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  1. You getting a hard on because someone disagrees with your stand on women in the UFC??? ...and I didn't know there was a 115 pd division started. You wanna clue me in on when the first fight is scheduled?? It's only been proposed, but I guarantee it's a lot easier to scout for talent in a mens division from top to bottom then it is for a single womens division. You can barely find a woman that is well rounded even among the top fighters. Clearly you're delusional and irrational concerning your views on the subject, but two years from the debut of Rouseys first fight and we won't be having this conversation anymore anyway. Publicity can only go so far when you can't deliver. I've said it more than once in so many ways already...WMMA is nothing more than a hype train soon to come to screeching halt in this organization because theirs not enough coals to drive it. As long as you've known Dana and the rest of Zuffa brass and you can't get it in your thick head that they are about money even more so then putting a prime product in front of you. Are you so slow to realize that Rousey has already wiped out the women's division as it is...what are they going to do? continue pulling people off the streets like they did with Carmouche??? Muzzle_rousey_please said You say this coz the women you seen and heard of are westerner there are plenty of female MMA fighters out in Asia in this weight range let alone Europe...... Some people are too one eyed ...... You seriously believe they haven't scouted women in Asia??? that's probably the first place they looked. With so few prospects they cant help but look overseas. You sound dumb and narrow minded and late to the party.
  2. women boxing doesnt work, so why does women mma would work? because they're 2 entirely difference sports.... It seems like you just defeated your entire argument with that statement. Women's boxing couldn't take off because there wasn't enough talent to carry the sport hence it failed once the few who were actually halfway decent at the sport retired and I can only name one off hand (Laila Ali...i'd be very impressed if anyone can name another). The same holds true for women's MMA which makes it even worse for women because they now have to learn more than one discipline. Once again there are less than a handful that excel and the rest are just bottom feeders....jpc_ultimate has a very good point about boxing and MMA drawing practically the same demograph of fans. Women's MMA on a platform of Invicta is fine, but on a platform of the UFC where you have the best in the world it's doomed to fail. You can't have the top to bottom disparity that exists now and expect it to work and it's not going to fix itself anytime soon. but there is enough talent in WMMA..... and of course there won't be enough publicity until they do hit the UFC, that goes for every division in the sport. I mean look at the 135 and 145 divisions. Yea they were semi popular on WEC but they were nothing compared to what it is today in the UFC. If the UFC can add a 125 division and a ****ing 115 division they could certainty add women divisions. What i don't get is....what is it harming if it comes to the UFC? How could this possibly end up worse than what it was? If you don't like watching women fight then take a break and come back. women boxing doesnt work, so why does women mma would work? because they're 2 entirely difference sports.... It seems like you just defeated your entire argument with that statement. Women's boxing couldn't take off because there wasn't enough talent to carry the sport hence it failed once the few who were actually halfway decent at the sport retired and I can only name one off hand (Laila Ali...i'd be very impressed if anyone can name another). The same holds true for women's MMA which makes it even worse for women because they now have to learn more than one discipline. Once again there are less than a handful that excel and the rest are just bottom feeders....jpc_ultimate has a very good point about boxing and MMA drawing practically the same demograph of fans. Women's MMA on a platform of Invicta is fine, but on a platform of the UFC where you have the best in the world it's doomed to fail. You can't have the top to bottom disparity that exists now and expect it to work and it's not going to fix itself anytime soon. but there is enough talent in WMMA..... and of course there won't be enough publicity until they do hit the UFC, that goes for every division in the sport. I mean look at the 135 and 145 divisions. Yea they were semi popular on WEC but they were nothing compared to what it is today in the UFC. If the UFC can add a 125 division and a ****ing 115 division they could certainty add women divisions. What i don't get is....what is it harming if it comes to the UFC? How could this possibly end up worse than what it was? If you don't like watching women fight then take a break and come back. You getting a hard on because someone disagrees with your stand on women in the UFC??? ...and I didn't know there was a 115 pd division started. You wanna clue me in on when the first fight is scheduled?? It's only been proposed, but I guarantee it's a lot easier to scout for talent in a mens division from top to bottom then it is for a single womens division. You can barely find a woman that is well rounded even among the top fighters. Clearly you're delusional and irrational concerning your views on the subject, but two years from the debut of Rouseys first fight and we won't be having this conversation anymore anyway. If the casual or even hardcore fan can only name a handful of fighters than there's not enough talent. Publicity can only go so far when you can't deliver and the women's division has had plenty of time to grow even since the EliteFC days. I've said it more than once in so many ways already...WMMA is nothing more than a hype train soon to come to screeching halt in this organization because theirs not enough coals to drive it. As long as you've known Dana and the rest of Zuffa brass and you can't get it in your thick head that they are about money even more so then putting a prime product in front of you. Are you so slow to realize that Rousey has already wiped out the women's division as it is...what are they going to do? continue pulling people off the streets like they did with Carmouche??? If you're going to have women on this level fighting (which is supposed to be the very best in the world) matchmaking is always going to be a nightmare no matter how long you look. That's why women's MMA can survive in Invicta and other smaller/local shows but not here.
