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  1. Yes (24 votes [77.42%])

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  2. No (4 votes [12.90%])

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  3. Wait to see how long she will be out for (3 votes [9.68%])

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#1 Jolldan

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:53 AM

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Ok after this fight falling through wit Valentina at the weekend I feel like this is a legitimate question. Im willing to give everyone one but this is the second fight she has had to pull out of in a row for who's know why I do hope she has a speedy recovery.

 

Lets look at some of the problems

 

  • Hasn't Fought Since December - The formula seems to be the bigger a star you are the more time you can have off. Well any time off for a champion in a totally new division is counter productive but over half a year is too long for a new champion & division.
  • Legitimacy of Title Reign - Its hard to look upon Nicco as a legitimate champ when we have no idea how she will do against the rest of the division. Its one of the reasons I hated the thought of awarding a title on TUF because most hardcore's know that those aren't the best Flyweights in the world.
  • Level Of Competition - The simple fact is the only professional fight of any note Nicco has won is against Roxanne Modafferi who with respect isn't tip of the spear level completion
  • Division Stagnation - If Nicco doesn't defend the belt and win or lose then the division can't really get going. You're going to end up with a backlog of challengers or challengers fighting each other when they should really be moving on to the champ.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:55 AM

They should scrap the entire division.
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Posted 07 September 2018 - 08:00 AM

They should scrap the entire division.

 

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 08:00 AM

In all seriousness, historically, haven't champions who miss weight been stripped? Or ineligible to win the title if they do fight the next day?

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 08:12 AM

Strip and release from the UFC


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 08:19 AM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 08:32 AM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

 

Huge difference between fighters who got their belts via actual UFC caliber opposition and have defended, compared to a TUF champion who didn't even fight 2nd place for the belt 


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 08:57 AM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

 

 

Huge difference between fighters who got their belts via actual UFC caliber opposition and have defended, compared to a TUF champion who didn't even fight 2nd place for the belt 


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:18 AM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

 

 

Might be because she's a literal nobody and every other fighter you mentioned has had plenty of fights in the UFC, when she's had a total of one, that maybe five people saw.  They've all three been in the UFC for 5 years or longer.  All three are on solid winning streaks.  She's done nothing but fart around since she won the belt.  

 

Not to mention the fact she's a 4-2 fighter.  That and the fact that she won the title from someone who was 0-2 in the UFC who was eliminated from the show, and was 21-13 overall.

 

But aside from all that, good analogy.  


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:20 AM

Which fight is gonna be promote to the main card ?



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Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:22 AM

Which fight is gonna be promote to the main card ?

Hopefully something like Jimmy Rivera vs Dodson and not Carla Esparza vs whoever.  


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 01:23 PM

Just hand the belt to Valentina so she can beat up these other tards.  Look at the flyweight rankings... TONS of L's


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 03:21 PM

They saw the votes.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 03:31 PM

They should strip Max then. Pulled out of three fights in a row and has held up the division for more than a year


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 03:31 PM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

 

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 03:54 PM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

 

 

 

logic agrees with you. unfortunately, the ufc does not. thats why they moved holloway up 3 spots on their pound for pound rankings right after he pulled out of his last fight!

 

stand by for brock lesnar, fresh off a steroid suspension and years of inactivity, getting a title shot against a multi division champion, pound for pound great, and future hall of famer.  coming up next, after the conor mcgregor show has run its course.

 

this chit has became a farce. its a shame that their CM Punk experiment didnt pan out the way that they were intending.  any time soon they oughtta be announcing their signing of Bobby Lashley


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 04:48 PM

Just shut down the division

 

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 05:32 PM

They should strip Max then. Pulled out of three fights in a row and has held up the division for more than a year

 

Stupid is as stupid does.  


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 05:50 PM

They should strip Max then. Pulled out of three fights in a row and has held up the division for more than a year

 

They will when he doesn't make weight.


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 05:56 PM

They will when he doesn't make weight.

 

He pulled out for weight cutting in his last fight, dummy 


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 06:01 PM

They should strip Max then. Pulled out of three fights in a row and has held up the division for more than a year

Why not make an apples to apples comparison?  

 

Also, how has Max held up the division for over a year if he fought in December? 


