom of the screen in it's crawl. It says he got hit in the head, despite the host saying it was the neck, in the most basic description ever. The most confusing part is that this happened on Tuesday, and we didn't hear a thing about it until just now. Then I saw the Australian PM commented on it, and I was triple confused. If it was this important, why not mention it a few days ago?

 

But just for clarification of how big of a joke our news media is: I find out most of the major details around the riots on here. From foreigners. I.E. -Richard posting that the autopsy specialist, in the case that has our entire country rioting, was a phony.   :(   

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The press conference this afternoon was genuinely heartbreaking. Seeing everyone fight back tears. And once again just want to say I hope that Sean Abbott gets through this terrible accident.

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YIKES.

 

This idiot news network I'm watching is putting half the story at the bottom of the screen in it's crawl. It says he got hit in the head, despite the host saying it was the neck, in the most basic description ever. The most confusing part is that this happened on Tuesday, and we didn't hear a thing about it until just now. Then I saw the Australian PM commented on it, and I was triple confused. If it was this important, why not mention it a few days ago?

 

But just for clarification of how big of a joke our news media is: I find out most of the major details around the riots on here. From foreigners. I.E. -Richard posting that the autopsy specialist, in the case that has our entire country rioting, was a phony.   :(   

The reason it may have taken so long was probably because everyone was hoping for the best after he underwent surgery, and were told it wold be around 48 hours before the doctors would know if the surgery was successful, which happened to be this afternoon local time. 

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I googled it. Cricket balls are harder than baseballs. Hence the possibility of death being greater. 

 

Respect level for cricket raised. But I still couldn't watch it if I wanted to. Not a single cricket game aired over here.  :(

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to say this is a shock is an understatement

 

when you consider the bodyline series and the days with no helmets and bouncers coming down at 90 mph, how have more people not suffered the same fate?

 

just goes to show no matter how stupid you think you look, a helmet is given to you for a reason

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I googled it. Cricket balls are harder than baseballs. Hence the possibility of death being greater. 

 

Respect level for cricket raised. But I still couldn't watch it if I wanted to. Not a single cricket game aired over here.  :(

There are three forms of the game, Test cricket which is about strategy and endurance, with a match played over five days. A lot of people dont have the patience for it but its the OG form and IMO the best. One day cricket is just that, reduced overs (innings) played over one day. And then theres twenty20 which is the shortest form played over twenty overs of six balls. This is all about big hits. You could probably find a stream, you may never love it, but its worth at least trying.

 

And people get injured, sometimes badly, but death is very rare, which is why this is such a shock

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The only time I ever squared up to someone on a cricket pitch was over someone bowling bouncers at a 12 year old kid batting at number 11.  This was Sunday league cricket and the bowler was being a ****.  When i was stood at the non strikers end and told him as much he had a pop.  I dropped my bat and gloves and told him I'd gladly take the ball and put it through his face if he bowled another one before our umpires and his skipper got between us.  Shame he didn't hang around after the game...

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^^Cricket is violent. Sheesh

There's an unwritten rule that you don't bowl bouncers at tail enders(usually the weakest batsmen in the team)  This tosser overstepped the mark big time especially as most people don't wear helmets that far down the order in that level of cricket.  The kid was wearing one but it was still a **** move what the bowler was doing

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to say this is a shock is an understatement

 

when you consider the bodyline series and the days with no helmets and bouncers coming down at 90 mph, how have more people not suffered the same fate?

 

just goes to show no matter how stupid you think you look, a helmet is given to you for a reason

Some of the pre helmet era injuries were gruesome.

 

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1977: Aussie batsman Rick McCosker’s jaw is broken by a Bob Willis bouncer on the opening morning of the Centenary Test against England. Despite having his jaw wired together and his head heavily bandaged, he returns for the second innings and helps Australia seal victory.

 

http://www.news.com.au/sport/phil-hughes-blow-is-among-crickets-worst-on-field-injuries/story-fnaqgujp-1227134790285

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There's an unwritten rule that you don't bowl bouncers at tail enders(usually the weakest batsmen in the team)  This tosser overstepped the mark big time especially as most people don't wear helmets that far down the order in that level of cricket.  The kid was wearing one but it was still a **** move what the bowler was doing

Let me get this straight..

 

The bowler is kinda like the pitcher in baseball? And he was bouncing the ball (which makes it harder to hit, and from the sound of it, more dangerous) at a kid?

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Let me get this straight..

 

The bowler is kinda like the pitcher in baseball? And he was bouncing the ball (which makes it harder to hit, and from the sound of it, more dangerous) at a kid?

You bounce every ball but this ****head was bouncing them at head/neck height at a pretty decent clip.  It's like a pitcher in baseball throwing the ball straight at the head/slash body knowing the batsmen isn't gonna get a free walk if he did get hit

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^^In that, is he trying to bounce the ball through the (correct me if I'm using the wrong term) wickets? Then it just takes a weird bounce and goes high?

