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Brady' date=' I have a question for you, do you as a citizen feel you have the right to film a police officer doing his job ? Why?[/quote']

 

i will answer just to be nosey....=D

 

 

 

yes

 

becouse some officers take advantage of there position of power, and we need some protection from that....

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Where I am going to take it is you have a right to film an officer doing his job because most of his job is him doing that job in public. We have to take a look at legally' date=' what levels of privacy one really has when they are in public...[/quote']

 

The words privacy and secrecy belong no where near anyone who holds a public office or serves the people of a given community. Vice and Intel operations are a different animal.

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That's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about every single person in your country, and what level of rights do they have when they are in a public space? In today's digital world, any single person around you could listen to you talking, watch you, even record you. You have to expect that to some degree your privacy is being invaded. You can't say it's ok for this person to be recorded, but not this person while they are in public. Or maybe you can? I just don't see any denial of your rights being legally challenged as long as you are in a public space.

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That's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about every single person in your country' date=' and what level of rights do they have when they are in a public space? In today's digital world, any single person around you could listen to you talking, watch you, even record you. You have to expect that to some degree your privacy is being invaded. You can't say it's ok for this person to be recorded, but not this person while they are in public. Or maybe you can? I just don't see any denial of your rights being legally challenged as long as you are in a public space.[/quote']

 

Well, the angle that's being approached here is hindering police investigation or compromising evidence in either direction. Police in most cases are protected by some sort of "civil immunity" so personally, I don't see why its an issue in the first place.

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That's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about every single person in your country' date=' and what level of rights do they have when they are in a public space? In today's digital world, any single person around you could listen to you talking, watch you, even record you. You have to expect that to some degree your privacy is being invaded. You can't say it's ok for this person to be recorded, but not this person while they are in public. Or maybe you can? I just don't see any denial of your rights being legally challenged as long as you are in a public space.[/quote']

 

this you people don't own the ****ing side walk or the streets this is a great idea and brady as i said before your a ****ing retarded troll who should just go away 90% of your threads are pointless and you do a poor job posting them.

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Serious reply. Who the **** cares if a cctv camera catches you doing something completely legal? Anyone monitoring said footage wont even notice it. The only time i'd be pissed with the situation is if you ask for access to any footage and data to prove your innocence in a matter and that access is denied. otherwise

 

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Slippery slope to a "1984" type society. just sayin' :D

 

This

 

We are already half way down the slope, and only the few are noticing it.

 

The hilarious thing is, excessive CCTV in towns I know do nothing to deter wrong doing, and little to catch the wrong doers. Unless you watch crimewatch where pictures are so grainy prosecutors can't get a positive ID to stand up in court, the images do little to help identify anyone.

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Ah' date=' missed the active link. CCTV... well talk to the Brits about it, they have the most CCTV per capita I believe...[/quote']

 

Yes we do and its made no difference to the normal law abiding citizen's lives and helped police catch criminals. It works

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Well' date=' the angle that's being approached here is hindering police investigation or compromising evidence in either direction. Police in most cases are protected by some sort of "civil immunity" so personally, I don't see why its an issue in the first place.[/quote']

 

That is not the angle at all that I am implying. What I am saying in regards to Police is that you (except in 1 State I believe) have the right to film the Police while they are doing their job so long as you do not obstruct their investigation in any way. If you get pulled over by the Police, you have the right to record the interaction between yourself and that officer. The reason why is because you and the Police Officer are in a public area. You can record a public protest, you can record other people... as I mentioned, while you are in a public place, you must understand that there really is no privacy in what you do or say in that public space, as it has the potential to be witnessed by anyone around you.

 

Slippery slope to a "1984" type society. just sayin' :D

I agree, it can be, and in no way do I submit to things like warrantless tracking of GPS, or wireless devices or other invasions like that. However, when we sit back and think how much of our life is being recorded already? When we go to the bank, we are on camera, the bank machine, on camera, 7-11, on camera, the airport, some traffic intersections, shopping malls, all stores, casinos, some taxi cabs and buses. We can make a pretty long list, and do we complain about these cameras? Is it simply because they are located on private property? or is it something else?

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That is not the angle at all that I am implying. What I am saying in regards to Police is that you (except in 1 State I believe) have the right to film the Police while they are doing their job so long as you do not obstruct their investigation in any way. If you get pulled over by the Police' date=' you have the right to record the interaction between yourself and that officer. The reason why is because you and the Police Officer are in a public area. You can record a public protest, you can record other people... as I mentioned, while you are in a public place, you must understand that there really is no privacy in what you do or say in that public space, as it has the potential to be witnessed by anyone around you.

 

 

I agree, it can be, and in no way do I submit to things like warrantless tracking of GPS, or wireless devices or other invasions like that. However, when we sit back and think how much of our life is being recorded already? When we go to the bank, we are on camera, the bank machine, on camera, 7-11, on camera, the airport, some traffic intersections, shopping malls, all stores, casinos, some taxi cabs and buses. We can make a pretty long list, and do we complain about these cameras? Is it simply because they are located on private property? or is it something else?[/quote']

 

 

Time to go off the grid!

