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So.....did all the guillard fans have a brain fart and forget that his weakness (a huge weakness) is his lack of a ground game and that he was going against a ground game specialist?

 

I couldn't even see a scenario here in which Guillard would win other than hope to catch Joe with a lucky shot. You can only get lucky so many times.

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So.....did all the guillard fans have a brain fart and forget that his weakness (a huge weakness) is his lack of a ground game and that he was going against a ground game specialist?

 

I couldn't even see a scenario here in which Guillard would win other than hope to catch Joe with a lucky shot. You can only get lucky so many times.

 

dude you were on the Guillard train during the first 30 seconds. Melvin got hit hard and dropped then got subbed while dazed.

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dude you were on the Guillard train during the first 30 seconds. Melvin got hit hard and dropped then got subbed while dazed.

 

Guillard train? hahaha you gotta be kidding me. Way overhyped. This dude will never be a champ nor will he ever get a shot at the title. He simply can't beat BJJ fighters unless he lands a combo. He's never survived a BJJ fighter who has taken him to the ground. He's got a horrible horrible ground game. It doesn't even exist.

 

 

In fact, he's only beaten ONE BJJ specialist and that was Dunham.

 

Loss to Neer

Loss to Joe Daddy

Loss to Rich Clementi

Loss to Lauzon

Loss to Nate Diaz

 

It was obvious to any MMA fan who knows their stylistic fight match ups that this dude wasn't going to win.

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I thought Lauzon would win' date=' but I didn't think he'd be able to lock up a sub. Very impressive.[/quote']

 

How did you see him win then? Guilard is of the most submittable fighters. Only reason it hadn't happened in a while was because he was defending takedown against guys outside the top 10.

 

Guilard seemed to forget everything he's done well since joining Greg Jackson. I thought he gonna win until I saw how he was jumping all around the ring at the start. Reminded me of the old Guilard. He thinks he's way better then he is and forgets there are weekness's in his game

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Guillard train? hahaha you gotta be kidding me. Way overhyped. This dude will never be a champ nor will he ever get a shot at the title. He simply can't beat BJJ fighters unless he lands a combo. He's never survived a BJJ fighter who has taken him to the ground. He's got a horrible horrible ground game. It doesn't even exist.

 

 

In fact' date=' he's only beaten ONE BJJ specialist and that was Dunham.

 

Loss to Neer

Loss to Joe Daddy

Loss to Rich Clementi

Loss to Lauzon

Loss to Nate Diaz

 

It was obvious to any MMA fan who knows their stylistic fight match ups that this dude wasn't going to win.[/quote']

You should have went to Vegas and put all your money on Lauzon if you knew so much.

Did you call Joe rocking Guillard and getting him to the ground?

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Guillard train? hahaha you gotta be kidding me. Way overhyped. This dude will never be a champ nor will he ever get a shot at the title. He simply can't beat BJJ fighters unless he lands a combo. He's never survived a BJJ fighter who has taken him to the ground. He's got a horrible horrible ground game. It doesn't even exist.

 

 

In fact' date=' he's only beaten ONE BJJ specialist and that was Dunham.

 

Loss to Neer

Loss to Joe Daddy

Loss to Rich Clementi

Loss to Lauzon

Loss to Nate Diaz

 

It was obvious to any MMA fan who knows their stylistic fight match ups that this dude wasn't going to win.[/quote']

 

He does have good wrestling though and he's been working on scrambling when he does get taken down but sure all opponents know that's the big hole in his game and against some the top bjj guys ( and Lauzon is ) he will never be as good as them in this area no matter how much he trains so he has to keep the fight standing.

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I'm here. I wouldn't say he's overrated. Dana had him in line next so give him so credit, you guys are so easy to hate when someone loses. But yeah this loss was needed you can tell he's way too overconfident, but that happens when you go on a big winning streak in the ufc, especially in his stacked division. He came charging in with that loaded left hook a couple times despite being open to counters. I'm just glad he's back down to earth and hopefully he won't overlook anyone no longer. But hey all 4 former #1 contenders, G-Sot - Guillard took the L when the light was on them. Also I'm glad you men took the high road.

