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I'm a huge Machida fan.. but..


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To be honnest I don't think it's that good of an idea that he faces Jones again so quickly. Jones had him figured out the first time now I think it'll be game over.. Jones will be more unpredictable and will have improved more the next time they meet. And to me all Machida's done since his last title shot is get back on track. He's performed well and has looked good but is that enough improvement to beat Jones? I really don't think so.

 

I for one think that Jones' skills are highly overrated and that he is successful mostly due to his reach and length that other guys aren't used to deal with. I think his top game is deadly but his striking is sloppy.. but.. He's got too much tools in his arsenal for this matchup imo. If anything Jones will be even bigger and will keep getting bigger for a while and until he decides to move up to HW his size advantage will only get more and more ridiculous. And Machida really isn't at the top of the list when it comes to size in the LHW division. I actually think he could easily go to MW and keep the exact same shape... anyways..

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To be honnest I don't think it's that good of an idea that he faces Jones again so quickly. Jones had him figured out the first time now I think it'll be game over.. Jones will be more unpredictable and will have improved more the next time they meet. And to me all Machida's done since his last title shot is get back on track. He's performed well and has looked good but is that enough improvement to beat Jones? I really don't think so.

 

I for one think that Jones' skills are highly overrated and that he is successful mostly due to his reach and length that other guys aren't used to deal with. I think his top game is deadly but his striking is sloppy.. but.. He's got too much tools in his arsenal for this matchup imo. If anything Jones will be even bigger and will keep getting bigger for a while and until he decides to move up to HW his size advantage will only get more and more ridiculous. And Machida really isn't at the top of the list when it comes to size in the LHW division. I actually think he could easily go to MW and keep the exact same shape... anyways..

 

 

 

I only agree with the bold. Machida has done the best against Jones so far, and I believe he learned from the first fight what to watch out for. I believe Machida can beat Jones, Jones can also beat Machida.

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i have to disagree i dont jones has machida figured out its his rediculous reach that gives machida problem machida won the first round and go caught in the second in to a choke, i think machida this time around will do alot better, also i dont think machida will drop to middle weight while silva has the belt i think he'll wait for rashad to drop down and donkey kong silva and then get the belt back from rashad

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I disagree

 

Definitely Machida not tapping but its not the refs job to catch someone

 

The ref is supposed to take care of fighters when they lose consciousness in any way, that's why most TKOs in boxing see a ref step in and hold up a semi conscious fighter

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The ref is supposed to take care of fighters when they lose consciousness in any way' date=' that's why most TKOs in boxing see a ref step in and hold up a semi conscious fighter[/quote']

 

I agree

 

BUT

 

Was there really any time for the ref to do anything?

 

I don't think there was

 

He got choked and dropped, it's happened plenty of times before

 

What I am saying is I think the blame is on Machida for not tapping

 

And Trust me when I say I am not a Jones fan LoL

 

I just don't see what the uproar was about

 

And I'm not saying you made an uproar, I'm just saying its happened before and I think the Jones haters just had to say something about it

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I agree

 

BUT

 

Was there really any time for the ref to do anything?

 

I don't think there was

 

He got choked and dropped' date=' it's happened plenty of times before

 

What I am saying is I think the blame is on Machida for not tapping

 

And Trust me when I say I am not a Jones fan LoL

 

I just don't see what the uproar was about

 

And I'm not saying you made an uproar, I'm just saying its happened before and I think the Jones haters just had to say something about it[/quote']

 

I agree too and don't think it's a big deal, I'm both a Machida and Jones fan. But really, this is a professional fighter and we're worried about him getting hurt from a fall to the canvas?

