shinsplint Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 What a sad day for MMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCR_SOLIDER Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 We lost Bj, Cro cop in the same night. Plus we lost Matt hughes and Couture this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 We lost Bj' date=' Cro cop in the same night. Plus we lost Matt hughes and Couture this year.[/quote'] Mirko I can understand. BUT Penn ? Im shocked. Dear oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Roy_Fan Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 penn is a crybaby who cant handle a loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajeitto Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I'm not surprised, actually I thought Rampage might retire after he got beat by Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirko4life Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Sad indeed, but it had to happen sooner or later. The first generation of true MMA fighters are starting to get old. Guys like Couture, Hughes, Penn, Mirko, Fedor. It had to happen. Still a sad night, 2 greats are going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry_More Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 penn is a crybaby who cant handle a loss Says the dude that cant handle life so he crys on the internet eveyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBLIN__ Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 called it http://forums.ufc.production.sparkart.net/showthread.php?t=96947&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 penn is a crybaby who cant handle a loss Oh can you ever not troll ? BJ didnt cry. Plus Im no fan of Penn, BUT you gota respect what he has done in MMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G__row Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 penn is a crybaby who cant handle a loss Cry baby? Sure buddy. He took that loss with complete class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunianbulldog Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 What a sad day for MMA. Indeed mate :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 So bummed. I hope he comes to his senses and returns. HE could go back down to LW to fight some of the up and comers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Indeed mate :/ I honestly didnt expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajeitto Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 So bummed. I hope he comes to his senses and returns. HE could go back down to LW to fight some of the up and comers there. I don't think Penn is the type of fighter that wants to be used as a potential "measuring stick" for up-and-comers, he wants to be world champion but he can't anymore with his terrible cardio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I don't think Penn is the type of fighter that wants to be used as a potential "measuring stick" for up-and-comers' date=' he wants to be world champion but he can't anymore with his terrible cardio.[/quote'] I think you are rite. IF he knows he cant be champ, he will not continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I want BJ to fight again. Maybe he was just bummed he lost, & when he thinks about it, he will fight again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman20 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I think you are rite. IF he knows he cant be champ' date=' he will not continue.[/quote'] as a huge penn fan i hope this is true i would never order a card that had penn as a "stepping stone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 as a huge penn fan i hope this is true i would never order a card that had penn as a "stepping stone" I still think he has got it. He went with a bad game plan IMO. He gassed also which didnt help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman20 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I still think he has got it. He went with a bad game plan IMO. He gassed also which didnt help. yeah i just wish he would get his heart back in to training i mean he wanted to fight GSP again and if he would of beat Diaz im sure he would of got it he really needs to rethink all of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajeitto Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I still think he has got it. He went with a bad game plan IMO. He gassed also which didnt help. But that has been his same gameplan for pretty much every fight since the Sanchez fight, and his cardio is never going to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 yeah i just wish he would get his heart back in to training i mean he wanted to fight GSP again and if he would of beat Diaz im sure he would of got it he really needs to rethink all of this I was suprised also. On all the countdown shows he says his cardio was better then ever, so I expected not to gas. Guess it wasnt up to par. Plus he should of gone for more TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 But that has been his same gameplan for pretty much every fight since the Sanchez fight' date=' and his cardio is never going to improve.[/quote'] He does use his jab well. BUT combo's were lacking... Badly. I dont get how his cardio is always rotten when he has so many coaches - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabri1985 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Penn just doesn't have the cardio for the top level, his skill will get him though against the mid-teir guys but when he fights the best it's just not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I was actually discussing this during the fight. Maybe not him retiring, but him being a little out of it. I think he's lost it a little. Not to where he can't contend, but to where he can't be lazy and still be successful. He's not a prodigy anymore, he's human now. And despite my dislike towards him, I've always respected him as a fighter. I will never like you BJ, but you are one hell of a ****ing fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I was actually discussing this during the fight. Maybe not him retiring' date=' but him being a little out of it. I think he's lost it a little. Not to where he can't contend, but to where he can't be lazy and still be successful. He's not a prodigy anymore, he's human now. And despite my dislike towards him, I've always respected him as a fighter. I will never like you BJ, but you are one hell of a ****ing fighter.[/quote'] IMO he could still beat 80 % of the division. & I dont get how his cardio was so shot.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 IMO he could still beat 80 % of the division. & I dont get how his cardio was so shot.:mad: Me either, you could tell in the first he was tired. It's a shame too, he was doing some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCR_SOLIDER Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I still think he has got it. He went with a bad game plan IMO. He gassed also which didnt help. This seem to be a recurring theme thought, he gasses after the first rd of every fight now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenry Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 May he surf and drink rum in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Me either' date=' you could tell in the first he was tired. It's a shame too, he was doing some damage.