  3. women boxing doesnt work, so why does women mma would work? because they're 2 entirely difference sports.... It seems like you just defeated your entire argument with that statement. Women's boxing couldn't take off because there wasn't enough talent to carry the sport hence it failed once the few who were actually halfway decent at the sport retired and I can only name one off hand (Laila Ali...i'd be very impressed if anyone can name another). The same holds true for women's MMA which makes it even worse for women because they now have to learn more than one discipline. Once again there are less than a handful that excel and the rest are just bottom feeders....jpc_ultimate has a very good point about boxing and MMA drawing practically the same demograph of fans. Women's MMA on a platform of Invicta is fine, but on a platform of the UFC where you have the best in the world it's doomed to fail. You can't have the top to bottom disparity that exists now and expect it to work and it's not going to fix itself anytime soon.
  4. Get over it bro, WMMA is here to stay Based upon what reasoning???
  5. yeah but securing the womens division is worth Bellator not doing it first .. Bellator is paying fighters more and more !! Cant wait till they PPV Having a women's division isn't going to save your organization nor make it. Ask the founders of EliteXC and Strikeforce. MMA is a male dominated sport with a male dominated fan base/demograph that appreciates substance more than entertainment. Womens MMA will never evolve enough to stay relevant because womens inner nature and physical structure won't allow it with the exception of some rare athletes. 90% will get to a certain level and stay there while the other 10% dominate and that gets boring. As a matter of fact I don't think there's a women's MMA bout any of us could recall where we were totally shocked or surprised by the outcome. It just doesn't happen. Even if you have a underdog win the underdog is not a huge underdog...it's like a 2-1 underdog (I'm not an oddsmaker so that may be wrong using that ratio, but you get my gist) Paying fighters big salaries doesn't necessarily mean anything either. Some promotions try and get away with that and end up tanking when PPV numbers and seat sales don't support the salaries they're paying. Talk to the founders of Affliction about that. Bellator doesn't have the drawing power and very few recognizable athletes to be raising salaries a whole lot. Zuffa brass is smart enough that they will match top to bottom salaries so as to prevent any mass defections and whoever they don't want they won't pay. One thing about the UFC that I will give them credit for... i don't know of any one athlete that they let go of or kicked off their roster too quickly that I can say it was a regretful decison or wished they hadn't (although maybe Marquardt, but he definitely had reached his peak in the 185 division which is where he was fighting before they let him go). http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2008/07/affliction-banned-official-salaries-affliction-payrolls-tops http://www.cagepotato.com/affliction/
  6. The best thing that can happen at this event is for Rousey to lose so we can put another gimmick experiment to rest sonner than later (ala Lesnar, Toney, and Kimbo Slice...believe me it took me a while to remember Kimbo. I had to google professional street fighter just to remember his name.) We have practically seen it all from her since her first fight. There's not another woman alive (w/ the exception of Cyborg possibly) who is able to counter anything she does on the ground so we already know what to expect. You can't teach a woman enough wrestling or jiu jitsu to get to her level...nor will they ever be able to stop her takedowns. If you think about it Lesnar (doesn't include year away from sport for sickness) and Slice were gone within two years of their pro debut in the Octagon. Rousey is a MMA fighter, but know one is close to her level to keep her busy enough to stay relevant. This sport is not designed for women athletes so only once in a blue moon will you see someone like Ronda Rousey come along who is able to garner the respect of her male peers and fans everywhere. MARK MY WORDS....TWO YEARS AND WMMA IS GONE (at least in the UFC). Even if 156 does exceptable numbers it will tail off so drastically on the next card she's on (unless its Carano called out of retirement or Cyborg she's fighting)...that they will have to subject her to co mains on a free card with the 125 championship bouts.