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You bounce every ball but this ****head was bouncing them at head/neck height at a pretty decent clip.  It's like a pitcher in baseball throwing the ball straight at the head/slash body knowing the batsmen isn't gonna get a free walk if he did get hit

Gotcha. So it's like throwing sliders at a kid's head. 

 

That's a beatdownable offense.

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^^In that, is he trying to bounce the ball through the (correct me if I'm using the wrong term) wickets? Then it just takes a weird bounce and goes high?

No, that was completely deliberate

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Gotcha. So it's like throwing sliders at a kid's head. 

 

That's a beatdownable offense.

That's the one

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^^In that, is he trying to bounce the ball through the (correct me if I'm using the wrong term) wickets? Then it just takes a weird bounce and goes high?

He is actualy trying to hit the batsman, hurt him.

 

the idea is to take the wicket but you need to vary the bowling from long and short to keep the batsman guessing

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No, that was completely deliberate

But is the goal to bounce the ball through the wicket directly behind the batsman(again, correct me if I'm using the wrong terms)?

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He is actualy trying to hit the batsman, hurt him.

 

the idea is to take the wicket but you need to vary the bowling from long and short to keep the batsman guessing

Gotcha!

 

In baseball, they throw up and down, or left and right. In cricket, they can really only use the long and short?

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But is the goal to bounce the ball through the wicket directly behind the batsman(again, correct me if I'm using the wrong terms)?

Yeah hit the wicket or catch the ball to get the batsman out

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Gotcha!

 

In baseball, they throw up and down, or left and right. In cricket, they can really only use the long and short?

cricket-pitch-dimensions.gif

 

each end is the wicket and the marked 264 cm is the 'crease' where the batsmen will stand.   thats the area the bowler has to bowl at

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I think I get it now. The ball is so heavy that you're only capable of bouncing it so high above the batsman. Then the field is a wide circle and you can field from all angles?

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I think I get it now. The ball is so heavy that you're only capable of bouncing it so high above the batsman. Then the field is a wide circle and you can field from all angles?

yep, and you can hit anywhere, even directly behind you. 

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In my head, cricket is harder than baseball now. 

 

So the opposing wickets are bowled at by the opposite teams?

Fielding team bowl from each end alternately.

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In my head, cricket is harder than baseball now. 

 

So the opposing wickets are bowled at by the opposite teams?

Baseball is a dull game that dosent take much thought to be honest

 

Cricket is so bloody difficult

 

in cricket you have Innings, where one team bats and the other team bowls and fields.

 

the innings changes after so many 'overs' (six balls bowled) have been completed or all the batsmen have been bowled out

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these guys are scrubs but this explains everything

 

^^"He may choose to wear a helmet too."

 

No, wear a goddamn helmet.  :(

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^^"He may choose to wear a helmet too."

 

No, wear a goddamn helmet.  :(

Never worn a helmet playing but that's because as i said above, bowling bouncers to lower order batsmen is frowned upon and i was competent enough to get out of the way of bouncers at our standard as the bowlers weren't ridiculously fast.  A lot has to do with the strip of grass you're playing on as well.  I've played on pitches where the ball has landed 8-10 feet in front of the batsmen and come through around his ears and one wear it's pitched 16 feet short and come through no higher than knee height.  

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On all the news posts I've seen over the last few days every one in the comment section has shown nothing but respect to the situation, whether they liked cricket or not and although it's a devastating incident, I'm proud to see all of Australia get behind Phil along with cricket fans all over the world.
 

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Logged on just to post this. Terrible tragedy, thoughts with all the family and the poor kid who bowled the ball, must be feeling dreadful.

At times like this cheesy quotes about sport being more important than life or death seem decidedly glib :(

 

RIP in piece Phil Hughes.

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See. They keep just randomly mentioning it, long after it happened. They haven't even described if he was important or not.

 

I asked because we see stories about minor league baseball players that no one on Earth could identify, just because they got hit by a stray baseball. They haven't said a damn thing about where he got hit other than to say "in the neck". In every sport we watch, there is no chance to die from the ball hitting you in the neck.

 

That's why I was confused. Apologies, sir. And to anyone I offended with the petty joke.

I understand where you're coming from so I'll give you the lowdown.

 

This was a young country kid who made it from a small town all the way to the national side to play for Australia at the highest level. He was an incredibly well liked, humble, hard working kid. All the players loved him as well as the other sporting elite who spent time with him.

 

During his time playing for Australia, veteran commentatoes were making comparisons to our arguable GOAT who played 90 years ago, Don Bradman.

 

That's the saying some kid from some tiny town in the states who knows how to hit is gonna be the next Mickey Mantle.

 

He got exposed for having a couple of holes in his game, and dropped from the national side. He went into different leagues to hone in his skills and was this week about to be put back into the national side for a test match (5 day match played internationally. Only the best in the world get selected) It was going to be his 26th birthday this Saturday.

