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#1 Mcmax3000

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 04:32 AM

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225: Whittaker vs. Romero 2

SATURDAY, JUNE 9, 2018

 

 

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MAIN CARD

10:00p ET

 

Robert Whittaker vs. Yoel Romero
Colby Covington vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Megan Anderson vs. Holly Holm
Andrei Arlovski vs. Tai Tuivasa
CM Punk vs. Mike Jackson


 

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PRELIMINARY CARD

8:00p ET

 

Curtis Blaydes vs. Alistair Overeem
Carla Esparza vs. Claudia Gadelha
Mirsad Bektic vs. Ricardo Lamas
Rashad Coulter vs. Chris De La Rocha

 

 

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EARLY PRELIMINARY CARD

6:15p ET

 

Rashad Evans vs. Anthony Smith
Joseph Benavidez vs. Sergio Pettis
Charles Oliveira vs. Clay Guida
Dan Ige vs. Mike Santiago



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 04:42 AM

Everyone's been talking about Overeem on the prelims but former Strawweight GOAT Carla Esparza is co-maining the prelims. Pretty gross mistreatment by the NewFC


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 05:37 AM

Everyone's been talking about Overeem on the prelims but former Strawweight GOAT Carla Esparza is co-maining the prelims. Pretty gross mistreatment by the NewFC

 

For a company that has a ton of TV cards to put on, maybe putting two former champions and four former title contenders on the same preliminary card isn't the best use of their talent...

 

Like, why is Joseph Benavidez vs. Sergio Pettis, a likely number one contender fight, buried on the Fight Pass prelims and not second or third from the top on one of these eight million Fight Night shows? You're telling me Rashad Evans is better served on Fight Pass, a service that the UFC is all but abandoning in the US at the end of the year, instead of boosting the star power of a FOX or FS1 card?

 

Hell, Overeem/Blaydes or Esparza/Gadelha could probably headline one of those Fight Night shows.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 05:43 AM

For a company that has a ton of TV cards to put on, maybe putting two former champions and four former title contenders on the same preliminary card isn't the best use of their talent...

Like, why is Joseph Benavidez vs. Sergio Pettis, a likely number one contender fight, buried on the Fight Pass prelims and not second or third from the top on one of these eight million Fight Night shows? You're telling me Rashad Evans is better served on Fight Pass, a service that the UFC is all but abandoning in the US at the end of the year, instead of boosting the star power of a FOX or FS1 card?

Hell, Overeem/Blaydes or Esparza/Gadelha could probably headline one of those Fight Night shows.

that fight is right where it belongs...

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 06:37 AM

that fight is right where it belongs...

 

A former champ against a number three ranked former number one contender belongs on the prelims? BS.

 

That said, I have a far bigger issue with Benavidez/Pettis being on Fight Pass. At least Esparza/Gadelha is near the top on the prelims for a PPV, so it'll probably be promoted.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 07:21 AM

Card makes no sense, its stacked but in the wrong places, CM Punk should be no where near a PPV, Carla vs Claudia should be on a main card as well as the Pettis fight. Blaydes vs Overeem like... thats a main card fight all day long, I love Tai but **** off, him vs Arloski should switch with Overeem vs Blaydes all day long



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:20 AM

A former champ against a number three ranked former number one contender belongs on the prelims? BS.

 

That said, I have a far bigger issue with Benavidez/Pettis being on Fight Pass. At least Esparza/Gadelha is near the top on the prelims for a PPV, so it'll probably be promoted.

 

 

Putting midgets on PPV is bad for business.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:37 AM

Pumped for this one. Solid card imo but I still think Holm vs Megan should be on the Prelims


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:03 AM

Yea Brock started out 0-1 in the UFC too. They definitely should have put Shayna Baszler ahead of him on his next PPV....


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:14 AM

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:15 AM

verts hero Yoel is currently on the mma hour promoting this fight



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:18 AM

verts hero Yoel is currently on the mma hour promoting this fight

 

Im watching right now =)


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:40 AM

Putting midgets on PPV is bad for business.

 

I didn't necessarily say put them on PPV. I said they shouldn't be buried on the Fight Pass prelims. Main card on a Fight Night show would work too.



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 10:17 AM

Be funny if Yoel wins the belt then defend it against Michael Bisping.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 11:01 AM

Where is Ozpride?

 

Do we want to do a loser leaves the board bet? hmmmm


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:14 PM

I'm backing Yoel but for me this is a real 50/50. Rate Whittaker seriously as well.
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Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:16 PM

Where is Ozpride?

 

Do we want to do a loser leaves the board bet?

 

the board wins either way!!!!!



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 02:35 PM

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 03:50 PM

So if Yoel wins.... does Whittaker get a rematch right away for a Trilogy fight? Would make little sense not to have a trilogy with this one unless its a massive KO



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 03:56 PM

So if Yoel wins.... does Whittaker get a rematch right away for a Trilogy fight? Would make little sense not to have a trilogy with this one unless its a massive KO


I can’t see them going for the trilogy right away, I think Gastelum would get the next title shot unless the fight ends in a draw or some controversy
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Posted 04 June 2018 - 03:58 PM

Romero should keep it standing


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 03:58 PM

I can’t see them going for the trilogy right away, I think Gastelum would get the next title shot unless the fight ends in a draw or some controversy

 

I like the Gastelum idea, then ideally the loser fights Weidman for the next shot or something? 


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 04:03 PM

I like the Gastelum idea, then ideally the loser fights Weidman for the next shot or something?


