Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Looks like JP24 and I got another one right. LOL Lauzon by submission. 6 to 1 underdog was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 add my name to that list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I thought Lauzon would win, but I didn't think he'd be able to lock up a sub. Very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top36 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 they are all hiding:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 lol they are in hiding I won two sig bets on that fight tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I thought he would win if it stayed on the feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I still like Guillard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_cillo Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I still like Guillard he is exciting no matter what. He will remain in my sig for the rest of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSinisterUrge Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I knew Lauzon wouldn't be someone to simply overlook but I still felt bad for him coming into the fight because Guillard is something out of a bad action movie with the way he destroys people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I still like Guillard This^^^ I picked Lauzon but I am a HUGE Guillard fan Dudes hands are nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 So.....did all the guillard fans have a brain fart and forget that his weakness (a huge weakness) is his lack of a ground game and that he was going against a ground game specialist? I couldn't even see a scenario here in which Guillard would win other than hope to catch Joe with a lucky shot. You can only get lucky so many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_cillo Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 So.....did all the guillard fans have a brain fart and forget that his weakness (a huge weakness) is his lack of a ground game and that he was going against a ground game specialist? I couldn't even see a scenario here in which Guillard would win other than hope to catch Joe with a lucky shot. You can only get lucky so many times. dude you were on the Guillard train during the first 30 seconds. Melvin got hit hard and dropped then got subbed while dazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 dude you were on the Guillard train during the first 30 seconds. Melvin got hit hard and dropped then got subbed while dazed. Guillard train? hahaha you gotta be kidding me. Way overhyped. This dude will never be a champ nor will he ever get a shot at the title. He simply can't beat BJJ fighters unless he lands a combo. He's never survived a BJJ fighter who has taken him to the ground. He's got a horrible horrible ground game. It doesn't even exist. In fact, he's only beaten ONE BJJ specialist and that was Dunham. Loss to Neer Loss to Joe Daddy Loss to Rich Clementi Loss to Lauzon Loss to Nate Diaz It was obvious to any MMA fan who knows their stylistic fight match ups that this dude wasn't going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safe_Screen_Name Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I thought Lauzon would win' date=' but I didn't think he'd be able to lock up a sub. Very impressive.[/quote'] How did you see him win then? Guilard is of the most submittable fighters. Only reason it hadn't happened in a while was because he was defending takedown against guys outside the top 10. Guilard seemed to forget everything he's done well since joining Greg Jackson. I thought he gonna win until I saw how he was jumping all around the ring at the start. Reminded me of the old Guilard. He thinks he's way better then he is and forgets there are weekness's in his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_cillo Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Guillard train? hahaha you gotta be kidding me. Way overhyped. This dude will never be a champ nor will he ever get a shot at the title. He simply can't beat BJJ fighters unless he lands a combo. He's never survived a BJJ fighter who has taken him to the ground. He's got a horrible horrible ground game. It doesn't even exist. In fact' date=' he's only beaten ONE BJJ specialist and that was Dunham. Loss to Neer Loss to Joe Daddy Loss to Rich Clementi Loss to Lauzon Loss to Nate Diaz It was obvious to any MMA fan who knows their stylistic fight match ups that this dude wasn't going to win.[/quote'] You should have went to Vegas and put all your money on Lauzon if you knew so much. Did you call Joe rocking Guillard and getting him to the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Guillard train? hahaha you gotta be kidding me. Way overhyped. This dude will never be a champ nor will he ever get a shot at the title. He simply can't beat BJJ fighters unless he lands a combo. He's never survived a BJJ fighter who has taken him to the ground. He's got a horrible horrible ground game. It doesn't even exist. In fact' date=' he's only beaten ONE BJJ specialist and that was Dunham. Loss to Neer Loss to Joe Daddy Loss to Rich Clementi Loss to Lauzon Loss to Nate Diaz It was obvious to any MMA fan who knows their stylistic fight match ups that this dude wasn't going to win.[/quote'] He does have good wrestling though and he's been working on scrambling when he does get taken down but sure all opponents know that's the big hole in his game and against some the top bjj guys ( and Lauzon is ) he will never be as good as them in this area no matter how much he trains so he has to keep the fight standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate_Trolls Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Peoplw were so quick to say Melvin earned his tittle shot. Never count Joe out dudes a fighter and i dont see anyone complaing about how Melvin earned his title shot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verJJ Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm here. I wouldn't say he's overrated. Dana had him in line next so give him so credit, you guys are so easy to hate when someone loses. But yeah this loss was needed you can tell he's way too overconfident, but that happens when you go on a big winning streak in the ufc, especially in his stacked division. He came charging in with that loaded left hook a couple times despite being open to counters. I'm just glad he's back down to earth and hopefully he won't overlook anyone no longer. But hey all 4 former #1 contenders, G-Sot - Guillard took the L when the light was on them. Also I'm glad you men took the high road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm here. I wouldn't say he's overrated. Dana had him in line next so give him so credit' date=' you guys are so easy to hate when someone loses. But yeah this loss was needed you can tell he's way too overconfident, but that happens when you go on a big winning streak in the ufc, especially in his stacked division. He came charging in with that loaded left hook a couple times despite being open to counters. I'm just glad he's back down to earth and hopefully he won't overlook anyone no longer. But hey all 4 former #1 contenders, G-Sot - Guillard took the L when the light was on them. Also I'm glad you men took the high road.