 

He was struck above the cerebellum by a fast paced 'bouncer' (the footage is in the thread) the cricket ball is bigger, and harder than the baseball and there for has a much larger amount of force on impact. The ball was the equivalent of the end of a baseball bat at full swing hitting the artery above the cerebellum which controls all motor neuron response, it was all over as soon as it happened.

 

It had never happened at any level of the sport in over 100 years, even school grade level.

 

This was a freak accident, which happened to a well loved kid just about to make his comeback to the national team to play for his country in the sport he loved.

 

It's on your screen because despite how much the Americans don't understand it, it's a world sport. Not only has the death of such a young champion effected everyone who had anything to do with it, the method in which it happened has scared the **** out of everyone who DIDNT know him.

 

Every batsman in the world who plays at a decent enough level has faced a fast bouncer in their playing career, I've faced hundreds and I only played in high school, not only that, every bowler who bowls fast enough has bowled one.

 

It has upset and scared the **** out of millions of players and fans across the world.

 

Sorry for the TL/DR but that's the big picture for anyone interested

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Crangs or Tiger or Jbrahams (or anyone else here!) did you Guys used to play on concrete pitches with composite balls?? That **** was nasty. I've still to this day got a tender spot on my shin from a fast delivery that hit the ****ing pads and still have me a hairline fracture!

 

I'd bowl first to third and bat second drop and was a quick myself and would lie if I said I hadn't broken a toe or two with some sweet placed Yorkers ;) just the nature of the game ;)

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Crangs or Tiger or Jbrahams (or anyone else here!) did you Guys used to play on concrete pitches with composite balls?? That **** was nasty. I've still to this day got a tender spot on my shin from a fast delivery that hit the **** pads and still have me a hairline fracture!

 

I'd bowl first to third and bat second drop and was a quick myself and would lie if I said I hadn't broken a toe or two with some sweet placed Yorkers ;) just the nature of the game ;)

yeah I played like 2 years when I was a teen and that **** was pretty crazy. I wasn't the fastest bowler but I think in the second season I had the best average in the team, but batting wise I was horrible. I just used to always freeze up and would never play big shots, but when I would play in the nets with friends I'd do pretty good. So I just choked playing for club basically lol, but yeah it would be pretty interesting to see an international level game played on a concrete pitch with those balls I reckon.

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In my head, cricket is harder than baseball now. 

 

So the opposing wickets are bowled at by the opposite teams?

just by watching the videos in this thread you could probably do fairly well at making the US national cricket team if they even have one lol

 

Do they have any local cricket teams in the US or your area? I know in Brisbane we have a fair bit of baseball advertised and there are a few gridiron teams but you never hear about them

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Good to see the 'ban the bouncer' brigade are out and about already.  Talking about how it should be banned and how helmets should be improved.  The thing that needs the most improving is the technique of every kid first and foremost.

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Good to see the 'ban the bouncer' brigade are out and about already.  Talking about how it should be banned and how helmets should be improved.  The thing that needs the most improving is the technique of every kid first and foremost.

Matthew Hoggard said it right, wearing the helmet gives people a false sense of security as before they would have to duck out of the way and now people will still try and play the ball.

 

Even if you have a helmet on, you should still duck some bouncers

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Matthew Hoggard said it right, wearing the helmet gives people a false sense of security as before they would have to duck out of the way and now people will still try and play the ball.

 

Even if you have a helmet on, you should still duck some bouncers

And that was exactly what Hughes was doing most of the day as well.  From all accounts it was one of the rare occasions that innings he actually tried to play the hook shot.  You ban everything due to one freak accident and we'll be left with **** all

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Yeah,there have been literally millions of bouncers bowled and sadly one has killed a guy. To litigate against a one in a million event is crazy.

 

This will change cricket for a long time though. Feel really sorry for abbott and wish all these ex pros would stop saying they know how he feels. .. They just don't.

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Yeah,there have been literally millions of bouncers bowled and sadly one has killed a guy. To litigate against a one in a million event is crazy.

 

This will change cricket for a long time though. Feel really sorry for abbott and wish all these ex pros would stop saying they know how he feels. .. They just don't.

The test between Pakistan and NZ got off to a weird start.  The NZ team were quite emotional when they held a moments silence before the game but then It was like neither team wanted to be there.  No cheering or clapping when people were given out.  Bowlers puttting about 90% effort in, batsmen not really concentrating.  Putting a game into perspective

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The test between Pakistan and NZ got off to a weird start. The NZ team were quite emotional when they held a moments silence before the game but then It was like neither team wanted to be there. No cheering or clapping when people were given out. Bowlers puttting about 90% effort in, batsmen not really concentrating. Putting a game into perspective

Cricketers are pretty bright blokes so i think this will affect them for some time.

 

I hope they pay tribute somehow at the eng v aus game on Saturday. Australia may be our mortal enemies on any sports field but they are our brothers off it and i hope the proper respect is shown.

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NZ 196/1 off 29 overs aint bad going in a test...

Reports seem to indicate that Mcullum is paying tribute to Hughes in the best way he knows.  136 off 112 balls and still going.  Barely celebrated his century apparently.

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