ENSABHANUR Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 just saw an interview whit Overeem it gets interesting at 1:55 see the interview at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZnUwTvHHuI your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 if you think he is stopping Brock's takedown your crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Roy_Fan Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 obviously... after he takes reem down and stops him with ground and pound, why the hell would it go to round 2? stupid thread, reem would be dead by the time it gets to the end of round 1, let alone round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 obviously... after he takes reem down and stops him with ground and pound' date=' why the hell would it go to round 2?stupid thread, reem would be dead by the time it gets to the end of round 1, let alone round 2[/quote'] Yes, Brock will maul him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 +1 to the OP brock gonna turtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulk Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Overeem hits hard and Brock reacts to getting punched like he's a battered wife. My money's on the reem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasopasha Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 of course not he wil tko ubereem in the first why would he go the the second round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 seriously all the people who are doubting brock are in for a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulk Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 seriously all the people who are doubting brock are in for a surprise. It's possible, but Brock hasn't had the greatest showing against heavy hitters. Carwin had him in full on Fred Ettish mode before he want spaz attack and wore himself out on Brock's forearms like he was a gorilla attacking a beehive. Cain beat him so bad I imagine Brock still breaks out in a cold sweat whenever he hears mariachi music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 It's possible' date=' but Brock hasn't had the greatest showing against heavy hitters. Carwin had him in full on Fred Ettish mode before he want spaz attack and wore himself out on Brock's forearms like he was a gorilla attacking a beehive. Cain beat him so bad I imagine Brock still breaks out in a cold sweat whenever he hears mariachi music.[/quote'] yea but brock wasn't 100%. not saying he can stand with them, but a healthy brock is a scary brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyran125 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 bottom line is, Brock needs to do what he did against Frank Mir, then he can win, not many people once they are on the ground with Brock ontop get up (love to see Brock vs Josh Barnett because both of those guys would have that gameplan). If Brock doesnt do what he did against Mir, hes lost. Pretty simple. Im yet to see Brock get hit without cowering. Against carwin or anyone. Randy Couture didnt really lay a hand on Brock, if he did, who knows if the cowering would of happened or not. Id like to see Brock vs Mir 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulk Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 yea but brock wasn't 100%. not saying he can stand with them' date=' but a healthy brock is a scary brock[/quote'] And this has been proven by his wins over Frank 'captain inconsistent' Mirr (who once lost a fight to a british midget) or oldman Randy who was fighting outside his natural weightclass? Brock has a lot of potential, but he hasn't proven anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 bottom line is' date=' Brock needs to do what he did against Frank Mir, then he can win, not many people once they are on the ground with Brock ontop get up (love to see Brock vs Josh Barnett because both of those guys would have that gameplan). If Brock doesnt do what he did against Mir, hes lost. Pretty simple. Im yet to see Brock get hit without cowering. Against carwin or anyone. Randy Couture didnt really lay a hand on Brock, if he did, who knows if the cowering would of happened or not. Id like to see Brock vs Mir 3.[/quote'] Look i like Brock, Barnett, and reem as well... He would get subd by Barnett on the ground without a doubt imo. He won't be used to that high level of submission style ground skills. I see Overeem winning in this fight by strikes again.... We're talking about K1 level kickboxer here. Brock's not going to be able to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Roy_Fan Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 of course not he wil tko ubereem in the first why would he go the the second round i already got that covered brah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 +1 to the op brock gonna turtle. +1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Roy_Fan Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Look i like Brock' date=' Barnett, and reem as well... He would get subd by Barnett on the ground without a doubt imo. He won't be used to that high level of submission style ground skills. I see Overeem winning in this fight by strikes again.... We're talking about K1 level kickboxer here. Brock's not going to be able to handle it.[/quote'] dude, barnett < mir deal w/ it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulk Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I was going to mention Overeems nasty guillotine choke, but then I remembered he's fighting Brock. He has no neck to choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Anyone wanna sig bet me then....i got reem You most have a good number of post and a history of not welching or getting banned....so no big_roy_fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 dude' date=' barnett < mir deal w/ it[/quote'] barnetts wrestling is obviously better...both have good ground game. The only thing frank has on Barnett is probably a better stand up and brock won't stand with most people with what happened imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 brock gon die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HENDO55 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Reem can strike hard but he is no where near the caliber of striker as Carwin, JDS, or Cain. Lesnar will get the take down, he always does. I doubt roided out Overeem would be able to get up as easily as the others have, if at all. If you want to know who will win a striking contest, Overeem hands down but this fight isn't going to be standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Reem can strike hard but he is no where near the caliber of striker as Carwin' date=' JDS, or Cain. Lesnar will get the take down, [b']he always does[/b]. I doubt roided out Overeem would be able to get up as easily as the others have, if at all. If you want to know who will win a striking contest, Overeem hands down but this fight isn't going to be standing. Cain thinks otherwise and overeem has no roids and did you just say that Carwin and Cain are better strikers than Overeem? you know what K-1 is? JDS i dont even think is up there but i wont argue with you there i used to be the only "hendo" on this site and there have been 2 guys lately with hendo in their name and they are both gooning it up, knock it off your givin hendo a bad name, how is he supposed to be president now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Reem can strike hard but he is no where near the caliber of striker as Carwin' date=' JDS, or Cain. Lesnar will get the take down, he always does. I doubt roided out Overeem would be able to get up as easily as the others have, if at all. If you want to know who will win a striking contest, Overeem hands down but this fight isn't going to be standing.[/quote'] Hahahaha overeem is not the caliber striker as carwin or cain you say.....lol Zip up your pants kid your mma knowledge is showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 JDS would merk Reem standing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HENDO55 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Cain thinks otherwise and overeem has no roids and did you just say that Carwin and Cain are better strikers than Overeem? you know what K-1 is? JDS i dont even think is up there but i wont argue with you there i used to be the only "hendo" on this site and there have been 2 guys lately with hendo in their name and they are both gooning it up' date=' knock it off your givin hendo a bad name, how is he supposed to be president now?