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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:05 PM

You live in Hongcover right?

 

I have a company out there that wants to contract me on multiple projects for the next 5 years or so in the lower mainland. But I dont think it would be worth it just from cost of living in that hole.

How much is a typical 3 bedroom to rent in or around there. There are a couple towers going up, I assume downtown. So something within reason around there. Not looking for Abbotsford or that type of distance. I know buying is beyond retarded, but dont know how bad the rents are.

 



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:24 PM

wrong section!

 

and no i havent lived there since i was a kid.  im like 5 or 6 hours east.  its pretty much about the same cost of living here though unfortunately. we dont have enough housing and the market has skyrocketed over the last few years.

 

if u dont want to live in the lower mainland and commute or take the skytrain into downtown youll be paying out the angus to stay there

 

and a 3 bedroom? man good luck with that.  the best youll find in the city is apartments and u wont have much living room. you better be rolling in the conor mcgregor money otherwise those 3 bedrooms are gonna be more like closets.

 

the whole greater vancouver region is pretty much the most expensive place in canada to live.  they say BC stands for Bring Cash,  and its no lie. its not hard to find work. its hard to find a place to stay that you can afford, and even if you have lots of money and want to live in the city youll still be living in an apartment. thats pretty much all that it is.

 

i mean the cheapest you can find is like in the downtown east side area.  if you dont mind living around homeless people, drug addicts and hookers and you dont mind getting your car broken into on the regular.  i got a buddy who moved out there and hes living in a one bedroom apartment shack in that area and works like right next to the safe injection site on east hastings and he has to dodge syringes and broken crack pipes just to get inside the place hes living at. no lie, that chit is pretty rough out there, its like the ghetto. but unless youre hauling in the dough thats like the only affordable option to find affordable housing there

 

i guess it gets better the farther towards the outskirts you go.  i would suggest maple ridge but they havent finished building a skytrain link there yet. surrey wouldnt be hard to find a place either but i hope u dont mind being surrounded by gangsters, crime, and east indians all around you, otherwise you go to langley.   burnaby, richmond, coquitllam and new west would be other places to look into if u dont mind commuting on the skytrain (its pretty cheap for a day pass anyways and gets you anywhere real fast)

 

but if ur looking for a place in the city good luck. its all apartments there and a small 2 bedroom apartment outside of the DTES ghetto could be very well easilly run you back well over 1500 a month. otherwise youre at the mercy of the hotels.   you could spend $500 grand and buy a nice big roomy house with a nice yard in most places in canada, but that wouldnt even get you a one bedroom condo with a view over in vancouver. so i can only imagine how bad the rent would be.

 

im not really the guy to talk to on that matter. thats not a place i want to live.  way too many people, way too much traffic, way too expensive.  i guess you would have to look on the internet for that kind of stuff if youre serious about it, but nonetheless i know its not going to be cheap finding a place in the main part of the city aside from the downtown eastside and all its mould infested rundown shacks with drug addicts, bums and crime all around that you really wouldnt be able to avoid.

 

i dont know man im not the guy to give advice here. im not sure what the rent is like out there but i know you'd be getting f*cked and i know vancouver is currently sitting at the 3rd most unaffordable city in the world and the most unaffordable in all of canada, even well above toronto,  so good luck finding a place where all your money wont be swallowed up by rent, gas, food and utilities. it wont be easy. u need to have 2 or 3 people working all the time just to make ends there i figure.

 

but if ur working out in the lower mainland why not find a place out there too? i mean it doesnt have to be smack dab in vancouver does it?  cause any of the surrounding areas should be alot more cheaper and u wouldnt have as big of a problem finding a place to rent i would figure.   then again like i said im like 5 hours out from there and still im lucky just to find a place when i did cause right now we're in the middle of a housing crisis and our wallets are getting raped real good too.  but thats just mainly because of the sunshine tax we gotta pay simply for living in paradise.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:37 PM

wrong section!

 

and no i havent lived there since i was a kid.  im like 5 or 6 hours east.  its pretty much about the same cost of living here though unfortunately. we dont have enough housing and the market has skyrocketed over the last few years.

 

if u dont want to live in the lower mainland and commute or take the skytrain into downtown youll be paying out the angus to stay there

 

and a 3 bedroom? man good luck with that.  the best youll find is apartments and u wont have much living room.

