Weapon_X91 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Bones pretty much shot himself in the foot with this whole "Rashad Ducking Me" thing. I never really liked him before this. But his whole credibility is slowly going down the drain. I'm not one to bash a fighter, but to have people calling this guy the best LHW is just foolish. The only thing he has going for him is his height and reach advantage, every other tool he has, any decent, young mixed martial artist also has. People are saying his style is hard to decipher? No. It is not. Jones is a young and tall athlete with a reach that makes it difficult for fighters to hit him. Just a thought. Kudos to the guy for fighting as much as he has though. Respect........can't wait to get flamed for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 already posted tbh :cool: but yeah I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon_X91 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 yeah I know but I just needed to get that off my chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingComic Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 hah cant wait to get flamed? Ill just have to throw some water at you then cause im that guy:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC4DEEP Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 The kid is good, man. You cant deny that! His reach is definitely an advantage but its not the deciding factor. Shouldnt a professional fighter be able to adapt his game plan to compensate for such an advantage? He only has 3 years or more of mma under his belt. Thats pretty impressive in my opinion. He laid waste to Shogun in their match and Shogun is no slouch at all... that dude is always dangerous no matter the circumstance. What would it take to sway your opinion, not that Im trying to. Im just asking what asking what does he need to achieve in order for people that arent fans of his to acknowledge his skill set and talents? Not trying to flame you or anything like that. Your post was well put and didnt seem all haterish! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Jones shot himself in both feet by roundhouse kicking Rampage. It's not really fair to say the only thing he has going for him is his height/reach advantage. He's tall and lanky. Duh shouldn't he use that to his advantage? Whatever attributes you have shouldn't you use them and try to negate your opponents? Duh He's a well rounded striker, very good wrestler and decent enough at bjj. I don't think his style alone is that hard to decipher but his style on top of his physical attributes, strategy and tactics is hard to deal with. It's not so much one thing it's he's pretty good at everything which makes him extremely adaptable and he knows how to use his attributes to his advantage and he's also a decent strategist and good athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Who cares if that's all he has? It just sounds like more crying about Jones' size.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Call me crazy, but I would bet a few hundred Rashad would beat Jones. I think Jones isn't as talented as people perceive him to be, but he's very comfortable in the cage and makes his opponents very uncomfortable. Kind of like Shogun fighting Machida, he wasn't scared of the style or the fight he was confident and secure and Machida seemed like a totally different man each time he fought Shogun. I think Rampage proved being outstruck by Jones for 4 rounds and never really being hurt or damaged on the feet once despise a 12 inch reach disadvantage. Rashad has great speed and power in his strikes, he just doesn't use it when he can wrestle his way to a win, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. Rashad knows Jones though, he knows him well his striking, wrestling, he sees through the persona and unorthodox style. I think he'd go right through Jones, he'd be able to find the takedown and I think Jones striking wouldn't look so confident. I think once people can realize they are not facing the divisions most dangerous and skilled striker and they build some confidence, they'll strike a lot better. I think guys like Rashad and Machida can easily stuff the majority of Jones takedowns too. Jones is a bad matchup for Machida, the whole avid counter striker, against a guy with Munky D Luffy arms, and probably a speed advantage. Kind of hard, its like Cheik Kongo would outstrike Machida, don't think he's a better striker though. I think Jones is going to take away Machida's comfortability and that's why he will win, I think if Machida was comfortable and confident he'd have a great chance knocking out Jones, but Machida's style seems to hesitate and wait, and outpoint. Which he CANNOT do against Jones. I think Rashad can take what Jones has to give him standing and best him in the wrestling, and probably the cardio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 He's fighting Machida... A better fighter... Sounds to me like he's willing to take this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon_X91 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks dude, Im not here to hate on anyone, u gotta respect these guys. I'm just not convinced by his style. I notice how he keeps his distance, to me, that's all he has going for him. If he were the size of other LHW's, I seriously doubt he'd have such an advantage. But I do see what you mean when u say that a well prepared pro would adapt to his advantages. I'm just not all into this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon_X91 