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I agree too and don't think it's a big deal' date=' I'm both a Machida and Jones fan. But really, this is a professional fighter and we're worried about him getting hurt from a fall to the canvas?[/quote']

 

Yeah, you guys are both right. I know machida isn't gonna get hurt from it. I think I just want to hate jones more, so I like to start **** about little things he does. I should be more focused on him drinking and driving to be honest. :)

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Yeah' date=' you guys are both right. I know machida isn't gonna get hurt from it. I think I just want to hate jones more, so I like to start **** about little things he does. I should be more focused on him drinking and driving to be honest. :)[/quote']

 

It always seems odd to me that people give Jones so much **** for the drunk driving and completely ignore Rampage killing an unborn baby during a drunken joyride?

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I agree too and don't think it's a big deal' date=' I'm both a Machida and Jones fan. But really, this is a professional fighter and we're worried about him getting hurt from a fall to the canvas?[/quote']

 

No doubt

 

They put it all on the line and sometimes things like that happen

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If Hendo by some miracle is able to beat Jones the division becomes interesting again, Hendo/Machida and Hendo/Rua II would be great fights.

 

Even if Jones does win a rematch Machida is not a bad thing Lyoto staggered Jones in the 1st round of there previous meeting and won the opening round something no other opponent has managed to do to Jones.

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It always seems odd to me that people give Jones so much **** for the drunk driving and completely ignore Rampage killing an unborn baby during a drunken joyride?

 

Did that really happen? I read when the lady was suing him, but then never heard anything else about it. They made it seem like she was just looking for money or something at the time, so I never really dug any deeper on it. That's just ****ing insane if that rolled out like that.

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If Hendo by some miracle is able to beat Jones the division becomes interesting again' date=' Hendo/Machida and Hendo/Rua II would be great fights.

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Maybe, I feel like Machida is tailor made to pick Hendo apart, and I doubt Shogun can get another title shot if he has to beat Jones or Rashad to earn it

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It always seems odd to me that people give Jones so much **** for the drunk driving and completely ignore Rampage killing an unborn baby during a drunken joyride?

 

LoL

 

I talk **** about that because I like getting people going

 

But he drank and drove, theres 1,000's of people everyday that do it, and while I don't agree with it and I don't think it should be blown off I still don't see any reason to single out this specific person too much

 

Once his next fight happens and he wins or loses, it will be another fart in the wind and forgotten about for the most part in my opinion

 

He got his punishment from the courts, end of story

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He knew Machida was toast' date=' he could have just simply let up a bit and eased him down. I think anyone with decent sportsmanship would have. Well, anyone that claims to be as high and mighty as Jon portrays himself.[/quote']

 

^this, Jones is a fake pos of a person...Machida will beat him this time, Jones won't get Lucky, assuming Jones gets past hendo. I got 50 bucks at the casino saying he won't

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I would hope to god a champion can figure the obvious counter striker.What i like about Jones is his smarts,he uses all the techniques.

I would like to see Jones use a lot more top of the knee kicks to get Machida to break out of his standing around/waiting game shell.Jones has the reach to force a fight out of Machida.I was a little bummed out to se how long it took Jones to figure it out last time but at least he did realize how simple Machida is for him.

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I think Machida didn't tap merely because he was stunned.

 

Cuz to those who say Machida just got caught in a choke you need to watch the fight again. Prior to getting choked Machida actually got taken down, elbowed, then he was really looking like crap. He actually got knocked down by Jones and only then got caught in a choke. He was losing way before getting caught.

 

And I was rooting for Machida that night. But you guys saying he did good in the first round and claiming its an indicator of how a 2nd fight could go in his favor is laughable. What did he do in that first round. Landed what.. 2 or 3 good punches? a couple good kicks? Yes Jones seemed to hesitate and got surprised by these shots but he wasn't shaken or wobbled. He just retreated.

 

I'm not even a Jones fan but I can still see that he destroyed Machida. Lyoto did good in the 1st its true but... he did about as good as many guys who have fought Anderson Silva have done in the 1st round sometimes or during the 1st part of the first round just before getting KTFO.

 

Ok let's say... Machida did as good against Jones as Vitor did against Silva before getting immortalized in a highlight reels KO.

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