MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 have been finished by jones. discuss, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 have been finished by jones. discuss' date='[/quote'] Mate, this has already been discussed on here, twice! :confused: Oh yeah forgot, you were away for 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Mate' date=' this has already been discussed on here, twice! :confused: Oh yeah forgot, you were away for 2 weeks [/quote'] lol sorry ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 lol sorry ^^ Its cool, its an interesting stat :cool: Lol if Bader and Vera win :eek: Bader vs Vera no1 contender fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Its cool' date=' its an interesting stat :cool: Lol if Bader and Vera win :eek: Bader vs Vera no1 contender fight [/quote'] thats like a fight to win another humiliation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 thats like a fight to win another humiliation Well it is so messed up that Shogun potentially gets another title shot from beating Griffin (washed-up)' date=' losing to Hendo, then beating Vera! :confused: The only way I will look positively on that is if Hendo beats JBJ and then we have Hendo vs Shogun 2 for the belt http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/creepy%20smile/grand/creepy-smile-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-179.gif[/img]"] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidStateLogic Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Well it is so messed up that Shogun potentially gets another title shot from beating Griffin (washed-up)' date=' losing to Hendo, then beating Vera! :confused: The only way I will look positively on that is if Hendo beats JBJ and then we have Hendo vs Shogun 2 for the belt [/quote'] Yeah exactly, it's ******** that Shogun can get another title shot if he beats Vera who is 1-2-1, essentially 1-3 in his last 4 fights. If Shogun KOs Vera badly, he should have to fight Gustaffson for the Number 1 contenders fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeah exactly' date=' it's ******** that Shogun can get another title shot if he beats Vera who is 1-2-1, essentially 1-3 in his last 4 fights. If Shogun KOs Vera badly, he should have to fight Gustaffson for the Number 1 contenders fight.[/quote'] I wish we knew more about what is going on with Gus... :confused: Like ive said before, I get this feeling that JBJ has already discussed with Dana that he cant make 205 forever and wants to start looking at the move up to HW. Dana therefore doesnt wanna throw his new up-and-comers at 205 like Gus and Teixiera up against JBJ, saving them instead for when he moves up to HW to present as the the next gen of 205 fighters. He is therefore just gonna recycle previous contenders for the next 6 months against JBJ... I really believe JBJ will move up in 2013... If they remeasured him like they did Struve, his height will be up at least 1-2 inches on the last measurement of 6"4 and his reach woulda increased too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeah exactly' date=' it's ******** that Shogun can get another title shot if he beats Vera who is 1-2-1, essentially 1-3 in his last 4 fights. If Shogun KOs Vera badly, he should have to fight Gustaffson for the Number 1 contenders fight.[/quote'] Well it is so messed up that Shogun potentially gets another title shot from beating Griffin (washed-up)' date=' losing to Hendo, then beating Vera! :confused: The only way I will look positively on that is if Hendo beats JBJ and then we have Hendo vs Shogun 2 for the belt http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/creepy%20smile/grand/creepy-smile-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-179.gif[/img]"] word and word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidStateLogic Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I wish we knew more about what is going on with Gus... :confused: Like ive said before' date=' I get this feeling that JBJ has already discussed with Dana that he cant make 205 forever and wants to start looking at the move up to HW. Dana therefore doesnt wanna throw his new up-and-comers at 205 like Gus and Teixiera up against JBJ, saving them instead for when he moves up to HW to present as the the next gen of 205 fighters. He is therefore just gonna recycle previous contenders for the next 6 months against JBJ... I really believe JBJ will move up in 2013... If they remeasured him like they did Struve, his height will be up at least 1-2 inches on the last measurement of 6"4 and his reach woulda increased too[/quote'] Yeah, he's fallen off the face of the earth recently, was there a report of him being injured or something? And yeah that is true, JBJ will move up to HW in the next year which is really exciting, because if he is able to win the HW title it would be hard to say he's not the P4P best fighter on the planet. BUT nothing would make me happier than to see Overeem or JDS KO him. Well, any HW really, because he fails at HW he won't be able to move back down to LHW without ****ing up his body. Yeah Jones looks about 6'6" now, if he packs on muscle like to the same size as Overeem, it'll be hard for anyone to beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFoilHat Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I wish we knew more about what is going on with Gus... :confused: Like ive said before' date=' I get this feeling that JBJ has already discussed with Dana that he cant make 205 forever and wants to start looking at the move up to HW. Dana therefore doesnt wanna throw his new up-and-comers at 205 like Gus and Teixiera up against JBJ, saving them instead for when he moves up to HW to present as the the next gen of 205 fighters. He is therefore just gonna recycle previous contenders for the next 6 months against JBJ...