  7. The only thing good that came out of this fight is that Overeem and JDS look to make more sense then ever right now....and both will be highly motivated to prove themselves
  8. I particularly didn't like the way he grabbed the cage in the Mendes fight and prevented a huge slam, but it's whatever. To be fair it's kind of a natural instinct and he didn't do it the second time and got right back up. It didn't effect the fight at all. Aldo is not a cheap fighter. I'd like to see Aldo move up to 155 where there are more challenges for him. Well of course it didn't effect the fight since the slam never took place....that's a ridiculous statement. A huge slam/suplex could have turned the whole tide of that fight. Anyone who isn't blind could see that slam was about to be sans Khabilov vs Pichel and if you saw that fight you know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't care if his grabbing the cage was instinctive or not, doesn't make it right and he did it. Fighters reach out with their fingers extended sometimes to prevent fighters from moving in close on punches and takedowns. Some say it's instinctive ...I won't even venture to say if it's a dirty tactic being utilized or instinct. All I know for sure is it's still a penalty based upon commission rules, but we've all seen enough fights where the fighter on the receiving end of a poke in the eye is totally affected in the fight from that moment on.
  9. I'm from the school of thought that no champion loses any close rounds unless completely dominated so if it had been 50-45 (Aldo) all three judges I would have had no problem with it. It did seem like Edgar did a little more in the fouth and fifth rounds, but I never got the impression during the entire fight that he ever really hurt Aldo once. Aldo has finished one of his last 4 fights, so basically he's champion until he chin gives out by your logic because he can't possibly lose a decision. Yeah....I'm actually not that big a fan of Aldo....I particularly didn't like the way he grabbed the cage in the Mendes fight and prevented a huge slam, but it's whatever. That being said I don't see to many fighters being able to dominate him and I don't know any at 145. So I think he is pretty safe until he moves up. I don't think standing around eating shots for 3 rounds makes you a champion. When Cain can go 5 rounds as a heavyweight putting on the pressure it gives no excuse to lighter weight guys. All it tells me is he can make the weight limit and not get finished by smaller guys in exchange for not fighting guys his own size or bigger that could put his lights out in the 4th and 5th when he's tired. I'm just as unimpressed by Aldo as you are. I don't know if he is overrated, but he's not a great champion in my opinion. That being said unless the rumors of Pettis moving down are true I really don't see the 145 division being much of a threat to him. The Hominick fight was a fluke in my opinion so it is what it is.
  10. I'm from the school of thought that no champion loses any close rounds unless completely dominated so if it had been 50-45 (Aldo) all three judges I would have had no problem with it. It did seem like Edgar did a little more in the fouth and fifth rounds, but I never got the impression during the entire fight that he ever really hurt Aldo once. Aldo has finished one of his last 4 fights, so basically he's champion until he chin gives out by your logic because he can't possibly lose a decision. Yeah....I'm actually not that big a fan of Aldo....I particularly didn't like the way he grabbed the cage in the Mendes fight and prevented a huge slam, but it's whatever. That being said I don't see to many fighters being able to dominate him and I don't know any at 145. So I think he is pretty safe until he moves up.
  11. I'm from the school of thought that no champion loses any close rounds and must be completely dominated w/o controversy to lose a round. ...so if it had been 50-45 (Aldo) all three judges I would have had no problem with it. It did seem like Edgar did a little more in the fouth and fifth rounds, but I never got the impression during the entire fight that he ever really hurt Aldo once.
  12. ...then the UFC had better do it now meaning starting the Belfort vs Sonnen hype train and encouraging Cormier to do everything within his power to be next in line to fight Jones. WIth Cormier calling out Jones and Belfort belittling Sonnen within the last couple of weeks they can restore credibility in the title opportunities they're handing out to fighters and maintain the integrity it took to gain them.
  13. You said Jones vs Chael wasn't happening because Chael has the skillset to hold down Jones which is ludicrous considering Jones has been on his back all of what???...no seconds. If he has it must been briefly, because I certainly can't remember any. )...I was mainly wondering what link you had to the fight not happening or are u just anticipating it won't happen?
  14. You sound like a doofus in the last part of that sentence, but what link you got to the first part of the sentence? If anything the fight isn't happening because it was just for show in the first place to boost ratings for TUF...the UFC has to or will need to show some semblance of sanity by denying the fight and so they dont further damage the reputaion of the organization and the 10 years it took to get it back on it's feet again.
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