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BruteDion

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Resent reports show that Israel wants to take a military stance and march on Iran and they want our support

 

So I ask would u want us to go to war with Iran when we or Iran didn't start it out right?

 

I know Israel is our best ally in the middle east...and Iran ain't really playing nice with many nations right now besides China and Russia but I feel Israel is pushing the issue right now and they "expect" the USA to back them

 

Also add that China and Russia both have said they would stand behind Iran if they get bullied

 

So do we back Israel in thier offensive against Iran?

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i say yes' date=' i dnt like getting into **** with other countries BUT there our allies and its our duty....along with the fact, if we dnt help the jews God is gonna screw us up...[/quote']

 

Even if Israel maybe wrong with starting the war?...Iran has done some ****ed up **** but so has Israel

 

Plus add that it would be a war with China and Russia...I say no for now

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Even if Israel maybe wrong with starting the war?...Iran has done some ****ed up **** but so has Israel

 

Plus add that it would be a war with China and Russia...I say no for now

 

Um, why would China an Russia care? They wouldn't like the war, but they don't back Iran in any way.

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Um' date=' why would China an Russia care? They wouldn't like the war, but they don't back Iran in any way.[/quote']

 

Iran has good relations with them...Iran is a huge provider in oil for them and if Iran breaks as a nation (what losing a war could do to them) it would hurt China and Russia (Russia would be huge hurt)

 

When the UN wanted to place the sanctions on Iran both those nations were up on arms

 

As I said...both nations have said...if Iran is attacked they will back Iran

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"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world"

 

"Peace' date=' commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none."

 

 

The above are wise words I think we should follow right now.[/quote']

 

I would hope they don't as it means the British will follow them in' date=' could well be the start of the third world war if it does kick off.[/quote']

 

This and this

 

America/UK/Israel vs. Iran/Russis/China....I don't wanna see that...a lot of Americans would die in a war they never started

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Iran has good relations with them...Iran is a huge provider in oil for them and if Iran breaks as a nation (what losing a war could do to them) it would hurt China and Russia (Russia would be huge hurt)

 

When the UN wanted to place the sanctions on Iran both those nations were up on arms

 

As I said...both nations have said...if Iran is attacked they will back Iran

 

Do you have an article proving they said that?

 

Even so, I would still want to back Isreal. Iran threatened them and they deserve what they get.

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Iran has good relations with them...Iran is a huge provider in oil for them and if Iran breaks as a nation (what losing a war could do to them) it would hurt China and Russia (Russia would be huge hurt)

 

When the UN wanted to place the sanctions on Iran both those nations were up on arms

 

As I said...both nations have said...if Iran is attacked they will back Iran

 

I seem to remember mentioning this scenario a month or 2 ago and got called a tinfoil hat wearer. Wouldn't be the first time I guess.

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Do you have an article proving they said that?

 

Even so' date=' I would still want to back Isreal. Iran threatened them and they deserve what they get.[/quote']

 

I post form a phone so forgive me if my links don't work...you can find many links from any search engine bout China and Russia backing Iran

 

This vid I think is a bit extreme cuz no one wants a nuke war...but China said it would fight

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEC_vzQMRs9w&v=EC_vzQMRs9w&gl=US

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This and this

 

America/UK/Israel vs. Iran/Russis/China....I don't wanna see that...a lot of Americans would die in a war they never started

 

WW1 was basically a conflict between Austria and Serbia originally. War has changed though, I seriously doubt we will ever see the U.S fight China or Russia. And if it does happen.. Well.. Yeah.

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I post form a phone so forgive me if my links don't work...you can find many links from any search engine bout China and Russia backing Iran

 

This vid I think is a bit extreme cuz no one wants a nuke war...but China said it would fight

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEC_vzQMRs9w&v=EC_vzQMRs9w&gl=US

 

Nope, it worked :)

 

So it would be USA/Isreal/UK/France/Canada vs Iran/China/Russia? Sounds crazy. China was petrified when France wanted to temporarily stop Iran from selling oil. I still think we should back Isreal.

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When Iraq was in full flow, Clinton was asked about Iran (he was out of office then) and he replied the US didn't have enough troops. You lot are gonna argue this, but you don't have infinite resources and need to pick your battles.

 

The govt would make pains to diplomatically massage and pamper Israel not to make an overly aggresive stance towards Iran, purely for not only China and Russia, but the rest of the middle east. Think your army is big enough to deal with that? Well its not. Not even a UN force could match it, plus N Korea would be tight up China's **** into battle.