[/quote'] Passes the tin foil hat. I really believe JBJ will move up in 2013... If they remeasured him like they did Struve' date=' his height will be up at least 1-2 inches on the last measurement of 6"4 and his reach woulda increased too[/quote']Yeah' date=' he's fallen off the face of the earth recently, was there a report of him being injured or something? And yeah that is true, JBJ will move up to HW in the next year which is really exciting, because if he is able to win the HW title it would be hard to say he's not the P4P best fighter on the planet. BUT nothing would make me happier than to see Overeem or JDS KO him. Well, any HW really, because he fails at HW he won't be able to move back down to LHW without ****ing up his body. Yeah Jones looks about 6'6" now, if he packs on muscle like to the same size as Overeem, it'll be hard for anyone to beat him.[/quote'] JBJ wont move up unless forced to by losses at LHW or a superfight money maker. For the only, and last time, because I don't school children, JBJ does not beat his opponent primarily because of his size. You closet racists love to toss that around to take from the fact that he's smart, talented, and hard-working. Weight classes. Learn them. Forrest, Chuck, Bader, Chael, MANY fighters weigh more, and are more massive than JBJ does and is. JBJ does not weight train, says his coach. It's not his ***** strength holding people down, it's technique. What he gives up in "long bone weight" he loses in muscle weight. Long fighters do not have the muscle compact fighters have. Like a glover texeira. Also, what fighters gain in size, they lose in endurance from the weight cut. If you guys can comprehend all that, then you'd know it balances out. There is no such thing as too big for the weight division. Stop being stupid. And if reach was such a factor 1. JBJ did not stop rua with his reach from standup strikes. He hurt them with G&P by faking a foot grab and landing that solid shot. 2. JBJ did not stop machida with a straight punch from across the room, he did it with a hook. 3. Elbows arent miraculously more useful because you're longer, they're more useful because you use them at the correct distance for your body type, with correct timing, and accuracy. 4. JBJ he does the choke the **** out of people with the long arms, but so does weidman, and cody mckenzie, and cole miller, and nate diaz. Are you people complaining they're too big for their weight divisions? No. Because they're not "black and successful." Even in stand up reach can be countered because fighters with long reach are slower to defend when utilizing it in straight punches, easier to counter. Machida understood that and countered him several times. Long skinny meatless legs are susceptible to leg kicks. Why the **** is Cyrille Diabate not top 5? Your excuses fail. JBJ wins because he works harder, smarter, and is more creative. I know that's a lot of logic to comprehend and juggle. But try please. Thanks. And if you refuse to accept that, then It's just like if you guys sucked a ladyboy's ****, and said "Im totally straight cause hes got breasts." He's stealing your blonde white womens, get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 ^ tl;dr + too much nut-hugging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFoilHat Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Im totally straight cause hes got breasts Sure thing, cupcake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidStateLogic Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Passes the tin foil hat. JBJ wont move up unless forced to by losses at LHW or a superfight money maker. For the only' date=' and last time, because I don't school children, JBJ does not beat his opponent primarily because of his size. You closet racists love to toss that around to take from the fact that he's smart, talented, and hard-working. Weight classes. Learn them. Forrest, Chuck, Bader, Chael, MANY fighters weigh more, and are more massive than JBJ does and is. JBJ does not weight train, says his coach. It's not his ***** strength holding people down, it's technique. What he gives up in "long bone weight" he loses in muscle weight. Long fighters do not have the muscle compact fighters have. Like a glover texeira. Also, what fighters gain in size, they lose in endurance from the weight cut. If you guys can comprehend all that, then you'd know it balances out. There is no such thing as too big for the weight division. Stop being stupid. And if reach was such a factor 1. JBJ did not stop rua with his reach from standup strikes. He hurt them with G&P by faking a foot grab and landing that solid shot. 2. JBJ did not stop machida with a straight punch from across the room, he did it with a hook. 3. Elbows arent miraculously more useful because you're longer, they're more useful because you use them at the correct distance for your body type, with correct timing, and accuracy. 4. JBJ he does the choke the **** out of people with the long arms, but so does weidman, and cody mckenzie, and cole miller, and nate diaz. Are you people complaining they're too big for their weight divisions? No. Because they're not "black and successful." Even in stand up reach can be countered because fighters with long reach are slower to defend when utilizing it in straight punches, easier to counter. Machida understood that and countered him several times. Long skinny meatless legs are susceptible to leg kicks. Why the **** is Cyrille Diabate not top 5? Your excuses fail. JBJ wins because he works [b']harder[/b], smarter, and is more creative. I know that's a lot of logic to comprehend and juggle. But try please. Thanks. And if you refuse to accept that, then It's just like if you guys sucked a ladyboy's ****, and said "Im totally straight cause hes got breasts." He's stealing your blonde white womens, get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Rogan said in the road to the octagon show that Shogun will fight for the title next if he wins. He's getting fast tracked beacuse they want JBJ to surpass Tito's record of title defenses, Jones also said that's his goal in that division. With a win over Hendo he'll tie with Chuck, then with a win over Shogun he ties with Tito... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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