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 06:58 PM

Absolute disgrace, she needs to be cut immediately 


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:15 PM

He pulled out for weight cutting in his last fight, dummy 

 

 

They will when he doesn't make weight.

 

Are you f*cking retarded?  I'm saying he will never tip the scales at 145 again in his life therefore he will be stripped.

 

This stupid b*tch Ricco Montana was talking about literally anything besides actually getting in the cage with Shevchenko.  She said Valentina was in La La Land... lol yeah keep talking about how you're a proud Native American that can't be broken yet you back out of a fight repeatedly because you suck.  She can't even hit pads Valentina was going to kill that ho.


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:28 PM

Hopefully something like Jimmy Rivera vs Dodson and not Carla Esparza vs whoever.  

Rivera and Dodson it is.  


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:46 PM

Why not make an apples to apples comparison?  

 

Also, how has Max held up the division for over a year if he fought in December? 

 

LDD runs on a 6 month calender, aint nobody got timed for 12 months


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:50 PM

LDD runs on a 6 month calender, aint nobody got timed for 12 months

 

He's also legitimately retarded.  Valentina has beat the chit out of 3 featherweights in Nunes, Holm and Pena yet Ricco wasn't going to die...

 

B*tch beat Modaferri by decision who has 40 fights and lost half of them.  Every strawweight scheduled to fight tomorrow night would smash Ricco.


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 Every strawweight scheduled to fight tomorrow night would smash Ricco.

 

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 12:09 AM

logic agrees with you. unfortunately, the ufc does not. thats why they moved holloway up 3 spots on their pound for pound rankings right after he pulled out of his last fight!

stand by for brock lesnar, fresh off a steroid suspension and years of inactivity, getting a title shot against a multi division champion, pound for pound great, and future hall of famer. coming up next, after the conor mcgregor show has run its course.

this chit has became a farce. its a shame that their CM Punk experiment didnt pan out the way that they were intending. any time soon they oughtta be announcing their signing of Bobby Lashley

Lashley will fight the Bellator HW tourney runner up then get a title shot m8

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 12:35 AM

He's also legitimately retarded. Valentina has beat the chit out of 3 featherweights in Nunes, Holm and Pena yet Ricco wasn't going to die...

B*tch beat Modaferri by decision who has 40 fights and lost half of them. Every strawweight scheduled to fight tomorrow night would smash Ricco.

"Beat the chit out of"...? I'm going to call bullchit on that.
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Posted 08 September 2018 - 05:58 AM

Lashley will fight the Bellator HW tourney runner up then get a title shot m8

hes actually legit in mma though

 

Lashley vs Lesnar in a steel cage for the UFC Undisputed Heavyweight Championship at next years Wrestlemania. Daniel Cormier needs to throw the fight with brock just so it can happen.

 

either that, or Brock and Lashley can wrestle it out at Survivor Series or the Rumble to determine who goes on to fight DC.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 06:10 AM

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

race baiting at its finest, first it was 13 months ago, second there were no legit contenders and there still aren't, third  you are acting like he isn't fighting today lol


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 07:40 AM

I dont think she should be


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 08:29 AM

Why not make an apples to apples comparison?  

 

Also, how has Max held up the division for over a year if he fought in December? 

 

Tell me the date of Max's last fight and the date he's scheduled (plenty of time to pull out AGAIN) to fight at, and come back to me, dummy


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 08:30 AM

"Beat the chit out of"...? I'm going to call bullchit on that.

 

Valentina runs like a **** unless she's fighting a legit crack addict. You can look that up, it's true!


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 08:32 AM

Tell me the date of Max's last fight and the date he's scheduled (plenty of time to pull out AGAIN) to fight at, and come back to me, dummy

My point stands, chief.  

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 09:59 AM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

There's a massive difference, Max Woodley and Whittaker can make weight, If Nicco can't make 125 she's not the 125 pound champion

 


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 10:07 AM

There's a massive difference, Max Woodley and Whittaker can make weight, If Nicco can't make 125 she's not the 125 pound champion

 

 

She's essentially an unreliable new hire, it's not even remotely shocking that she gets stripped when the long term vets with 10+ fights don't.  