 

For these reasons, it won't happen. This is worse case scenario, but that is what is taken into account when deciding military action. The cons massively out weigh the pros.

 

If Russia and China want no part of it, and make that clear, then the US can afford to take a rhetorically much more aggresive stance, but if not it will be diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy.

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When Iraq was in full flow' date=' Clinton was asked about Iran (he was out of office then) and he replied the US didn't have enough troops. You lot are gonna argue this, but you don't have infinite resources and need to pick your battles.

 

The govt would make pains to diplomatically massage and pamper Israel not to make an overly aggresive stance towards Iran, purely for not only China and Russia, but the rest of the middle east. Think your army is big enough to deal with that? Well its not. Not even a UN force could match it, plus N Korea would be tight up China's **** into battle.

 

For these reasons, it won't happen. This is worse case scenario, but that is what is taken into account when deciding military action. The cons massively out weigh the pros.

 

If Russia and China want no part of it, and make that clear, then the US can afford to take a rhetorically much more aggresive stance, but if not it will be diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy.[/quote']

 

Good points...we been picking on lesser developed nations for a long time now...steping up to China and Russia is like fighting GSP after u spent the last 5 years in bellator lol

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The U.S would have to back Israel but we wouldn't have troops in Iran. We would just make sure that Israel was well supplied and that Iran wouldn't push into Israel. We would also probably provide air support for missions.

 

An interesting event that recently took place. The russians just had a sub in the gulf of mexico without the USA's knowledge.

 

http://freebeacon.com/silent-running/

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The U.S would have to back Israel but we wouldn't have troops in Iran. We would just make sure that Israel was well supplied and that Iran wouldn't push into Israel.

 

An interesting event that recently took place. The russians just had a sub in the gulf of mexico without the USA's knowledge.

 

http://freebeacon.com/silent-running/

 

Cold war all over again bc you know russia will back Iran in this matter

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lol i would be glad if israel atacked iran they would get nuked so hard

 

btw it would be israel america vs china' date=' russia, iran heck maybe even north korea i know who's side i would be on and its not the jewish one[/quote']

 

So you would be glad at innocent men, women and children dieing?

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This would be one war that i would whole-heartedly agree with.

 

If Iran achieve full nuclear capability, i think they would look to use it at the slightest provocation which would result in WW3 and nuclear armegeddon.

 

Offer Russia and China first dibs on the oil, which is really thier only concern, and remove that mutha****** backward country from the world map before its to late

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lol i would be glad if israel atacked iran they would get nuked so hard

 

btw it would be israel america vs china' date=' russia, iran heck maybe even north korea i know who's side i would be on and its not the jewish one[/quote']

 

If it happened the US would have more nations with them than just Israel.

 

US, France, Italy, UK, Canada, Australia, and Japan just to name a few. There were about 40 countries with troops involved in the Iraq War. Most of those same countries would aid the US again.

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Cold war all over again bc you know russia will back Iran in this matter

 

They would for sure and so would China. They have both openly criticized the US about the new sanctions because it affects them as well. I don't think that Russia would openly fight the US though,

 

It would be interesting if it did break out. China/Russia would definitely have the numbers on the ground but the US side would have the air and sea advantage.

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I don't like getting into politics but Israel have been Americas pawns for a long time they just seem to try to bully other countries that America want taking over and threaten them with US backing.. another oil war keep the British the **** out is how I feel, if China and Russia back them (which they have as much right as the US do to back Israel) then I wouldn't blame them.

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How is americas relations with India?

 

And dont forget those crazy north koreans

 

India likes the US and they are peaceful so they would probably stay neutral. Plus a lot of India's income comes from exporting to the U.S. so they wouldn't do anything to break those ties.

 

Obviously N. Korea hates the US so I could see them helping China. They have a ton of ground troops which would help but their Air Force and Navy technology is mostly outdated and wouldn't be much assistance.

 

EDIT: If anything like this did happen millions of people would die because Russia, China, and N Korea all rely mostly on their ground units. It would be tough for any army to hold them back.

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India likes the US and they are peaceful so they would probably stay neutral. Plus a lot of India's income comes from exporting to the U.S. so they wouldn't do anything to break those ties.

 

Obviously N. Korea hates the US so I could see them helping China. They have a ton of ground troops which would help but their Air Force and Navy technology is mostly outdated and wouldn't be much assistance.

 

Technology can be provided by china. Really the north koreans would just be cannon fodder for americas assault

 

But China could really just cripple the US by calling in the debt that is owed to them.

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