rodrodMMA92 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 BJ or Diaz? both of them are some of the toughest guys to finish in MMA in general and both are some of the better finishers as well now they are matched up against each other so who is more likely to be taken out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think the only way this is getting stopped is if Diaz gets cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infidel2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Im with carnage. Only by cuts. Maybe someone gets subbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Im with carnage. Only by cuts. Maybe someone gets subbed. only if Penn gasses, but i would still be amazed if gassed penn gets subbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 DAMN!!! Good ****ing question Hard to say, think I gotta go with carnage and say maybe by cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 DAMN!!! Good ****ing question Hard to say' date=' think I gotta go with carnage and say maybe by cut[/quote'] Hopefully its a close decision so none of them get set back in their career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wow top level question dude.....is it a 5 rounder...if so maybe bj gasses and tkoed with ref stopping it.....but tko due to cuts is very likly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 If BJ Penn completely gasses, think of the Jon Fitch fight in the third round he ate like 100 unanswered punches and wasn't able to get out of the position, you can say " those punches weren't hurting him " but he wasn't intelligently defending himself or even able to. Nick Diaz has a rougher pace than anyone in the sport you could say, he could gas BJ and TKO him. Nick has been dropped SO many times, against lesser strikers than BJ Penn, BJ Penn can drop Nick and he can finish him from there. I don't think anyone is getting submitted unless something crazy happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo_Junior_AldoFTW Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I agree with most the only way i see this fight being stopped if Diaz gets cut or Penn gasses and Diaz takes over. Tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Know_it_all Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Penn will beat Diaz.. Will he finish him.. I doubt it. But it will be a one sided *** kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettingBored Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I've never been so WAY off base with so many fans. Diaz is no where near as good as so many fans give him credit for. He also has a poor anti-professional attitude. His last impressive fight was back in '04. He beat a decent fighter in '06. He happened to be Frank Shamrocks last fight, but we all know fighters get worse towards retirement. I'm really curious where all this fame of this idiot minded kid comes from. He is the most unprofessional fighter out. He did simply "ok" in SF but people are blowing him up like he is a name... I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I've never been so WAY off base with so many fans. Diaz is no where near as good as so many fans give him credit for. He also has a poor anti-professional attitude. His last impressive fight was back in '04. He beat a decent fighter in '06. He happened to be Frank Shamrocks last fight' date=' but we all know fighters get worse towards retirement. I'm really curious where all this fame of this idiot minded kid comes from. He is the most unprofessional fighter out. He did simply "ok" in SF but people are blowing him up like he is a name... I'm confused.[/quote'] lol this is called the ultimate fighting championships, i could care less how "professional" a fighter acts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 If BJ Penn completely gasses' date=' think of the Jon Fitch fight in the third round he ate like 100 unanswered punches and wasn't able to get out of the position, you can say " those punches weren't hurting him " but he wasn't intelligently defending himself or even able to. Nick Diaz has a rougher pace than anyone in the sport you could say, he could gas BJ and TKO him. Nick has been dropped SO many times, against lesser strikers than BJ Penn, BJ Penn can drop Nick and he can finish him from there. I don't think anyone is getting submitted unless something crazy happens.[/quote'] for the 3rd round you'd mean something like Penn vs Hughes 2 where BJ was pretty fine but being in a crucifix completely gassed there was no way he'd get out? That could happen. Nick has been stopped by cuts before and he has gotten dropped but dude has an amazing chin. The only difference is that I think BJ is too good on the ground to fear going down to finish him if the opportunity happens. Also BJ has left some guys bloody messes like Stevenson/Sanchez who have much less scar tissue in the face. I don't see either guy being sub'd honestly regardless of fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Know_it_all Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I've never been so WAY off base with so many fans. Diaz is no where near as good as so many fans give him credit for. He also has a poor anti-professional attitude. His last impressive fight was back in '04. He beat a decent fighter in '06. He happened to be Frank Shamrocks last fight' date=' but we all know fighters get worse towards retirement. I'm really curious where all this fame of this idiot minded kid comes from. He is the most unprofessional fighter out. He did simply "ok" in SF but people are blowing him up like he is a name... I'm confused.[/quote'] He did better than "Okay" in SF.. Stick to lurking. It fits you better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 lol this is called the ultimate fighting championships' date=' i could care less how "professional" a fighter acts[/quote'] that's exactly how it should be. but some people feel differently to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate_Trolls Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 If BJ Penn completely gasses' date=' think of the Jon Fitch fight in the third round he ate like 100 unanswered punches and wasn't able to get out of the position, you can say " those punches weren't hurting him " but he wasn't intelligently defending himself or even able to. Nick Diaz has a rougher pace than anyone in the sport you could say, he could gas BJ and TKO him. Nick has been dropped SO many times, against lesser strikers than BJ Penn, BJ Penn can drop Nick and he can finish him from there. I don't think anyone is getting submitted unless something crazy happens.[/quote'] Are you really this dumb? The punches Fitch was throwing were nothing. Bj fought non stop to get out from under Fitch he was just being held down. He was obviously defending which is way the fight was never at any time close to being stopped. You clearly didnt watch that fight or jst wanted Bj to lose so your making excuses to make Fitch look good Not defenind means your curled up in a ball not moving when did Bj do that? Fitch woldnt even give him any space because he would lose position.becase Bj was trying to fight out of the spot. Fitch just wet blanketed him and yor acting like it was impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_C923 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 diaz is tough as hell so i don't think BJ will finish him but he will win a one sided decision and i think diaz is way overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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