[/quote'] Bound to happen though. All these contenders with a huge hole in thier game can only win for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 So.....did all the guillard fans have a brain fart and forget that his weakness (a huge weakness) is his lack of a ground game and that he was going against a ground game specialist? I couldn't even see a scenario here in which Guillard would win other than hope to catch Joe with a lucky shot. You can only get lucky so many times. edit the op... i predicted the future, not just the fight.... :cool: refer to sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Unfortunately, I didn't know it was a 6 to 1 underdog until today. I really really wish I had known beforehand or I would have went to Reno and bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 edit the op... i predicted the future' date=' not just the fight.... :cool: refer to sig[/quote'] hmm yes I do remember you saying in a thread Joe would choke him out lol. I do believe you share the same fight choices and wins that JP24 and I share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_MC Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Lol at Guillard, he's way too caught up in the spotlight, reminds me of Bruce Leroy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Kwon_Do Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I thought Lauzon would win' date=' but I didn't think he'd be able to lock up a sub. Very impressive.[/quote'] Makes no sense. There's no way Joe could of won this fight any other way than by sub and most assuredly if it had gone past two rounds Melvin surely would have KOd him or at the very least decisioned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randizzle_KO Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Never count out my boy Lauzon! Called it before the fight. 2 of my favorite lightweights ever since TUF. Knew Lauzon could pull it off and was very, very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNOOB Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Looks like JP24 and I got another one right. LOL Lauzon by submission. 6 to 1 underdog was ridiculous. Good for lauzon. He pulled off the upset despite being the big underdog. I would pick Guillard in a rematch every time though. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_p4p_1 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 he never was great. he beat the can evan dunham who shouldnt be in the ufc . couldnt even beat a over the hill sherk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 he never was great. he beat the can evan dunham who shouldnt be in the ufc . couldnt even beat a over the hill sherk troll JP24 where you at?? We called it again buddy! And if I remember correctly, we called the Edgar Maynard fight too! Hahaha, I'm like 90% correct in the last 3 UFC events. Can't wait for the league to start up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiKickboxer Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Melvin Guillard is my favorite LW. That being said Joe did a great job and did what he had to do. Guillard lost, it happens. He has no excuses Joe had the better fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Still a big fan of Melvin. No shame in getting subbed by Lauzon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakenshi1243 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Guillard is still the better fighter, and would beat Joe on most occasions. All major sports should have series, obviously this can't be the case for MMA and Football, since the recovery time for the athletes is absurd. Any team/fighter can beat another team/fighter on a given night, performance varies from occasion to occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiKickboxer Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Guillard is still the better fighter' date=' and would beat Joe on most occasions. [/b'] All major sports should have series, obviously this can't be the case for MMA and Football, since the recovery time for the athletes is absurd. Any team/fighter can beat another team/fighter on a given night, performance varies from occasion to occasion. This would be true if he worked submission defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 He wouldn't win any other time. Melvin loses to BJJ experts. He's only beaten 1 and lost to 6. He has no game on the ground. What you saw last night is what happens to Guillard 85% of the time when facing a BJJ practitioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 He'd definately beat Evan Dunham again though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 He'd definately beat Evan Dunham again though I'd sig bet that one with you =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'd sig bet that one with you =) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakenshi1243 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 He wouldn't win any other time. Melvin loses to BJJ experts. He's only beaten 1 and lost to 6. He has no game on the ground. What you saw last night is what happens to Guillard 85% of the time when facing a BJJ practitioner. Well let's be fair, Guillard is not the same fighter he is now that he was before. And not to make excuses, but he was ****ing Diaz up the whole time before he made that **** mistake. I do feel if he just fought more intelligent, he could easily be a top LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Melvin has 9 losses - 8 by sub. nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 im not a Melvin fanboy...but i thought Joe was going down early in the 1st...great job Joe;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Well let's be fair' date=' Guillard is not the same fighter he is now that he was before. And not to make excuses, but he was ****ing Diaz up the whole time before he made that **** mistake. I do feel if he just fought more intelligent, he could easily be a top LW.[/quote'] Basically what you're saying is Guillard can win if the fight never goes to the ground. I agree completely. That's how he beat Dunham. But the fact is, he does get taken down after he blows his load in the first few seconds of the first round, and he looks like an amateur there. He'll never fight for the belt. Guillard is THE most 1 dimensional fighter in the UFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Basically what you're saying is Guillard can win if the fight never goes to the ground. I agree completely. That's how he beat Dunham. But the fact is' date=' he does get taken down after he blows his load in the first few seconds of the first round, and he looks like an amateur there. He'll never fight for the belt. Guillard is THE most 1 dimensional fighter in the UFC[/quote'] Pat Barry has that title:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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