 

the whole greater vancouver region is pretty much the most expensive place in canada to live.  they say BC stands for Bring Cash,  and its no lie. its not hard to find work. its hard to find a place to stay that you can afford, and even if you have lots of money and want to live in the city youll still be living in an apartment. thats pretty much all that it is.

 

i mean the cheapest you can find is like in the downtown east side area.  if you dont mind living around homeless people, drug addicts and hookers and you dont mind getting your car broken into on the regular.  i got a buddy who moved out there and hes living in a one bedroom apartment shack in that area and works like right next to the safe injection site on east hastings and he has to dodge syringes and broken crack pipes just to get inside the place hes living at. no lie, that chit is pretty rough out there, its like the ghetto. but unless youre hauling in the dough thats like the only affordable option to find affordable housing there

 

i guess it gets better the farther towards the outskirts you go.  i would suggest maple ridge but they havent finished building a skytrain link there yet. surrey wouldnt be hard to find a place either but i hope u dont mind being surrounded by gangsters, crime, and east indians all around you, otherwise you go to langley.   burnaby, richmond, coquitllam and new west would be other places to look into if u dont mind commuting on the skytrain (its pretty cheap for a day pass anyways and gets you anywhere real fast)

 

but if ur looking for a place in the city good luck. its all apartments there and a small 2 bedroom apartment outside of the DTES ghetto could be very well run you back well over 1500 a month. otherwise youre at the mercy of the hotels.   you could spend $500 grand and get a nice big roomy house with a huge yard in most places in canada, but that wouldnt even get you a one bedroom apartment with a view over there. so i can only imagine how bad the rent would be.

 

im not really the guy to talk to on that matter. thats not a place i want to live.  way too many people, way too much traffic, way too expensive.  i guess you would have to look on the internet for that kind of stuff if youre serious about it, but nonetheless i know its not going to be cheap finding a place in the main part of the city aside from the downtown eastside and all its mould infested rundown shacks with drug addicts, bums and crime all around that you really wouldnt be able to avoid.

 

i dont know man im not the guy to give advice here. but i know vancouver is currently sitting at the 3rd most unaffordable city in the world and the most unaffordable in all of canada, even well above toronto,  so good luck finding a place where all your money wont be swallowed up by rent, gas, food and utilities. it wont be easy. u need to have 2 or 3 people working all the time just to make ends there i figure.

**** I thought you were there.
Someone on here is around there.

Twentyflo maybe?

1500 for a 2 bedroom would suck, but this offer came out of nowhere, 212 million in projects and they wanted to hire me to run one of their jobs as they are low on good leads. I said I wouldn't work for them, only contract. So they want to fly me out and go over the details if I am interested, but I knew its an expensive ****. So I guess if they are desperate, they can pay for it too.

I am not in the market for east hastings, would bring my son with me, so I would need a half assed decent area.

Figured I would ask you because I thought you lived there. Wife isnt to big on the idea, but I made a good fortune off the last project I was on with them.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:54 PM

oh.   

 

lol well if you need a half assed decent area u dont want to be looking in the city. if you want anything decent, the price really shouldnt be an issue at all because ull pretty much need to be swimming in piles of conor mcgregor money just to be able to get by and make some nice bank.

 

i mean maybe if u can get the wife and kid a full time job u might be able to swing it. u wanna know why they call it hongcouver?   because a greater part of the city is loaded up with asians who either immigrate there filthy stinking rich and dont need to worry about money,  or they all have like 15 people living in the same cramped up tiny little apartment and they all work, and split the cost of the rent and bills and everything just so they can be able to save up a whole bunch of money for themselves, and eventually buy a nice car and a house somewhere far away from there.  or they buy out another condo in the city and then rent it out to other people for unbelieveable prices and rake in huge piles of dough, while they continue to live in the same old place with 20 of their other friends and relatives.

 

its the same like that in Surrey, only not so much chinese and asians, but its more the people from pakistan and india doing it. aside from all the druggies and gangsters, the pakis pretty much run the show over there. if youre a white guy living in surrey who isnt gangbanging or selling drugs or pimping hos, then youre a minority over there! one of my coworkers is east indian and he goes out there every other weekend to see some of his family.    but yeah.  its pretty f*cked up living anywhere in southern bc i figure.  especially on the coast.

