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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:24 PM

I know it is an old topic but I found this article pretty interesting and I believe it is a nice topic for a thread.

 

What are you thought on this ? Do you think some UFC 'covers' some fighters ?

 

 

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:31 PM

I've posted about this.

I found it interesting that they can just remove names from the testing pool, and there's no way anybody can know about it. Very typical for this company.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:31 PM

I've posted about this.

I found it interesting that they can just remove names from the testing pool, and there's no way anybody can know about it. Very typical for this company.

Honestly, I wasnt aware and I will say this is shady as *****


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:33 PM

Abso****lutly, You have steroid machines like Ngannou and Yoel who have still not "popped", come on now, the roids are literally oozing from their necks, do not get me wrong, I love Yoel for his crazy fights, but if they are going to let some away with it they might as well just remove USADA and let roided up juice monsters fight again, might see Weidman win a title again  :lol:


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:33 PM

Ngannou would be able to breathe in the third round, if he was juicing.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:34 PM

Ngannou would be able to breathe in the third round, if he was juicing.

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:35 PM

Kimbo Slice would have laid that giant goofball out.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:35 PM

Abso****lutly, You have steroid machines like Ngannou and Yoel who have still not "popped", come on now, the roids are literally oozing from their necks, do not get me wrong, I love Yoel for his crazy fights, but if they are going to let some away with it they might as well just remove USADA and let roided up juice monsters fight again, might see Weidman win a title again  :lol:

I know.

 

It is almost as if they want to have 'a couple of freaks' on the host for highlights KOs.

 

I find it interesting that the examples you mentioned were foreign fighters. 


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:35 PM

Kimbo Slice would have laid that giant goofball out.

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:36 PM

Ngannou would be able to breathe in the third round, if he was juicing.

True.

 

Dude was dead late round 1

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:37 PM

I know.

 

It is almost as if they want to have 'a couple of freaks' on the host for highlights KOs.

 

I find it interesting that the examples you mentioned were foreign fighters. 

 

Only Americans I think are Juiceing are Woodley and TJ



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:38 PM

Only Americans I think are Juiceing are Woodley and TJ

Interesting 


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:42 PM

Abso****lutly, You have steroid machines like Ngannou and Yoel who have still not "popped", come on now, the roids are literally oozing from their necks, do not get me wrong, I love Yoel for his crazy fights, but if they are going to let some away with it they might as well just remove USADA and let roided up juice monsters fight again, might see Weidman win a title again  :lol:

 

 

Yoel was tested 9 time in 2017 (he only fought once I think)

 

https://www.mikeswic...d-ufc-fighters/

 

Yoel was also tested before this recent fight.

 

 

EDIT; according to usada website Yoel was tested 11 times in 2017


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:44 PM

Yoel was tested 9 time in 2017 (he only fought once I think)

 

https://www.mikeswic...d-ufc-fighters/

 

Yoel was also tested before this recent fight.

 

Oh Vert I knew you would comment on this, I hate to tell you but your boyfriends roids are literally on roids, still a quality guy and a true fighter so taking nothing away from him. But if he is not taking steroids that would be more surprising than Lesner 


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:45 PM

Yoel was tested 9 time in 2017 (he only fought once I think)

 

https://www.mikeswic...d-ufc-fighters/

 

Yoel was also tested before this recent fight.

 

Also in that list 2 of those fighters have since popped for steroids sooo.....


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:58 PM

Yoel was tested 9 time in 2017 (he only fought once I think)

 

https://www.mikeswic...d-ufc-fighters/

 

Yoel was also tested before this recent fight.

Thats exactly the controvery about this article, Vert.

 

We are not saying Romero is not being tested tho


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:02 PM

Also in that list 2 of those fighters have since popped for steroids sooo.....

 

that doesnt mean anything....



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:08 PM

Only Americans I think are Juiceing are Woodley and TJ

 

TJ was tested 14 times in 2017 and 2 x's this year

 

Woodley tested 8 times in 2017 and 0 times this year

 

 

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:15 PM

Thats exactly the controvery about this article, Vert.

 

We are not saying Romero is not being tested tho

 

The article refers to fights that are 'retired' or 'semi retired' ie Ronda, brock, gsp etc...

