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#1 chons

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:39 PM

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IN GENERAL, THE COMMON LIZARD GIVES BIRTH TO LIVE YOUNG, EXCEPT IN TWO POPULATIONS. ABI WARNER/SHUTTERSTOCK

 
 

Despite what many of us were once taught in school, not all reptiles lay eggs. In fact, one of the most widespread lizards in Europe give birth to live young. Now, it seems these common lizards (Zootoca vivipara) have done something once thought impossible – they have in effect "reversed" evolution to re-evolve egg laying.

It's already been observed that two separate sub-populations of the common lizard still lay eggs (despite their name meaning live-bearing in both Latin and Greek). With one found along the border of France and Spain and the other in the Alps, it was assumed that they simply represented relic populations of the egg-laying ancestors of the common lizard.

To test this, researchers carried out genetic analysis of over 70 lizards collected throughout their range in Europe, in order to flesh out a detailed evolutionary tree. Their results are published on bioRxiv

It turns out that the tree is a little more complicated than they originally thought. The population of egg-laying lizards still knocking about in the Alps did indeed turn out to be a remnant group of the original egg-laying reptiles. But the lizards laying eggs in Spain were found to have re-evolved this ability, meaning that evolution basically went backwards.

This is interesting since in 1893, Belgian palaeontologist Louis Dollo presented a principle that in effect said that evolution is unidirectional, and so once an organism looses a complex trait (such as egg laying), it is not able to re-evolve it, even if it was to once again find itself living in the same environment. This is known as Dollo’s law, however the new analysis of the common lizard adds to mounting evidence that this is not strictly true.

Not only that, but evolutionarily speaking, the common lizard only evolved giving birth to live young relatively recently, within the last 2 million years or so. This means that the small renegade bunch in Spain must have regained egg laying even more recently, suggesting that perhaps they somehow retained the ability and that it was simply dormant within their DNA, before then being switched back on again.

This is not the first time that reptiles, or even lizards for that matter, have re-evolved egg laying. One such example is that of the Erycinae snakes – while most of these species are ovoviparous, at least three are known to lay eggs. It is thought that these three species likely re-evolved the ability after 60 million years, implying that they genuinely lost the genetic code for it, unlike the common lizards. Yet evolution still somehow managed to go backwards.

 



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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:41 PM

Interesting article, but some crappy reporting/explanation. 


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:54 PM

evolving backwards? wouldn't it just be 'devolving'? 


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:14 PM

evolving backwards? wouldn't it just be 'devolving'? 

Like I said, it's pretty crappy reporting. There really isn't any devolving or backward evolution going on. 


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:58 PM

Like I said, it's pretty crappy reporting. There really isn't any devolving or backward evolution going on. 

Exactly.  Evolution is a forward moving process by definition.  


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:17 PM

I still struggle to see what’s significant about these lizards. There are plenty of degenerates in society to debunk Dollo’s Law.
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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:23 PM

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:55 AM

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The dude is a sage. He should be given a part in all movies.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:31 AM

evolving backwards? wouldn't it just be 'devolving'? 

 

 

im not sure. ask finish^him


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:33 AM

im not sure. ask finish^him

He's going to be walking on all fours and swinging from trees any second


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:35 AM

sometimes in special cases evolution seems to go in reverse.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:22 PM

He's going to be walking on all fours and swinging from trees any second


Yet I'll be smart enough to not let a drug control my life. Chew on that.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:22 PM

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Dude you're still rocking a mullet... dafaq you talking about? Lol

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:28 PM

Dude you're still rocking a mullet... dafaq you talking about? Lol

 

 

i shaved my head bald on 4/20 and i still dont have that much hair.   but i never had a mullet, i just used to have long hair.   theres a difference between that. people with mullets dont have hair in the front.  at least not hair that can reach down past their chin i would imagine. i had a heavy metal head of hair homie. and maybe one day ill even grow it back!

 

what do you look like? im sure you dont have the balls to ever post any pictures here. you cant even take a silly forum bet for fun without welching. its okay,  im sure that you look like just as much of the joke you are on here.  probably some 16 year old with a justin bieber tattoo on his forehead. no wonder youre such a goof and living under mommy and daddys schedule.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:31 PM

TLDR

I'm not the best… I just believe that I can do things that people think are impossible.


And at least I am no former Junkie that is all that matters.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:38 PM

TLDR

 

and i dont care.  shouldnt have you have thrown me on your ignore list weeks ago kiddo?

 

youre a f*cking clown dude. you sit under mom and dads roof and try to make fun of people or tell them how they should be living their lives. youre an insecure egotistical piece of chit.  now i see why the whole forum bags on you. you have no spine.  go back to playing call of duty and making dumb little youtube videos for your 1 subscriber before mom calls you upstairs for dinner.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:40 PM

The dude is a sage. He should be given a part in all movies.

He was hilarious in Thor: Ragnarok


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:44 PM

There are plenty of examples on this forum lol...



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:18 PM

He was hilarious in Thor: Ragnarok

I need to see this, his interviews for the film a phenom. 


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