[/quote'] True. He won the 1st well, then when I saw him between round 1 & 2 he was already breathing heavy & with his mouth open... I thought uh oh... Surely he trained for cardio better this time. Obviously he didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 This seem to be a recurring theme thought' date=' he gasses after the first rd of every fight now[/quote'] Well I honestly thought he ould be primed & able to go the full 3 rounds & not gas so quickly. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 True. He won the 1st well' date=' then when I saw him between round 1 & 2 he was already breathing heavy & with his mouth open... I thought uh oh... Surely he trained for cardio better this time. Obviously he didnt.[/quote'] Yep, and sad to say, the Prodigy is done. Maybe after some peace and family time he'll change his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikoku Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I don't know if BJ's actually going to retire. He could use a couple extra bucks and he could still go the route of taking 'interesting fights' He's got a chin like a brick. A solid game all around. And beat a guy undefeated for years twice his size convincingly for 1 round out of 3. BJ is far from done. You just can't expect to be top dog forever. If he retires though he's had a great career with ups and downs. I would love to see BJ get in real shape for once, drop down to 145 and give Jose Aldo the ride of his mother****ing life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yep' date=' and sad to say, the Prodigy is done. Maybe after some peace and family time he'll change his mind.[/quote'] He did look full on dejected with Rogan after the fight. Quite sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I don't know if BJ's actually going to retire. He could use a couple extra bucks and he could still go the route of taking 'interesting fights' He's got a chin like a brick. A solid game all around. And beat a guy undefeated for years twice his size convincingly for 1 round out of 3. BJ is far from done. You just can't expect to be top dog forever. If he retires though he's had a great career with ups and downs. I would love to see BJ get in real shape for once' date=' drop down to 145 and give Jose Aldo the ride of his mother****ing life.[/quote'] Well said. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 What a sad day for MMA. Agreed I know you dont care for him much but he is my all time favorite fighter and I hate to see him go I am glad that Diaz will be the person to replace hime though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jack_Attack Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 That sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pessimist_Pete Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 What a sad day for MMA. He will be back. I know a bunch of long distance runners, and they all say "never again" after a marathon. But a few weeks later they are back at it. He is probably just really hurt physically and dead tired from the training camp and fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 He did look full on dejected with Rogan after the fight. Quite sad. Yeah, I know. I don't even like the guy and I felt terrible. I guess in all my hatred I never really appreciated the entertainment he provided me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Agreed I know you dont care for him much but he is my all time favorite fighter and I hate to see him go I am glad that Diaz will be the person to replace hime though Yeah Im no BJ fan, BUT I respect what he has done for the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yeah' date=' I know. I don't even like the guy and I felt terrible. I guess in all my hatred I never really appreciated the entertainment he provided me.[/quote'] Exactly how I felt. ^ Plus I cant recall the last time I saw BJ's eye that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 He went out there and fought like a warrior, stepped in against the bigger stronger fighter unafraid and took his loss like a man with no excuses. I feel privileged to have cheered for him live in the audience in the twilight of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Exactly how I felt. ^ Plus I cant recall the last time I saw BJ's eye that bad. Yeah, he can take some punishment. I hope he comes back, he shouldn't go out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RashadP4P1 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Oh can you ever not troll ? BJ didnt cry. Plus Im no fan of Penn' date=' BUT you gota respect what he has done in MMA.[/quote'] Your a casual fan munkie all you do is troll the forums with your stupid gif cartoon pics and make ridiculous poll threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairdaleCat Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Your a casual fan munkie all you do is troll the forums with your stupid gif cartoon pics and make ridiculous poll threads. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judo_phantom Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Surely one of my favorite fighters; sad to see him walk away. Thanks for the memories BJ, Thank you for all the beatings you've laid down over the years, and all the beatings you've taken - just so we could be entertained. All the respect in the world to the Prodigy. Greatest LW fighter of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Your a casual fan munkie all you do is troll the forums with your stupid gif cartoon pics and make ridiculous poll threads. Agreed. MR_BUCKET alert !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jack_Attack Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Your a casual fan munkie all you do is troll the forums with your stupid gif cartoon pics and make ridiculous poll threads. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 1st to call it. LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneKnight Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Highly doubt this is the last time we see BJ snter the Octagon. I expect a long vacation, and a return to lightweight when the landscape changes a little bit. Well to be more specific once Frankie Edgar loses the belt. I sense BJ will get a tune up/#1 contender's fight at LW, then he'll be thrown right back into another title fight against Gilbert Milendez who I presume will be champion by around that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageM1 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Highly doubt this is the last time we see BJ snter the Octagon. I expect a long vacation' date=' and a return to lightweight when the landscape changes a little bit. Well to be more specific once Frankie Edgar loses the belt. I sense BJ will get a tune up/#1 contender's fight at LW, then he'll be thrown right back into another title fight against Gilbert Milendez who I presume will be champion by around that time.[/quote'] Do you realize how ape **** things would be around here if that happened? A fanboy army of apocolyptic number would rise up and lay waste to any known logic that still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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