 

I dont think there is a problem with active fighters...thats where I think you are getting confused.



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:29 PM

I'm just going to come right out and say it. Romero is a roid cheat.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:30 PM

The article refers to fights that are 'retired' or 'semi retired' ie Ronda, brock, gsp etc...

 

I dont think there is a problem with active fighters...thats where I think you are getting confused.

 

Don't think Vert is actually reading what the Article is saying....


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:30 PM

Don't think Vert is actually reading what the Article is saying....

I dont think so either


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:36 PM

Have you seen some of these facilities these fighters go to? Some of these look more like scientific laboratories than ACTUAL scientific laboratories, and they look nothing like gyms.

Do you guys really believe that with the money and research going into some of these guys that they are helpless against the USADA? Hell, even junkies have figured out homegrown methods for passing drug tests.

I can't believe I bother to debate with some of you knuckleheads.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:37 PM

Don't think Vert is actually reading what the Article is saying....

 

SO you are saying active fighters are cheating the system and not being tested? Who do you suspect is doing this?



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:42 PM

Have you seen some of these facilities these fighters go to? Some of these look more like scientific laboratories than ACTUAL scientific laboratories, and they look nothing like gyms.

Do you guys really believe that with the money and research going into some of these guys that they are helpless against the USADA? Hell, even junkies have figured out homegrown methods for passing drug tests.

^^THIS.

People cheat their probation officer once a month all the **** time. And that's their goddamn freedom on the line, not a six month suspension from your job.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:58 PM

Ngannou would be able to breathe in the third round, if he was juicing.

 

I think he's own something but it's not helping him.  He doesn't need to be 270-275 and cut.  He was mid 250s weigh in just a couple of years ago so you can't tell me he cut 10 pounds past the heavyweight limit.  He's geared but he's huge and he's fast.  He hits hard and they wanted to push him.  I swear he had a minimum of 25 pounds on Stipe most likely 30 and people wanna give Stipe chit for beating him 50-44.

 

lol yeah you go try and deal with some dude that swole up 20 pounds in 2 years and could punch through an engine block.  Dipchits


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:52 PM

SO you are saying active fighters are cheating the system and not being tested? Who do you suspect is doing this?

 

Ngannou, Yoel, TJ, Cyborg, Nunes with a slight hint towards Woodley just because he spends so much time moaning how does he ever have time to look as jacked as he does



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:52 AM

But they couldn't protect Brock from being detected?
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:55 AM

But they couldn't protect Brock from being detected?

 

They literally did.... as soon as 200 was done he they revealed he popped before the fight... my guess, UFC gave him an insane contract to fight, they did not want to keep him after his 200 performance so released the test results so his contract would be void


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:33 AM

Doesn't USADA work for the UFC? The whole system is fraudulent. Watch Jon Jones get off light while Machida gets 2 years for some fake PED because they don't need him


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:11 AM

Jones will likely get off cause it's becoming more & more clear that he wasn't benefiting from any performance enhancing drugs.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:57 AM

Ngannou, Yoel, TJ, Cyborg, Nunes with a slight hint towards Woodley just because he spends so much time moaning how does he ever have time to look as jacked as he does

 

I'd scratch Woodley from that list just on the grounds of how much he hates Dana. If they pushed him to cheat I'm sure he'd blow the whistle on the whole thing or use the leverage to get what he wants.

 

It's probably his hate for the UFC brass that fuels his lifting motivation to make dem gainz.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:06 PM

Ngannou, Yoel, TJ, Cyborg, Nunes with a slight hint towards Woodley just because he spends so much time moaning how does he ever have time to look as jacked as he does

 

All of these fighters are being tested up the **** bro lol....your argument holds no water.... Too bad USADA doesnt post actual dates as we could use this to see if a fighter has a large gap between tests. 

