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Holm is stuck in a rut ,a bad rut.

 

Rousey was tailor made because Rousey was so arrogant she believed she could beat anyone ,anytime so ran at Holm recklessly.

Since that fight,i have watched Holm fight 100% identical and very predictable.

 

She stands back ,once awhile throws a jab but does not follow up with several combos,she fights VERY tentative.Holm reminds me of Firas fighters,does not understand how to get inside safely and with intent,seems to fight too defensively,too cautious.

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Has Cyborg actually fought anybody that could hurt her with strikes? How is her striking defense?

 

I don't think Holly wins but if she can actually land a clean head kick she may be able to hurt Cyborg.

 

You may want to check out her fight with Jorina Baars. The match was muay thai but it may be the best answer to your question.

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What do you guys think opening odds will be?

 

Cyborg -550

Holm +380

Way off. Sportsbook has it as:

 

Cyborg -330

Holm +250

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You may want to check out her fight with Jorina Baars. The match was muay thai but it may be the best answer to your question.

That's a great point, not to mention it illustrates the difference between muay thai and MMA. Some folks still seem to think that athletes can bounce around from one combat sport to another with similar levels of success (the hype around McGregor-Mayweather didn't help), but I think more and more people are realizing that these athletic endeavors, while related, are still VERY different.

 

The Baars fight illustrated how handicapped Cyborg was when facing a technically superior fighter in a striking-only platform. I admire Cyborg for stepping out of her comfort zone and taking the fight, but it was clear that she was in over her head. You could see that Cyborg was much stronger than Baars and probably a harder hitter as well, but eventually she was overwhelmed by Baars' accuracy. 

 

I think Holly could beat Cyborg in a boxing match - naturally, since Holly did box professionally for years, but also because Holly's technique and striking acumen is superior even if she lacks Cyborg's raw power. However, in an MMA match, I don't know if it's enough, especially with only five rounds.

 

Keep in mind, Cyborg would probably kill Baars in an MMA fight, who is only 1-3 in her MMA career against mostly nobodies - she got TKO'd by Cindy Dandois for pete's sake.

 

Jesus

 

Holly is about to be 1-4 in her last 5

 

A definite possibility. One has to wonder what Holly's career would be like if she had waited for the rematch with Ronda and won again. Instead, she took on Tate and despite winning on the scorecards, lost to a last minute go-for-broke submission from Miesha.

 

So...

Last minute sub to Miesha

Dropped a UD to Schevchenko (no shame in that)

Got robbed against De Random in a fight she should've won, especially given the point deductions that should've happened

Beat Bethe Correia in a boring fight up until the highlight reel KO

 

It doesn't look great, but it's not as bad as some make it seem. It's not like she was out there getting brutally KO'd like Chuck Liddell was at the end of his career. However, a loss is still an L in the records so 1-4 in her last 5 would still be 1-4 regardless.

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I cant see Holm beating Cyborg even if Holm is having a great night and Cyborg is on her worst night.

Holm doesn't hit hard enough on her best day. She will get owned.
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Holm doesn't hit hard enough on her best day. She will get owned.

This.

 

Even if she gets a clean shot at Cyborg I still wonder she would be able to do any real damage. Also, I think at this point Holm is just too one dimensional for someone like Cyborg who should be able to taker her down at will and finish from there any moment she decides to.

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i dont think cyborg can take a shot, let alone multiple. i think a stiff jab and distance can win this for holly.

i think cyborg gets winded then body,head,body finish with head kick, if holly doesnt ko cyborg she submits her in a dramatic turn of events, setd up rematch.

holly the legend killer, that loses to bums

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i dont think cyborg can take a shot, let alone multiple. i think a stiff jab and distance can win this for holly.

i think cyborg gets winded then body,head,body finish with head kick, if holly doesnt ko cyborg she submits her in a dramatic turn of events, setd up rematch.

holly the legend killer, that loses to bums

 

i dont think cyborg can take a shot, let alone multiple. i think a stiff jab and distance can win this for holly.

i think cyborg gets winded then body,head,body finish with head kick, if holly doesnt ko cyborg she submits her in a dramatic turn of events, setd up rematch.

holly the legend killer, that loses to bums

I dont see that happening 

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