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Who cares if that's all he has? It just sounds like more crying about Jones' size.. No crying about size. Just stating my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Call me crazy' date=' but I would bet a few hundred Rashad would beat Jones. I think Jones isn't as talented as people perceive him to be, but he's very comfortable in the cage and makes his opponents very uncomfortable. Kind of like Shogun fighting Machida, he wasn't scared of the style or the fight he was confident and secure and Machida seemed like a totally different man each time he fought Shogun. I think Rampage proved being outstruck by Jones for 4 rounds and never really being hurt or damaged on the feet once despise a 12 inch reach disadvantage. Rashad has great speed and power in his strikes, he just doesn't use it when he can wrestle his way to a win, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. Rashad knows Jones though, he knows him well his striking, wrestling, he sees through the persona and unorthodox style. I think he'd go right through Jones, he'd be able to find the takedown and I think Jones striking wouldn't look so confident. I think once people can realize they are not facing the divisions most dangerous and skilled striker and they build some confidence, they'll strike a lot better. I think guys like Rashad and Machida can easily stuff the majority of Jones takedowns too. Jones is a bad matchup for Machida, the whole avid counter striker, against a guy with Munky D Luffy arms, and probably a speed advantage. Kind of hard, its like Cheik Kongo would outstrike Machida, don't think he's a better striker though. I think Jones is going to take away Machida's comfortability and that's why he will win, I think if Machida was comfortable and confident he'd have a great chance knocking out Jones, but Machida's style seems to hesitate and wait, and outpoint. Which he CANNOT do against Jones. I think Rashad can take what Jones has to give him standing and best him in the wrestling, and probably the cardio.[/quote'] Rampage admitted he was rocked at one point. Machida and Rashad will lose to Jones...badly Machida gets taken down and smashed on the ground and Rashad will get smashed on the feet. Fact: Rampage made Jones look alot worse than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORGANAMO Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 i recall rashad saying the same exact thing about jones when he took time off to recover from his hand injury after winning the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Rampage admitted he was rocked at one point. Machida and Rashad will lose to Jones...badly Machida gets taken down and smashed on the ground and Rashad will get smashed on the feet. Fact: Rampage made Jones look alot worse than he is. Ehh "Rocked at one point" a 220lb man fight night, with a 12 inch reach advantaged "sort of" rocked a much slower, older guy one time in 12 minutes? He was outstriking him the entire time...Rashad and Machida rocked Rampage WAY worse, within a lesser time frame. You don't have to believe what I say, I'd just like for you to respect it and watch for it. I think you are absurd, with thinking he will destroy Rashad or Machida, and you will realize this very soon friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon_X91 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I think Jones vs. Machida is going to turn out a lot like Rampage vs Machida. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Ehh "Rocked at one point" a 220lb man fight night' date=' with a 12 inch reach advantaged "sort of" rocked a much slower, older guy one time in 12 minutes? I think you are absurd, with thinking he will destroy Rashad or Machida, and you will realize this very soon friend.[/quote'] Well you mentioned he never really hurt or damaged him and that's simply false. We will see on if he destroys Machida and Rashad. Im not saying they can't beat him and I hope he loses but frankly i don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I think Jones vs. Machida is going to turn out a lot like Rampage vs Machida. IMO I don't see Jones fighting anything like Rampage. He'll probably come in with those 10 foot legs and try and slow Machida down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORGANAMO Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 i dunno machida is a much better counter puncher than page. Could be a very good fight and dangerous for jones if he isnt very careful with his shots. Machida is a much harder matchup for jones than tashad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon_X91 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 It should be a very interesting fight. It might just make or break the LHW division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORGANAMO Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 yeah i cant even begin to think of how the fight is gonna go. My two favorite fighters at that weight except for hendo. Cant wait for him to get in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 If forrest were motivated to fight still he could be the man to beat Jones Maybe it could be like rocky 3 and Anderson helps train him and get back that eye of the tiger :cool: Maybe with his time off his wife will give him motivation to rise up to the challenge: and forrest shows the heart that allowed him to beat shogun and Rampage. and he goes on to overcome the odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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