 

2017

 

Athlete Name   Test Count   Sport   Francis Ngannou   11  

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Athlete Name   Test Count   Sport   Yoel Romero   11   Mixed Martial Arts   Athlete Name   Test Count   Sport   Cristiane Justino   14   Mixed Martial Arts Athlete Name   Test Count   Sport   TJ Dillashaw   14   Mixed Martial Arts Athlete Name   Test Count   Sport   Amanda Nunes   9   Mixed Martial Arts Athlete Name   Test Count   Sport   Tyron Woodley   8   Mixed Martial Arts

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:55 PM

I'd scratch Woodley from that list just on the grounds of how much he hates Dana. If they pushed him to cheat I'm sure he'd blow the whistle on the whole thing or use the leverage to get what he wants.

 

It's probably his hate for the UFC brass that fuels his lifting motivation to make dem gainz.

Nah, because he knows he is a **** boring fighter that cannot make it anywhere else without help.
If Dana helped him cheat, he would suck Dana **** better than Rhonda ever did.



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:52 PM

Doesn't USADA work for the UFC? The whole system is fraudulent. Watch Jon Jones get off light while Machida gets 2 years for some fake PED because they don't need him

Yep.

 

They are probably just waiting for the 'dust to settle' 


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:17 PM

Yoel was tested 9 time in 2017 (he only fought once I think)

 

https://www.mikeswic...d-ufc-fighters/

 

Yoel was also tested before this recent fight.

 

 

EDIT; according to usada website Yoel was tested 11 times in 2017

More than a lot of guys lol so maybe there is something to this "conspiracy" just in the other direction.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:08 PM

I know it is an old topic but I found this article pretty interesting and I believe it is a nice topic for a thread.
 
What are you thought on this ? Do you think some UFC 'covers' some fighters ?
 
 
 
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Absolutely. Where there's money, corruption of some sort typically follows.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:28 PM

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:11 PM

All i know is this is sum BS. 

 

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:22 PM

I think that most certainly there is some manipulation,the obvious being the Brock Lesnar case.

 

So then that makes USADA not a legit testing business either because they SHOULD not agree to ANY type of cover up,let us run the testing how we need and no interference.Then comes the part that matters >>>$$$$.The UFC fits the bill,the UFC does not want headliner cards ruined,why we also hear the often failed test AFTER the show even though likely known days,weeks in advance.

 

The this so called legality issue,give the fighters their fair chance to prove not guilty,Well if your samples prove guilty,i am sorry but you are guilty of being doped with illegal chemicals in your body,it doesn't matter how they got there,they are there.

Simple really,levy very large fines to offset costs,never mind these bs holiday's.

 

Then you have to think about the entire process and how much money is spent by the big schools/teams/trainers to learn how to cheat the testing.How much warning does a fighter get,what if they arrive and the fighter is not there,is he a big name on the card or a meaningless name,i believe it all matters and nothing is 100% legit.

 

I believed then and still believe that the ONLY reason USADA was brought on board was to convince some places that were banning MMA to come on board ,NY being a biggie and to give them hope of getting MMA into the Olympics because that would really give the sport huge credibility.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 08:20 PM


I believed then and still believe that the ONLY reason USADA was brought on board was to convince some places that were banning MMA to come on board ,NY being a biggie and to give them hope of getting MMA into the Olympics because that would really give the sport huge credibility.


I don't think mixed martial arts should be in the Olympics. Fighters take too much damage. I don't think anyone in this sport should have an amateur career that spans that long. I don't think too many fighters would agree to it, either. The better fighters will be jumping to the pros as soon as I can, anyway. It's not like boxing or wrestling, we're kids start doing it when they're really young. Most people don't jump into mixed martial arts until they're adults.

As an Olympic sport, it would be pointless. We wouldn't see the best athletes in the world competing, just the dip-****s who get talked into competing at the highest levels in one of the most dangerous sports for free.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 07:19 AM

I think he's own something but it's not helping him. He doesn't need to be 270-275 and cut. He was mid 250s weigh in just a couple of years ago so you can't tell me he cut 10 pounds past the heavyweight limit. He's geared but he's huge and he's fast. He hits hard and they wanted to push him. I swear he had a minimum of 25 pounds on Stipe most likely 30 and people wanna give Stipe chit for beating him 50-44.

lol yeah you go try and deal with some dude that swole up 20 pounds in 2 years and could punch through an engine block. Dipchits



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