I would imagine Weidman will be voicing how he should get a title shot off of beating Gastelum but realistically I think he gets a fight at the November NY card against maybe Jacare or something
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Posted 04 June 2018 - 05:24 PM

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 05:24 PM

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 05:25 PM

Flyweights now being aired on fightpass recently is the best decision by the UFC in a long while.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 05:26 PM

For a company that has a ton of TV cards to put on, maybe putting two former champions and four former title contenders on the same preliminary card isn't the best use of their talent...

 

Like, why is Joseph Benavidez vs. Sergio Pettis, a likely number one contender fight, buried on the Fight Pass prelims and not second or third from the top on one of these eight million Fight Night shows? You're telling me Rashad Evans is better served on Fight Pass, a service that the UFC is all but abandoning in the US at the end of the year, instead of boosting the star power of a FOX or FS1 card?

 

Hell, Overeem/Blaydes or Esparza/Gadelha could probably headline one of those Fight Night shows.

 

I feel like we debated this topic and you were on the other side of the fence even though it was more CM oriented 


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 06:35 PM

I feel like we debated this topic and you were on the other side of the fence even though it was more CM oriented


I don’t really think anything I’m saying here contradicts what I said then...

I’m not even necessarily saying any of these fights should be on this main card... I’m saying they should spread the fights out to other cards that could use the help instead of putting so much on this one card that former champions and top contender fights are on Fight Pass.

That Liverpool card a couple of weeks ago could’ve used a Rashad Evans or a Benavidez/Pettis far more than this card.
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Posted 04 June 2018 - 06:37 PM

So if Yoel wins.... does Whittaker get a rematch right away for a Trilogy fight? Would make little sense not to have a trilogy with this one unless its a massive KO

I dont think so. It does not make sense but thats the UFC so yeah .. could happen lol


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:35 PM

LOL at Dos Anjos overlooking by keep saying when he gets 2 belts all week.

 

Fool about to get wrestled to death.

 

He should remember how that feels from khabib.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:41 PM

I like the Gastelum idea, then ideally the loser fights Weidman for the next shot or something?


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:00 PM

.. I’m saying they should spread the fights out to other cards that could use the help instead of putting so much on this one card that former champions and top contender fights are on Fight Pass.

That Liverpool card a couple of weeks ago could’ve used a Rashad Evans or a Benavidez/Pettis far more than this card.

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:02 PM

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 10:15 PM

What fights should I parlay together to win big. Perris Yoel and rdj?

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 10:46 PM

 a Pettis - Romero - RDA will certainly put some cash in your pocket

 

What fights should I parlay together to win big. Perris Yoel and rdj?


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 10:51 PM

Short of a crazy yolo moment I don't see how romero has a better chance than last time. He's getting on a bit now plus Bobby is probably not going to be fighting on one leg this time.

I think Whittaker stops a fatigued Romero in the 4th round.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:08 AM

Short of a crazy yolo moment I don't see how romero has a better chance than last time. He's getting on a bit now plus Bobby is probably not going to be fighting on one leg this time.

I think Whittaker stops a fatigued Romero in the 4th round. and still made it to a decision

 

...he gassed bcoz of the failed t/ds, he needs to keep it on the feet

 

and there is no guarantee what u get in Whitaker after the yr long injury layoff,

 

nobody thought Romero would finish Rockhold, or Bisping would ko Luke

 

anything can literally happen, it's mma .... we've all seen it


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:12 AM

.... you'd have to be a sandwich shy of a picnic not to hedge @ +215



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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:32 AM

.... great tounament card, there are no locks... u can make a case for Gadelha, ... but no wimmenz match is a lock imo

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:42 AM

...he gassed bcoz of the failed t/ds, he needs to keep it on the feet

and there is no guarantee what u get in Whitaker after the yr long injury layoff,

nobody thought Romero would finish Rockhold, or Bisping would ko Luke

anything can literally happen, it's mma .... we've all seen it

he's been training the majority of that time. made the commonwealth games wrestling team. 11 months is pretty common these days and hardly a call for "ring rust" especially for a young lion like Whittaker

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:10 AM

he's been training the majority of that time. made the commonwealth games wrestling team. 11 months is pretty common these days and hardly a call for "ring rust" especially for a young lion like Whittaker

 

 

Where is Ozpride?

 

Do we want to do a loser leaves the board bet? hmmmm

 

You gonna respond to this challenge?


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:17 AM

...he gassed bcoz of the failed t/ds, he needs to keep it on the feet

 

and there is no guarantee what u get in Whitaker after the yr long injury layoff,

 

nobody thought Romero would finish Rockhold, or Bisping would ko Luke

 

anything can literally happen, it's mma .... we've all seen it

I didn't say he'd gas, i said he'd be fatigued.  Whittaker will be fresher in rounds 4 & 5 no matter what happens because he's a younger guy, carrying less muscle and cutting less weight.

 

Of course "anything can happen".  Given that Whittaker has already beaten Yoel in unfavourable circumstances, he's logically more favoured this time.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:26 AM

You gonna respond to this challenge?


lol that's not a challenge. Vert is a certified cheat, welch and retard. Neither of those things are adjectives of one who is worthy of a bet with me.


I will however reignite the Oz vs the forum AV bet for this one
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 02:13 AM

Hoping Romero can land one of those yolo knees out of nowhere but im leaning towards Bobby.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 02:46 AM

Hoping Romero can land one of those yolo knees out of nowhere but im leaning towards Bobby.

 

 

or a punch, given Romero's fight, rest, fight, rest style, if Rob choose's to close distance when Romero is slackin' -



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