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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:01 PM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:01 PM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:05 PM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:15 PM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:19 PM

Holm finna be a carrot or zucchini
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:23 PM

Cyborg wins



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:41 PM

Cyborg fosho


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:45 PM

Thanks Holm. it was nice meeting you.

 

Thanks for taking Ronda back to reality too.

 

I have a crush on you.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:49 PM

Hi vert!

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:51 PM

Hi vert!


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:14 PM

Atleast no warnings for timidity in this one.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:55 PM

Holm is stuck in a rut ,a bad rut.

 

Rousey was tailor made because Rousey was so arrogant she believed she could beat anyone ,anytime so ran at Holm recklessly.

Since that fight,i have watched Holm fight 100% identical and very predictable.

 

She stands back ,once awhile throws a jab but does not follow up with several combos,she fights VERY tentative.Holm reminds me of Firas fighters,does not understand how to get inside safely and with intent,seems to fight too defensively,too cautious.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:00 PM

Good Co-Main but lets hope this is not the main event and another great fight gets booked.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:17 PM

Good Co-Main but lets hope this is not the main event and another great fight gets booked.

With the rumors of Woodley vs Nate ... yeah that might be the co main event.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:10 PM

this is a good fight for holm, coz she needs somebody who's gonna take the fight to her instead of a chess match where she gets over technical.

 

i can see a war at least.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:11 PM

Holm finna be a carrot or zucchini

Holm finna be roadkill.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:23 AM

Has Cyborg actually fought anybody that could hurt her with strikes? How is her striking defense?

 

I don't think Holly wins but if she can actually land a clean head kick she may be able to hurt Cyborg.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:12 AM

Has Cyborg actually fought anybody that could hurt her with strikes? How is her striking defense?

 

I don't think Holly wins but if she can actually land a clean head kick she may be able to hurt Cyborg.

 

You may want to check out her fight with Jorina Baars. The match was muay thai but it may be the best answer to your question.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:48 AM

I actually think Holm wins this if it stays on the feet, which I think it will.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:50 AM

What do you guys think opening odds will be?

Cyborg -550
Holm +380

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 01:03 PM

Sorry to hear this. I like Holly but she has no chance against goldborg


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 01:04 PM

Jesus

 

Holly is about to be 1-4 in her last 5


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 01:10 PM

Backing Holly.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:57 PM

What do you guys think opening odds will be?

Cyborg -550
Holm +380


Way off. Sportsbook has it as:

Cyborg -330
Holm +250
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:14 PM

Way off. Sportsbook has it as:

Cyborg -330
Holm +250

I'll take it all on Cyborg please.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:51 PM

With the rumors of Woodley vs Nate ... yeah that might be the co main event.

That would make for an awesome card 


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 08:10 AM

You may want to check out her fight with Jorina Baars. The match was muay thai but it may be the best answer to your question.

That's a great point, not to mention it illustrates the difference between muay thai and MMA. Some folks still seem to think that athletes can bounce around from one combat sport to another with similar levels of success (the hype around McGregor-Mayweather didn't help), but I think more and more people are realizing that these athletic endeavors, while related, are still VERY different.

 

The Baars fight illustrated how handicapped Cyborg was when facing a technically superior fighter in a striking-only platform. I admire Cyborg for stepping out of her comfort zone and taking the fight, but it was clear that she was in over her head. You could see that Cyborg was much stronger than Baars and probably a harder hitter as well, but eventually she was overwhelmed by Baars' accuracy. 

 

I think Holly could beat Cyborg in a boxing match - naturally, since Holly did box professionally for years, but also because Holly's technique and striking acumen is superior even if she lacks Cyborg's raw power. However, in an MMA match, I don't know if it's enough, especially with only five rounds.

 

Keep in mind, Cyborg would probably kill Baars in an MMA fight, who is only 1-3 in her MMA career against mostly nobodies - she got TKO'd by Cindy Dandois for pete's sake.

 

Jesus

 

Holly is about to be 1-4 in her last 5

 

A definite possibility. One has to wonder what Holly's career would be like if she had waited for the rematch with Ronda and won again. Instead, she took on Tate and despite winning on the scorecards, lost to a last minute go-for-broke submission from Miesha.

 

So...

Last minute sub to Miesha

Dropped a UD to Schevchenko (no shame in that)

Got robbed against De Random in a fight she should've won, especially given the point deductions that should've happened

Beat Bethe Correia in a boring fight up until the highlight reel KO

 

It doesn't look great, but it's not as bad as some make it seem. It's not like she was out there getting brutally KO'd like Chuck Liddell was at the end of his career. However, a loss is still an L in the records so 1-4 in her last 5 would still be 1-4 regardless.


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

Backing Holly.


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

holly homes is gonna own this nobody


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:11 PM

A 100% Holly Holm can defeat Cyborg. I would not bet on it though.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:21 PM

I cant see Holm beating Cyborg even if Holm is having a great night and Cyborg is on her worst night.


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:25 PM

I cant see Holm beating Cyborg even if Holm is having a great night and Cyborg is on her worst night.

Holm doesn't hit hard enough on her best day. She will get owned.
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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:28 PM

Holm doesn't hit hard enough on her best day. She will get owned.

This.

 

Even if she gets a clean shot at Cyborg I still wonder she would be able to do any real damage. Also, I think at this point Holm is just too one dimensional for someone like Cyborg who should be able to taker her down at will and finish from there any moment she decides to.


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:28 PM

I dont see any way that Holm can win this fight


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:29 PM

I dont see any way that Holm can win this fight

agree m8.

 

I dont mind if does tho. 


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:31 PM

agree m8.

 

I dont mind if does tho. 

Id rather Cyborg win.. but yea I guess in the end I really dont care much


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:34 PM

But Holly kicks hard enough to knock her out. If she wins it's by decision anyway. That lesbian made it to round 3-4? Holly can do that too.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:36 PM

I dont see any way that Holm can win this fight

There aren't enough roids on the planet.
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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:37 PM

Tonya Evinger is grittier than Holly Holm. Better wrestler too. Fact.
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Posted 18 November 2017 - 01:39 PM

There aren't enough roids on the planet.

I dont think so


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 07:13 PM

I dont see any way Freddy can be straight


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 08:41 PM

I dont see any way Freddy can be straight

Damn.

 

I think now you went tew far


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:05 PM

Holm will circle and avoid fighting. Roidborg will walk her down.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:32 AM

I dont see any way Freddy can be straight

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 10:37 AM

i dont think cyborg can take a shot, let alone multiple. i think a stiff jab and distance can win this for holly.
i think cyborg gets winded then body,head,body finish with head kick, if holly doesnt ko cyborg she submits her in a dramatic turn of events, setd up rematch.
holly the legend killer, that loses to bums

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 10:44 AM

this better not be the main event


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:04 PM

i dont think cyborg can take a shot, let alone multiple. i think a stiff jab and distance can win this for holly.
i think cyborg gets winded then body,head,body finish with head kick, if holly doesnt ko cyborg she submits her in a dramatic turn of events, setd up rematch.
holly the legend killer, that loses to bums

 

i dont think cyborg can take a shot, let alone multiple. i think a stiff jab and distance can win this for holly.
i think cyborg gets winded then body,head,body finish with head kick, if holly doesnt ko cyborg she submits her in a dramatic turn of events, setd up rematch.
holly the legend killer, that loses to bums

I dont see that happening 


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