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#1 ajm

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 05:26 PM

With the new IV ban there will be more people missing weight, not hydrating properly or there will be fighters forced to move up and fight bigger guys.

 

The weight classes need to be adjusted. For lighter weights, i would like to see the following adjustments. Add a 165 and adjust welter weight.

 

125

135

145

155

165 ( new weight class )

175 ( welter weight changed to 175 )

185

195 ( new weight class )

205

 

 

There probably should be a 225, 245, 265 weight class.

 

If the UFC really cared about its Athletes they would not use a reason such as "not enough talent" to not add more weight classes.

 

If the UFC really cared about weight cutting issues for women they would add a 125 and 145 weight class.

 

115

125 ( new weight class )

135

145 ( new weight class )

 

 

Just my thoughts on the issue.


Edited by ajm, 02 October 2015 - 07:28 PM.


#2 Mcmax3000

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 08:09 PM

Changing the weight classes isn't going to stop guys from cutting weight (chances are in your scenario, a guy who is cutting to 170 would cut further to 165 rather than going up to 175). It has to be done in conjunction with rules, and testing to ensure they're not cutting too much.

Also, not enough talent is absolutely a valid reason not to be adding more weight classes. There are barely enough quality heavyweights as is in a weight class that spans 60 pounds, and you want to take that already incredibly thin division, and separate it into three different divisions.

At that point, you might as well just scrap everything above 205, because those divisions would be awful.
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#3 JChristian522

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 08:58 PM

This is a another cruiser weight division thread in disguise.



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Posted 02 October 2015 - 09:56 PM

I think you both missed the point, its more about the gap between lighter weight classes. i disagree that a fighter who struggles to make 170 would cut to 165.

 

Hendricks struggles to make 170 but is probably to small for 185. And there would be fighters who stuggle to make 155 and are to small for 170.

 

So if Hendricks cant make 170 anymore, moves up and gets smashed at 185, he would probably retire and you prevent a world class fighter from fighting closer to his optimin weight.

 

But if you want to talk about heavy weight. Say Jon Jones wants to come back but cant make 205 any more, but he does not want to fight people that weigh 265. You think he should just retire.


Edited by ajm, 02 October 2015 - 10:40 PM.


#5 Mcmax3000

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 05:17 AM

Yes, someone like Hendricks who really struggles to make 170 would move up, but a good number of the guys who fight at 170 right now would cut to 165 rather than moving up.

And as for heavyweight, I absolutely agree that it sucks that there's no option in between 205, and 265, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't have enough guys to start a weight class in the middle, nevermind your original suggestion of two. Even light heavyweight isn't overly stacked (see: Gustafsson getting a title shot tonight coming off of a first round KO loss), so you're taking two divisions that are kind of weak, and making four divisions that would be incredibly week.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:34 PM

I really dont think that would help


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#7 juice64011

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 04:23 PM

I think you both missed the point, its more about the gap between lighter weight classes. i disagree that a fighter who struggles to make 170 would cut to 165.

Hendricks struggles to make 170 but is probably to small for 185. And there would be fighters who stuggle to make 155 and are to small for 170.

So if Hendricks cant make 170 anymore, moves up and gets smashed at 185, he would probably retire and you prevent a world class fighter from fighting closer to his optimin weight.

But if you want to talk about heavy weight. Say Jon Jones wants to come back but cant make 205 any more, but he does not want to fight people that weigh 265. You think he should just retire.

It's already happening. Diego Sanchez is cutting to 145 after struggling to make 155.

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