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#1 SmoothCriminal

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 01:15 PM

Cerrone is killing me.

I'm still a fan but goddamn, that's three in a row now. Dude is just collecting checks at this point.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:09 PM

Well, hold on a minute.

 

He did have a very close fight with Lawler tho.

 

One thing is for sure tho, he is going downhill now


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:11 PM

Well, hold on a minute.

He did have a very close fight with Lawler tho.

One thing is for sure tho, he is going downhill now


Yup, maybe fighting 5-6 times a year has finally caught up with him
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

What's your take on Little Frank vs. Max again?
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:14 PM

What's your take on Little Frank vs. Max again?


Edgar and it wont even be close.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:15 PM

Awesome. Throwing some cheese at Max then.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:18 PM

Awesome. Throwing some cheese at Max then.


Do it that way you can feel like a **** idiot when he gets blasted.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:21 PM

You're wrong more often than you're right.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:29 PM

You're wrong more often than you're right.


I don't bet MMA, my head isn't in it at all. I always go with who I like, so yeah I probably am wrong more often in MMA.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:33 PM

On a side note I can bet dogs like a champ though. Racing not fighting.
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:45 PM

If Plank would train with Edmond so he could get some Ronda like head movement he'd be multi division champ already.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:46 PM

BTW Werdum fought a bum in his last fight.  Darrel Hill is the greatest fighter in the world.


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:05 AM

Cerrone is killing me.

I'm still a fan but goddamn, that's three in a row now. Dude is just collecting checks at this point.

 

he can probably still beat the same level of bum that werdum fights


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:10 AM

Well, hold on a minute.

 

He did have a very close fight with Lawler tho.

 

One thing is for sure tho, he is going downhill now

Hes not a welterweight


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 07:28 AM

Yup, maybe fighting 5-6 times a year has finally caught up with him

That's a very real possibility. I know Cowboy has stated that he no longer does hard sparring in camp (just drilling), but he's from the old era of gym wars. Those balls-to-the-wall sparring sessions in training do more damage than the actual fights do - that's what broke Forrest Griffin. Listen to Brendan Schaub talk about the old gym wars he had with Shane Carwin, and how they'd go toe to toe for a few minutes at the end of each workout. After that he'd go out to his car and puke since he was so concussed. A lot of the CTE stuff guys are dealing with now is from poor training habits and getting the living daylights beaten out of them in the gym.

 

Also, there's the conventional wisdom that you get about 10 good years in MMA, no matter how early you start. While some guys can buck the trend, it does seem to hold true overall. Cerrone has been fighting since 2003 in one form or another, and he has well over 50 fights if you include his early boxing and kickboxing record. Cowboy, with almost 15 years of his fighting under his belt and a lot of miles, very well may be in the twilight of his career.

 

I could be wrong and there are always exceptions, but I agree with you - Cowboy's probably on the downside.



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Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

It's pretty simple I think. He's not a WW. He's 4-3 at ww fighting fairly average competition. Prior to that he went 8-1 at LW fighting mainly guys in the top 10.

He'll never hold the gold, but if Cerrone goes back to LW I think he'll win a lot more fights down there than at WW.
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:26 PM

It's pretty simple I think. He's not a WW. He's 4-3 at ww fighting fairly average competition. Prior to that he went 8-1 at LW fighting mainly guys in the top 10.

He'll never hold the gold, but if Cerrone goes back to LW I think he'll win a lot more fights down there than at WW.

This. WWs these days way 220 lbs walking around... Cerrone weighs maybe 180 walking around lol... maybe.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:12 AM

This. WWs these days way 220 lbs walking around... Cerrone weighs maybe 180 walking around lol... maybe.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:16 AM

lol no
   
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There's been a few.  Kyle Noke was far bigger than any middleweight he coached on that garbage Australia vs Canada TUF and he fought Cote at welterweight.  He was definitely north of 205.

 

The greatest fighter in the world Darrel Hill said in his post fight interview that he's a light heavyweight fighting in the welterweight division.  Not sure why he would say that like it's a good thing.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:35 AM

There's been a few. Kyle Noke was far bigger than any middleweight he coached on that garbage Australia vs Canada TUF and he fought Cote at welterweight. He was definitely north of 205.

The greatest fighter in the world Darrel Hill said in his post fight interview that he's a light heavyweight fighting in the welterweight division. Not sure why he would say that like it's a good thing.

I cringed when he said that. Guess he thought Conor looked like a badass beating on midgets at 145. Then he tells Perry that he's a LW.. lol

Till would get smashed by every fighter at 185 though. Including Tim Boestch. So he's making the right decision by nearly killing himself to fight at 170.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 03:14 AM

Did Cerrone throw a single punch? I only recall he threw a couple of kicks. I think he was hurt before the fight & refused to pull out.
Also....what is with the title Of The thread having nothing to do with the content? Werdummy beat a low ranked guy last time...& tragic Browne, wow.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 03:59 AM

Did Cerrone throw a single punch? I only recall he threw a couple of kicks. I think he was hurt before the fight & refused to pull out.
Also....what is with the title Of The thread having nothing to do with the content? Werdummy beat a low ranked guy last time...& tragic Browne, wow.


The title has everything to do with the content.
Smooth made a bold prophecy that werdum, cowboy and Edgar would all wear gold within a year. So far werdum is the only member of that unholy trinity who hasn't let him down, hence the title.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:35 AM

The title has everything to do with the content.
Smooth made a bold prophecy that werdum, cowboy and Edgar would all wear gold within a year. So far werdum is the only member of that unholy trinity who hasn't let him down, hence the title.

Werdum got beat up by Overeem in July.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:41 AM

Werdum got beat up by Overeem in July.


Yes, and apparently beating a random with no bjj is a sign he's back on track and coming for that strap. Who am I to crush a man's dreams?
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:57 AM

Yes, and apparently beating a random with no bjj is a sign he's back on track and coming for that strap. Who am I to crush a man's dreams?


It is a sign goddamnit!
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 11:54 AM

Yes, and apparently beating a random with no bjj is a sign he's back on track and coming for that strap. Who am I to crush a man's dreams?

Walt Harris still thinks he got the W via disqualification because Werdum refused to fight him straight up.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:11 PM

Walt Harris still thinks he got the W via disqualification because Werdum refused to fight him straight up.


It's MMA not Tough man. If the nature of the sport isn't to your liking you can always grab a coors light and a trucker hat and had down to your local civic arena to watch the locals "throw hands"
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:18 PM

It's MMA not Tough man. If the nature of the sport isn't to your liking you can always grab a coors light and a trucker hat and had down to your local civic arena to watch the locals "throw hands"

Or I'll head out into the back yard and hand out hundreds to people who bring the thunder and don't **** tuck.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:24 PM

Or I'll head out into the back yard and hand out hundreds to people who bring the thunder and don't **** tuck.


Hundreds of thousands? Cause that's what Werdum is making per fight to be the best BJJ practitioner at HW
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:27 PM

Ngannou is best BJJ guy now. He nearly ripped a man's arm off in his last fight.

He doesn't butt scoot either.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:28 PM

This. WWs these days way 220 lbs walking around... 

 

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:39 PM

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230?

 

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:41 PM

^^^^ did you really use Johnny Fatricks that do not make the scale on weight as an example?.lol

 

Isn't this the very reason why he went up a division?


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:45 PM

^^^^ did you really use Johnny Fatricks that do not make the scale on weight as an example?.lol

 

Isn't this the very reason why he went up a division?

No, i used him to make a cheap joke.


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