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 10:15 AM

I said no but only based on the very little i know.

 

If the story is true,she had to be transported to the Hospitol because of kidney issues,we all know why that is.

I just witnessed Dana talking about people not accepting fights and mentioning they will be out of the org. fighting elsewhere.

 

Well two things,the UFC Dana included have condoned massive weight cutting since day1 and they KNOW how dangerous and unhealthy that is.Sure nobody is supposedly forcing the weight cuts,but are they?If you want to compete,they all know weight cutting MUST be done,so imo the UFC is responsible for creating AND accepting this unsafe standard for fighters,in other words ,NOT looking out for fighter safety.

 

Instead of saying things like "i hope she will be alright" and i wish we would get rid of weight cutting,White instead says the negative,the immature and down right rude stuff.

 

Somebody like perhaps this Montano needs to get some lawyers/doctors and go after the black mailing Dana is doing,he is literally trying to FORCE fighter's hands into making these fights happen at ALL costs,including their lives.He is showing a severe lack of respect to fighters,treats them like meat,dogs,disposable heroes,let's get this **** White out of this sport and get someone better in here.

 

It is as SIMPLE as this,REMOVE any and all chance of severe weight cuts,yes it is easy to do,then you won't have last minute cancellations due to severe weight cuts.

On a side note,i remember White going after GSP to accept his next fight literally a day or two after his Bisping fight,he was threatening to take away the belt yet he allows clowns like McGinger run rampant breaking the law run free of any backlash from the UFC.To me the McGinger ordeal with no backlash PROVES the UFC has very poor standards,it is ONLY about money and nothing else.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 10:35 AM

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 10:43 AM

I dont think she should be

 

You are a pos dude..


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 12:11 PM

There's a massive difference, Max Woodley and Whittaker can make weight, If Nicco can't make 125 she's not the 125 pound champion

https://www.youtube....h?v=sGrIqbHRaGw

Nicco made 125 3 times within 2 months in the TUF house and a 4th time a couple of months later on the finale so it's not like she can't make weight. There is zero chance that Max or Woodley could do that in their division. Her ability to make weight in the future has nothing to do with Dana's decision. She doesn't sell so she doesn't keep her belt.
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Posted 08 September 2018 - 12:14 PM

Valentina runs like a **** unless she's fighting a legit crack addict. You can look that up, it's true!

 

Ricco Montana is a legit crackhead.  Valentina was gonna smoke her faster than Freddie rails a gram line of turn up.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 01:41 PM

There's a massive difference, Max Woodley and Whittaker can make weight, If Nicco can't make 125 she's not the 125 pound champion

 

"He beat some real guys to get here" (baldy referring to Till and his title shot)

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 01:43 PM

Montano's game plan to keep the title: dont cut weight, dont fight and keep that belt.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 01:53 PM

sources now claiming she almost went into cardiac arrest 

 

if you almost go into cardiac arrest while trying to make weight, you're not a 125er

 

juice, that show was a while ago, she might very well have been binge eating Tiramisu for the past year 


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:23 AM

sources now claiming she almost went into cardiac arrest 

 

if you almost go into cardiac arrest while trying to make weight, you're not a 125er

 

juice, that show was a while ago, she might very well have been binge eating Tiramisu for the past year 

She's saying the doctors said she "could" have gone into cardiac arrest.  Which shouldn't be surprising, when you're cutting weight, you have to keep an eye on electrolytes or your heart can say **** it.  


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:06 PM

Nicco saying she knew this could potentially happen and thats why she wanted to fight in October. Also says a bunch of other nonsense

 

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 02:01 PM

People have been calling for this for months and it's the stupidest ****ing thing.

 

Are we also stripping Max Holloway, who also hasn't defended since last December?

 

Where were the calls to strip Woodley? His last defense was 14 months ago.

 

What about Whittaker? He went a year between title defenses before 225 (and still has technically never defended the belt, although that's on Romero).

 

They all should have been stripped too, your argument in invalid.

 

Colby was stripped for much less.



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Posted 09 September 2018 - 02:53 PM

They all should have been stripped too, your argument in invalid.

Colby was stripped for much less.


Colby should have never been given a title in the first place.
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