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That is not the angle at all that I am implying. What I am saying in regards to Police is that you (except in 1 State I believe) have the right to film the Police while they are doing their job so long as you do not obstruct their investigation in any way. If you get pulled over by the Police' date=' you have the right to record the interaction between yourself and that officer. The reason why is because you and the Police Officer are in a public area. You can record a public protest, you can record other people... as I mentioned, while you are in a public place, you must understand that there really is no privacy in what you do or say in that public space, as it has the potential to be witnessed by anyone around you.

 

 

I agree, it can be, and in no way do I submit to things like warrantless tracking of GPS, or wireless devices or other invasions like that. However, when we sit back and think how much of our life is being recorded already? When we go to the bank, we are on camera, the bank machine, on camera, 7-11, on camera, the airport, some traffic intersections, shopping malls, all stores, casinos, some taxi cabs and buses. We can make a pretty long list, and do we complain about these cameras? Is it simply because they are located on private property? or is it something else?[/quote']

 

We are in agreement Brew. It's been an issue here in the states as of late. Even though people are in public places they're still being detained. Not all of the time but most.

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We are in agreement Brew. It's been an issue here in the states as of late. Even though people are in public places they're still being detained. Not all of the time but most.

 

It would be interesting to know if those people being detained have been suspected of anything or are their rights being violated? from what I understand if you are not doing anything, police do not have a right to ask you for ID, or to detain you in any way.

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It would be interesting to know if those people being detained have been suspected of anything or are their rights being violated? from what I understand if you are not doing anything' date=' police do not have a right to ask you for ID, or to detain you in any way.[/quote']

 

Most of the arrests have come at the expense of by-standers filming arrests. I also believe that an officer can request ID anytime they want. With the passing of the NDAA some ridiculous stipulations have been set forth in which you could be considered a "domestic terrorist" and be detained indefinitely without trial. One of these stipulations being having more than a months worth of food in your house...

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to the people talking about freedom and our rights and all that, maybe when we as a whole start acting better then only then can we truly be free... I was walking around yesterday and saw a group of 3 kids beating up someone and trying to rob him and people just walked right by, not one person jumped in to help or even called the cops an there was a group of people just watching... cause there was 3 of them i called 911 and they took off running and the poor guy was bleeding quite a bit. I would take my safety at being recorded over walking down the road and something like that happening cause at least then they can see the peoples faces.

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Most of the arrests have come at the expense of by-standers filming arrests. I also believe that an officer can request ID anytime they want. With the passing of the NDAA some ridiculous stipulations have been set forth in which you could be considered a "domestic terrorist" and be detained indefinitely without trial. One of these stipulations being having more than a months worth of food in your house...

 

If this is true, this is a complete erosion of your countries civil rights

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lol tbh i dont give a crap about being watched in public areas. i wrote a 10 page paper on how i didnt give a crap and i got an A- so it was somewhat good.

 

honestly what are ppl afraid of unless they are scared of being caught? if ur sexting ur girlfriend or something why do u care if a third party is reading it... u dont know them, they dont know u. the positives is it can intercept a number of things like terror attacks or even drug deals.

 

as for the cctv cameras...they are outside... they are not looking into ur house. when u are outside u are probably being watched by someone anyway it doesnt make a difference.

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lol tbh i dont give a crap about being watched in public areas. i wrote a 10 page paper on how i didnt give a crap and i got an A- so it was somewhat good.

 

honestly what are ppl afraid of unless they are scared of being caught? if ur sexting ur girlfriend or something why do u care if a third party is reading it... u dont know them' date=' they dont know u. the positives is it can intercept a number of things like terror attacks or even drug deals.

 

as for the cctv cameras...they are outside... they are not looking into ur house. when u are outside u are probably being watched by someone anyway it doesnt make a difference.[/quote']

 

Do you think that in the future there will be the possibility of editing these videos to frame people of crimes?

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Exhibit A...

 

http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20120810-domestic-terrorism-by-members-of-extremist-groups-a-serious-threat-fbi

 

The FBI and other government law-enforcement agencies have been convinced for a while that terrorism from extremist domestic organizations is just as dangerous as terrorism from foreign organizations, but efforts by authorities to detect and pre-empt violent extremists have faced serious legal and political hurdles, including free speech guarantees and pushback from political lobbies suspicious of the government’s motives
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lol tbh i dont give a crap about being watched in public areas. i wrote a 10 page paper on how i didnt give a crap and i got an A- so it was somewhat good.

 

honestly what are ppl afraid of unless they are scared of being caught? if ur sexting ur girlfriend or something why do u care if a third party is reading it... u dont know them' date=' they dont know u. the positives is it can intercept a number of things like terror attacks or even drug deals.

 

as for the cctv cameras...they are outside... they are not looking into ur house. when u are outside u are probably being watched by someone anyway it doesnt make a difference.[/quote']

 

This...problem is to many ppl are flip floppers...I don't mind being filmed in public....but i should have the right to it

 

I am open bout everything but my personal info that could be used against me or unlawfully that's all

 

Job...education...friends...actions...ideals...I share it all unless it could hurt someone else

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