 

i would just look for a place in the greater van area. it would probably be alot easier and more affordable. but u wont be able to escape the traffic either way.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:02 PM

i think either g-row or brewster lives out there. or in the area. or used to anyways.

 

i think it was brewster.   but yeah i dont think he's still around.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:44 PM

i think either g-row or brewster lives out there. or in the area. or used to anyways.

i think it was brewster. but yeah i dont think he's still around.


im pretty sure at least one of them is dead :(

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:51 PM

im pretty sure at least one of them is dead :(

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:56 PM

wasnt it defsteve who was a mod who had the owl avatar?

 

i dont fooking remember.   this place has ran through so many mods. the few that remain must have jimmies made of pure diamond.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:31 AM

yes, he put the ban in ban, fkn' Deftone groupie owl.. obviously Sober is sleeping or he would

have moved this thread, ...  unless of course IDYB is in the UFC, Then leave it here -


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:44 AM

i've been training in the art of GSP nut huggery for years and i am a living, breathing, vast encyclopedia of Georges St. Pierre knowledge. i feel as if this thread still belongs in the UFC section, and that the placement of this thread wasn't in fact a mistake.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:13 AM

You live in Hongcover right?

 

I have a company out there that wants to contract me on multiple projects for the next 5 years or so in the lower mainland. But I dont think it would be worth it just from cost of living in that hole.

How much is a typical 3 bedroom to rent in or around there. There are a couple towers going up, I assume downtown. So something within reason around there. Not looking for Abbotsford or that type of distance. I know buying is beyond retarded, but dont know how bad the rents are.

I'm from Vancouver, but since you called it a hole when it is fact one of the best cities in the world to live in, you can find all the info you want online hah.

 

One thing I will say, is IDYB's estimates for the price of a 2 bedroom apt in Vancouver itself are quite low unless you don't mind living in a dumpy basement suite....maybe. If you want to live in a tower like you mentioned there is also the Metrotown area in Burnaby and New Westminster. Both are on the Skytrain route. But I'd be surprised if you find anything much under $2k a month for a 2 bedroom even there. I was paying $1750 a month over 5 years ago, but that was a pretty nice place.



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:25 PM

I'm from Vancouver, but since you called it a hole when it is fact one of the best cities in the world to live in, you can find all the info you want online hah.

 

One thing I will say, is IDYB's estimates for the price of a 2 bedroom apt in Vancouver itself are quite low unless you don't mind living in a dumpy basement suite....maybe. If you want to live in a tower like you mentioned there is also the Metrotown area in Burnaby and New Westminster. Both are on the Skytrain route. But I'd be surprised if you find anything much under $2k a month for a 2 bedroom even there. I was paying $1750 a month over 5 years ago, but that was a pretty nice place.

It has one of the highest costs of living in the world, owned by foreigners which is the reason your Government has brought so many laws forward before they fully take over the lower mainland, you are run between the Liberals, Democrats and the Green party and literally go against your economy in the name of saving trees, which you then tear down and sell at discount prices. The drug epidemic is so overblown in and around that area that where I am we could have 100 years of drug deaths and not even catch up to yours in a single year.

Add in the loonie hippies who are to stupid to understand society, I would say that yes, Vancouver is a hole. Just because people live there doesn't make it some form of utopia. Pigs live in their own ****, doesn't mean I wouldn't point out they live in their own **** no matter how much they love it.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:25 PM

oh.   

 

lol well if you need a half assed decent area u dont want to be looking in the city. if you want anything decent, the price really shouldnt be an issue at all because ull pretty much need to be swimming in piles of conor mcgregor money just to be able to get by and make some nice bank.

 

i mean maybe if u can get the wife and kid a full time job u might be able to swing it. u wanna know why they call it hongcouver?   because a greater part of the city is loaded up with asians who either immigrate there filthy stinking rich and dont need to worry about money,  or they all have like 15 people living in the same cramped up tiny little apartment and they all work, and split the cost of the rent and bills and everything just so they can be able to save up a whole bunch of money for themselves, and eventually buy a nice car and a house somewhere far away from there.  or they buy out another condo in the city and then rent it out to other people for unbelieveable prices and rake in huge piles of dough, while they continue to live in the same old place with 20 of their other friends and relatives.