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I'm here. I wouldn't say he's overrated. Dana had him in line next so give him so credit' date=' you guys are so easy to hate when someone loses. But yeah this loss was needed you can tell he's way too overconfident, but that happens when you go on a big winning streak in the ufc, especially in his stacked division. He came charging in with that loaded left hook a couple times despite being open to counters. I'm just glad he's back down to earth and hopefully he won't overlook anyone no longer. But hey all 4 former #1 contenders, G-Sot - Guillard took the L when the light was on them. Also I'm glad you men took the high road.[/quote']

 

Bound to happen though. All these contenders with a huge hole in thier game can only win for so long.

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So.....did all the guillard fans have a brain fart and forget that his weakness (a huge weakness) is his lack of a ground game and that he was going against a ground game specialist?

 

I couldn't even see a scenario here in which Guillard would win other than hope to catch Joe with a lucky shot. You can only get lucky so many times.

 

edit the op...

 

i predicted the future, not just the fight.... :cool:

 

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I thought Lauzon would win' date=' but I didn't think he'd be able to lock up a sub. Very impressive.[/quote']

 

Makes no sense. There's no way Joe could of won this fight any other way than by sub and most assuredly if it had gone past two rounds Melvin surely would have KOd him or at the very least decisioned him.

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he never was great. he beat the can evan dunham who shouldnt be in the ufc . couldnt even beat a over the hill sherk

 

troll

 

 

JP24 where you at?? We called it again buddy! And if I remember correctly, we called the Edgar Maynard fight too! Hahaha, I'm like 90% correct in the last 3 UFC events. Can't wait for the league to start up!

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Guillard is still the better fighter, and would beat Joe on most occasions.

 

All major sports should have series, obviously this can't be the case for MMA and Football, since the recovery time for the athletes is absurd. Any team/fighter can beat another team/fighter on a given night, performance varies from occasion to occasion.

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Guillard is still the better fighter' date=' and would beat Joe on most occasions. [/b']

 

All major sports should have series, obviously this can't be the case for MMA and Football, since the recovery time for the athletes is absurd. Any team/fighter can beat another team/fighter on a given night, performance varies from occasion to occasion.

 

This would be true if he worked submission defense

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He wouldn't win any other time. Melvin loses to BJJ experts. He's only beaten 1 and lost to 6. He has no game on the ground.

 

What you saw last night is what happens to Guillard 85% of the time when facing a BJJ practitioner.

 

Well let's be fair, Guillard is not the same fighter he is now that he was before. And not to make excuses, but he was ****ing Diaz up the whole time before he made that **** mistake.

 

I do feel if he just fought more intelligent, he could easily be a top LW.

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Well let's be fair' date=' Guillard is not the same fighter he is now that he was before. And not to make excuses, but he was ****ing Diaz up the whole time before he made that **** mistake.

 

I do feel if he just fought more intelligent, he could easily be a top LW.[/quote']

 

Basically what you're saying is Guillard can win if the fight never goes to the ground.

 

I agree completely. That's how he beat Dunham. But the fact is, he does get taken down after he blows his load in the first few seconds of the first round, and he looks like an amateur there.

 

He'll never fight for the belt.

 

Guillard is THE most 1 dimensional fighter in the UFC

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Basically what you're saying is Guillard can win if the fight never goes to the ground.

 

I agree completely. That's how he beat Dunham. But the fact is' date=' he does get taken down after he blows his load in the first few seconds of the first round, and he looks like an amateur there.

 

He'll never fight for the belt.

 

Guillard is THE most 1 dimensional fighter in the UFC[/quote']

 

Pat Barry has that title:D

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