[/quote'] Dude, this is an MMA forum. No need to argue. Do I know what K-1 is? Are you f'n kidding me? I live less than ten miles away from Dan Henderson. He is one of my favorites. and I probably have more MMA experience on a mat than you have in your entire life. No need to argue, right? Have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HENDO55 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Hahahaha overeem is not the caliber striker as carwin or cain you say.....lol Zip up your pants kid your mma knowledge is showing MMA knowledge? Geez, you must feel so good about yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Reem can strike hard but he is no where near the caliber of striker as Carwin' date=' JDS, or Cain.[/b'] Lesnar will get the take down, he always does. I doubt roided out Overeem would be able to get up as easily as the others have, if at all. If you want to know who will win a striking contest, Overeem hands down but this fight isn't going to be standing. Your right he only won the K1 Grand Prix, and beats the types of people Peter Aerts and Badr Hari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 keep laughing, JDS would wreck Reem in the stand up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hendoforpresident Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Dude' date=' this is an MMA forum. No need to argue. Do I know what K-1 is? Are you f'n kidding me? I live less than ten miles away from Dan Henderson. He is one of my favorites. and I probably have more MMA experience on a mat than you have in your entire life. No need to argue, right? Have a good day.[/quote'] if you knew what K-1 was then you wouldnt be putting Carwin and Cain up there with Overeem and yes there is need to argue, thats kinda the whole point of a discussion forum i dont care how close you live to the future mr president you;d be suprised at how much Jiu-Jitsu ive done plus this is the internet, your probly full of **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 keep laughing' date=' JDS would wreck Reem in the stand up[/quote'] Reems a better striker but his chin is questionable and the only reason i see him losing that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Im not knocking Reem. we all know how strong he is and how hard he punches. But I honestly believe JDS has the best Stand up in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Im not knocking Reem. we all know how strong he is and how hard he punches. But I honestly believe JDS has the best Stand up in the division. based on the Roy fight i say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_170 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Come on man, JDS is still getting better. Plus Roy is a warrior, he knocked him with some bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HENDO55 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Im not knocking Reem. we all know how strong he is and how hard he punches. But I honestly believe JDS has the best Stand up in the division. That's possible. His striking is so unorthodox. Back to Reem vs Lesnar though. We all know MMA math doesn't work but let's look at history in the UFC. Most wrestlers win against strikers. Minus Lesnar's last performance. He fought another wrestler who was on a completely different class in striking. This doesn't take away the fact that Lesnar has power in his punches but he doesn't know how to strike. He pretty much got lucky in the Heath Herring fight with that infamous broken orbital blow. He dominated based on his wrestling. I doubt this fight will be a striking contest. Lesnar will either get the takedown or get knocked down. I predict he'll take Overeem down and get the ground and pound finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlurSlammer Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Both are overated, how the hell can you rank these guys so high its rediculous ..... Brock - Mr. Turtle Overoid - Has lost to the top guys over the course of his career, his striking display was plain awful against Werdum. Along with the whole fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Both are overated' date=' how the hell can you rank these guys so high its rediculous ..... Brock - Mr. Turtle Overoid - Has lost to the top guys over the course of his career, his striking display was plain awful against Werdum. Along with the whole fight[/quote'] I agree the fight was a disgrace but i feel Werdum was stalling the whole time... He would of lost his whole fighting purse if this was pride days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulk Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 That's not steroids. That's from eating horse meat struck with gamma rays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Still got no takers on my sig bet....i got overeem Need crediable posters only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moony Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 That's possible. His striking is so unorthodox. Back to Reem vs Lesnar though. We all know MMA math doesn't work but let's look at history in the UFC. Most wrestlers win against strikers. Minus Lesnar's last performance. He fought another wrestler who was on a completely different class in striking. This doesn't take away the fact that Lesnar has power in his punches but he doesn't know how to strike. He pretty much got lucky in the Heath Herring fight with that infamous broken orbital blow. He dominated based on his wrestling. I doubt this fight will be a striking contest. Lesnar will either get the takedown or get knocked down. I predict he'll take Overeem down and get the ground and pound finish. I'd have to agree. Overeem may KO him on the feet, but I doubt it ... I think Brock will get the takedowns and put a hurting on him on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Hendo55 keeps saying Cain is a striker why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke101 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 We are not talking about cain, jds, roy, mir, barnett, or werdum. We are talking about Brock and Overeem. So let me ask you this...can you name a previous oponent of Brock Lesnar that Brock was not able to take down? No. you cant. Brock has double legged 100% of his opponents. Cain was the most successful because he was able to get back up. But brock took him down.....twice. Aside from cain, no one has been able to get back to their feet. and I dont believe overeem will be able to, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like this fight. It will be interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jack_Attack Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Brock will surprise people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxx77 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Still got no takers on my sig bet....i got overeem Need crediable posters only? Pm ill take brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulk Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Hendo55 keeps saying Cain is a striker why? I think it's because of all the punches he throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Pm ill take brock Sorry buddy...only 700 since 09 not enough....i need 1000+ but if not one takes my bet ill take it with you out of respect to hillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jack_Attack Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Sorry buddy...only 700 since 09 not enough....i need 1000+ but if not one takes my bet ill take it with you out of respect to hillis A sig bet I will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 A sig bet I will take. You got it sir....i got reem you got brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jack_Attack Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 You got it sir....i got reem you got brock Deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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