 

its the same like that in Surrey, only not so much chinese and asians, but its more the people from pakistan and india doing it. aside from all the druggies and gangsters, the pakis pretty much run the show over there. if youre a white guy living in surrey who isnt gangbanging or selling drugs or pimping hos, then youre a minority over there! one of my coworkers is east indian and he goes out there every other weekend to see some of his family.    but yeah.  its pretty f*cked up living anywhere in southern bc i figure.  especially on the coast.

 

i would just look for a place in the greater van area. it would probably be alot easier and more affordable. but u wont be able to escape the traffic either way.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:45 PM

It has one of the highest costs of living in the world, owned by foreigners which is the reason your Government has brought so many laws forward before they fully take over the lower mainland, you are run between the Liberals, Democrats and the Green party and literally go against your economy in the name of saving trees, which you then tear down and sell at discount prices. The drug epidemic is so overblown in and around that area that where I am we could have 100 years of drug deaths and not even catch up to yours in a single year.

Add in the loonie hippies who are to stupid to understand society, I would say that yes, Vancouver is a hole. Just because people live there doesn't make it some form of utopia. Pigs live in their own ****, doesn't mean I wouldn't point out they live in their own **** no matter how much they love it.

 

 

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:26 PM

It has one of the highest costs of living in the world, owned by foreigners which is the reason your Government has brought so many laws forward before they fully take over the lower mainland, you are run between the Liberals, Democrats and the Green party and literally go against your economy in the name of saving trees, which you then tear down and sell at discount prices. The drug epidemic is so overblown in and around that area that where I am we could have 100 years of drug deaths and not even catch up to yours in a single year.

Add in the loonie hippies who are to stupid to understand society, I would say that yes, Vancouver is a hole. Just because people live there doesn't make it some form of utopia. Pigs live in their own ****, doesn't mean I wouldn't point out they live in their own **** no matter how much they love it.

 

yeah pretty much the whole area is a drug infested crime haven but the best place to get away from all that hubbub is north van and whistler.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:54 PM

mods please ban mozzez and idyb for discussing this in the UFC section


 

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:15 PM

mods please ban mozzez and idyb for discussing this in the UFC section


I figured they would have moved it already. Not sure why they havent.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:20 PM

I figured they would have moved it already. Not sure why they havent.

 

sober saw it, hes just a terrible mod


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:46 PM

sober saw it, hes just a terrible mod

 

 

reported.

 

enjoy your ban mr. wang.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:27 PM

sober saw it, hes just a terrible mod

?

 

The first time I saw it I liked Zerk's post and moved it.  


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:14 PM

?
 
The first time I saw it I liked Zerk's post and moved it.


Oh just go along with it sober geez
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:15 PM

Oh just go along with it sober geez

 

 

why are you not bant?

 

have the mods not received the report?


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:16 PM

why are you not bant?
 
have the mods not received the report?


I paid off mcmax and juice

 

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:37 PM

Oh just go along with it sober geez

BANT.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:50 PM

BANT.

 

such disrespect towards the corrupt one doesnt just warrant a 25 tew life ban from the forum. it also deserves the electric chair

 

dont let this mouth-breathing bible-thumping milk-drinking jabroni push you around like that


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:28 PM

It has one of the highest costs of living in the world, owned by foreigners which is the reason your Government has brought so many laws forward before they fully take over the lower mainland, you are run between the Liberals, Democrats and the Green party and literally go against your economy in the name of saving trees, which you then tear down and sell at discount prices. The drug epidemic is so overblown in and around that area that where I am we could have 100 years of drug deaths and not even catch up to yours in a single year.

Add in the loonie hippies who are to stupid to understand society, I would say that yes, Vancouver is a hole. Just because people live there doesn't make it some form of utopia. Pigs live in their own ****, doesn't mean I wouldn't point out they live in their own **** no matter how much they love it.

