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UFC 221: Rockhold vs. Romero - Official Discussion Thread

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#601 wanderleisilva101

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 11:36 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if Yoel is out injured for awhile judging by his interview sat down and his corner helping him up and out the cage.

I noticed he checked one of the kicks in the first round and his body language and face seemed to change for a split second might of happened then.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 11:44 PM

Why ? How ?


GSP had no intention of defending. So that fight is a no contest. Bobby Duckles is still injured and therefore can't defend his fake belt. Romero didn't make weight. The only champion with legitimacy is Bisping. And before anyone says kelvin, the champ would not fight on some random card at 2 weeks notice so that's also a no contest.

I hope that clarifies things for you mate. And still!

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:07 AM

GSP had no intention of defending. So that fight is a no contest. Bobby Duckles is still injured and therefore can't defend his fake belt. Romero didn't make weight. The only champion with legitimacy is Bisping. And before anyone says kelvin, the champ would not fight on some random card at 2 weeks notice so that's also a no contest.

I hope that clarifies things for you mate. And still!

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:04 AM

Yoel wins via cheating again. He's basically the NE Patriots of MMA
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:13 AM

Weidman does present a solid argument too.



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The solid argurments are by those destroying him in the replies m8 lol
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:43 AM

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:51 AM

So just watched the card there now, Ben was poor, Adesanya was brilliant vs a guy who literally only wanted to try hug him for 3 rounds, Pedro was much better this time than last, Blaydes was disappointing, won a UD but was ankle diving for dear life.

 

And Romero.... damn, knew Rockhold would get KO'd but it looked like he lost half his teeth. I still think Rockhold is massively overrated, he was brilliant in the past, but since the Vitor fight his chin is gone. He had an easy run to Chris in terms of ageing fighters, and beat Weidman, who went on to have a 3 KO losses in a row. And since that has done little except beating Branch who does not look of UFC champion level. 

 

All in all a fun card to watch, I think Adesanya was the standout for me, I was expecting him to be taken down and just dominated for 3 rounds, but his TD defense was awesome and his strike selection was perfection, really really does look like a Jon Jones copy. 



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Posted 11 February 2018 - 04:19 AM

Rockhold did the right thing imo and was winning the fight. Romero needed that KO and rockholds poor head movement presented the opportunity.

 

Would have liked to see 1 of them shoot for a takedown, i kind of felt like the ground would have been where this fight gets interesting. But understandable why neither fighter went for it.

 

 

UFC should make weidman vs jacare for title shot. Romero doesnt deserve it.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 04:28 AM

Rockhold did the right thing imo and was winning the fight. Romero needed that KO and rockholds poor head movement presented the opportunity.

 

Would have liked to see 1 of them shoot for a takedown, i kind of felt like the ground would have been where this fight gets interesting. But understandable why neither fighter went for it.

 

 

UFC should make weidman vs jacare for title shot. Romero doesnt deserve it.

 

Yoel is an Olympic Silver Medalist in freestyle wrestling, for me that beats BJJ all day long, Its like someone going for TD against Cormier, who is no where near the level of Yoel if you take the Olympic medal as the skill level. Luke knew his ground game would not compete against someone like that, so maintained the "Ill destroy him on the ground, the ground is my game plan" tactic to put it in Yoel's mind that he did not want to get it to the ground.

 

Problem is, Yoel is also just as good on the feet if you cannot control the distance, which it was clear from the Bisping fight, Luke cannot, clearly cannot maintain concentration long enough to avoid being hit for more than 2 minutes. Robert Whittaker beat Yoel due to how **** well he controlled the distance in that fight and was able to land shots and take them unlike Luke. Whittaker will beat Yoel again I think, but that fight makes little sense with Yoel not making championship weight for this one and already being beat by Whittaker in his last fight.

 

Problem is Whittaker also destroyed Jacare..... so who knows what is next


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 04:56 AM

Holy ****, that was so unexpected.  I thought it was money in the bank for Rockhold. 


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 07:42 AM

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:54 AM

So just watched the card there now, Ben was poor, Adesanya was brilliant vs a guy who literally only wanted to try hug him for 3 rounds, Pedro was much better this time than last, Blaydes was disappointing, won a UD but was ankle diving for dear life.

And Romero.... damn, knew Rockhold would get KO'd but it looked like he lost half his teeth. I still think Rockhold is massively overrated, he was brilliant in the past, but since the Vitor fight his chin is gone. He had an easy run to Chris in terms of ageing fighters, and beat Weidman, who went on to have a 3 KO losses in a row. And since that has done little except beating Branch who does not look of UFC champion level.

All in all a fun card to watch, I think Adesanya was the standout for me, I was expecting him to be taken down and just dominated for 3 rounds, but his TD defense was awesome and his strike selection was perfection, really really does look like a Jon Jones copy.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:55 AM

Rockhold did the right thing imo and was winning the fight. Romero needed that KO and rockholds poor head movement presented the opportunity.

Would have liked to see 1 of them shoot for a takedown, i kind of felt like the ground would have been where this fight gets interesting. But understandable why neither fighter went for it.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:17 PM

Rockhold didn't even go for a takedown? WTF, that was a mistake

Both guys were never shoot for a TD and grapple on this fight. It was risky on both ends and they knew it.

 

Fight played out exactly how expected (didn think Romero would win tho)


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:49 PM

Both guys were never shoot for a TD and grapple on this fight. It was risky on both ends and they knew it.
 
Fight played out exactly how expected (didn think Romero would win tho)

So you thought they would kickbox for 5 rounds and yoel wouldnt catch him,lmfao
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:50 PM

Yoel is an Olympic Silver Medalist in freestyle wrestling, for me that beats BJJ all day long, Its like someone going for TD against Cormier, who is no where near the level of Yoel if you take the Olympic medal as the skill level. Luke knew his ground game would not compete against someone like that, so maintained the "Ill destroy him on the ground, the ground is my game plan" tactic to put it in Yoel's mind that he did not want to get it to the ground.

That's a great point, and also highlights the fact that BJJ is a fake martial art. Submissions do work (obviously), but the real subs come from the various wrestling styles (catch-as-catch-can), judo, sambo, etc. BJJ is a marketing gimmick - a highly successful one, but a gimmick nonetheless. How many times do we see "high level black belts" get KTFO by heavy handed wrestlers?

 

Of course the greatest art is still Tibetan Snake Boxing, of which I am a master, but the techniques are too deadly to be used, taught, or even discussed.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 04:14 PM

Both guys were never shoot for a TD and grapple on this fight. It was risky on both ends and they knew it.

Fight played out exactly how expected (didn think Romero would win tho)

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:39 PM

 

UFC should make weidman vs jacare for title shot. Romero doesnt deserve it.

 

And Weidman does? He hasn't beaten a MW in over 2 years. Yoel has the best resume in the division


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:46 PM

So you thought they would kickbox for 5 rounds and yoel wouldnt catch him,lmfao

Yep, my bad m8.

 

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 06:01 PM

Holy ****, that was so unexpected.  I thought it was money in the bank for Rockhold. 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:22 AM

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:08 AM

Wow, imagine what he would have done to one eye duckping.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:53 AM

Wow, imagine what he would have done to one eye duckping.

I honestly think Bisping would NEVER fight Romero. He knew whats up


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:35 PM

I just watched the fight an rockhold didnt throw 1 bodykick, headkick or ?kick WTF





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