High cost of living doesn't enter into it when strictly speaking in terms of whether it's a great city or not, and you tend to get what you pay for. Foreign ownership is a problem but it is what it is, most free countries in the world don't regulate such things. And as long as they actually live in the homes they buy there's not much you can complain about. Though to some degree that is an issue, it is apparently much smaller than people like to complain about as evidence by recent studies/reports on the issue. Plus the rules were not put in place to control foreign ownership, they were put in to control speculation. Need to get your facts straight, though I guess that's asking a bit much from you.

 

As for going against our economy, you know BC has the best economy in the country right? hah

 

The drug deaths are bad yeah, but it is in a tiny tiny area, not something that you would ever notice living in 99.9999% of the city.

 

The BC Liberal party is not the same as the Federal Liberals, they were actually renamed from the old Social Credit party which was a pretty right wing group.

 

Loonie hippies? Haven't seen many since the 60's. Too many hipsters for my liking though hah.

 

Never said it was a utopia, but all over the world it is recognised as one of the best cities in the world to live in and has been for many many years. And by one of the best i mean top 5, often coming in in the top 3. Of course you would know better than studies and surveys made by people who do that sort of thing for a living right? haha.

 

I know facts don't mean much to people like you so I'll stop now, but maybe just do everyone a favor and continue living in whatever little hick town you prefer. Vancouver is full of great stuff, but you wouldn't appreciate it anyways.



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:30 PM

yeah pretty much the whole area is a drug infested crime haven but the best place to get away from all that hubbub is north van and whistler.

You know that's not true hah. I lived there for a long time and never once saw or was affected even remotely by crime, not was anyone I ever knew.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:34 AM

You know that's not true hah. I lived there for a long time and never once saw or was affected even remotely by crime, not was anyone I ever knew.

 

 

yeah i know i like to exaggerate a little. there is crime  mainly just the druggies just stealing random chit out of cars to get more drugs with. and lots of bar fights late at night and whatnot. but that kind of chit happens anywhere. most of the time whenever they gotta haul off a dead body, its because someone overdosed on fentanyl laced heroin and chit and not because of violence. but i know Surrey can get a little sketchy with the gangs and chit. but if u dont **** around with that stuff or associate with those people then u dont really need to worry about getting your place shot up in a drive by or anything.  

 

all and all id say i figure its a rather safe place.one of my older friends from back in the day still lives and works out there in the sketchiest neighboorhood in all of canada and he doesnt seem to mind it, despite dodging broken crack pipes and needles all the time lol


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 08:01 AM

yeah i know i like to exaggerate a little. there is crime  mainly just the druggies just stealing random chit out of cars to get more drugs with. and lots of bar fights late at night and whatnot. but that kind of chit happens anywhere. most of the time whenever they gotta haul off a dead body, its because someone overdosed on fentanyl laced heroin and chit and not because of violence. but i know Surrey can get a little sketchy with the gangs and chit. but if u dont **** around with that stuff or associate with those people then u dont really need to worry about getting your place shot up in a drive by or anything.  

 

all and all id say i figure its a rather safe place.one of my older friends from back in the day still lives and works out there in the sketchiest neighboorhood in all of canada and he doesnt seem to mind it, despite dodging broken crack pipes and needles all the time lol

Yeah you mentioned that guy to me. That neighbourhood, and it is a teeny tiny one most people never even get near, is unique. In a bad way hah. Actually, now I think of it, that neighbourhood is the one place I was subjected to crime, just the type you describe. Left my car outside the old Woodward's building, came back an hr later and my ghetto blaster had been lifted from the car. But that was in the early 80's. Never had anything bad happen other than that in all my 35 years there. Surrey is a weird place, I'd never want to live there but that said, it's HUGE, largest municipality in Canada and generalizing about it is misleading too.

 

I can assure Mozzarella that my input on his question is spot on though. I lived there a long time and know every neighbourhood and suburb quite well. I've owned real estate there and rented all over. People are so weird, they try to find an expert who can inform them about something, then one comes along and they get their chit in a knot acting like they already know all about it hah. Or you could just go online and see that it really is a world class city with very high liveability rankings. Guess that's the internet for ya....


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:30 PM

Or you could just go online and see that it really is a world class city with very high liveability rankings. Guess that's the internet for ya....

 

 

i dont know man u can google most unaffordable cities in the world and vancouver will come up top three in any one of them.

 

sure its a nice place if u got the money, but if your on any kind of tight budget that kind of factors in to the whole liveability thing.


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