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so roughly 20%? god bless the nhs

 

As an American living in the UK, I've encountered the NHS over the last year. Yes, it's free - but there is a saying, you get what you pay for. And it's so true. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of professionalism and standard of care, not to mention the frustration of dealing with the NHS scheduling. I spent 4 months trying to get my GP to make an appointment with a dermatologist to get a skin cancer screening (it's been a problem throughout my life), during which I was asked, by medical professionals what "pre-melanoma was." Now I'm not doctor myself, and I didn't go to med school, but I might be able to use my powers of deduction to conclude that pre, means before...and melanoma is a type of skin cancer.

 

I went back to the States over the summer, had one consultation with my regular dermatologist - turns out, yeah I had two at risk moles, made an appointment, had them removed, and came back for a biopsy to make sure it had been thoroughly removed. All in less than 2 weeks, and the total procedure was a couple hundred bucks. Might have saved my life if they had turned into skin cancer.

 

Had I been left in the NHS, I would have heard another condescending lecture from a doctor about how "only Americans deal with preventative medicine..." and sat around and waited until they possibly became cancerous. And then, I could have enjoyed waiting for a few more months before I got any type of actual care.

 

I don't like all aspects of the American medical field, and yes it can be pricy...but if something is wrong with me, and I need some help now (and not in a few months), paying to get treatment beats getting a sympathetic "aww shucks" every time.

 

And by the way, it's not 56 million WITH insurance, it's 50.7 American without insurance. ( source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-17-uninsured17_ST_N.htm ) And since America's population is 311 million, that's about 16-17% without insurance. Perfect system? Absolutely not, but hardly the image that has been previously suggested in this thread.

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As an American living in the UK' date=' I've encountered the NHS over the last year. Yes, it's free - but there is a saying, you get what you pay for. And it's so true. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of professionalism and standard of care, not to mention the frustration of dealing with the NHS scheduling. I spent 4 months trying to get my GP to make an appointment with a dermatologist to get a skin cancer screening (it's been a problem throughout my life), during which I was asked, by medical professions what "pre-melanoma was." Now I'm not doctor myself, and I didn't go to med school, but I might be able to use my powers of deduction to conclude that pre, means before...and melanoma is a type of skin cancer.

 

I went back to the States over the summer, had one consultation with my regular dermatologist - turns out, yeah I had two at risk moles, made an appointment, had them removed, and came back for a biopsy to make sure they had been removed. All in less than 2 weeks, and the total procedure was a couple hundred bucks. Might have saved my life is they had turned into skin cancer.

 

Had I been left in the NHS, I would have heard another condescending lecture from a doctor about how "only Americans deal with preventative medicine..." and sat around and waited until they possibly became cancerous. And then, I could have enjoyed waiting for a few more months before I got any type of actual care.

 

I don't like all aspects of the American medical field, and yes it can be pricy...but if something is wrong with me, and I need some help now (and not in a few months), paying to get treatment beats getting a sympathetic "aww shucks" every time.

 

And by the way, it's not 56 million WITH insurance, it's 50.7 American without insurance. ( source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-17-uninsured17_ST_N.htm ) And since America's population is 311 million, that's about 16-17% without insurance. Perfect system? Absolutely not, but hardly the image that has been previously suggested in this thread.[/quote']

 

This will be the best post you see in this thread. Might as well close it.

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As an American living in the UK' date=' I've encountered the NHS over the last year. Yes, it's free - but there is a saying, you get what you pay for. And it's so true. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of professionalism and standard of care, not to mention the frustration of dealing with the NHS scheduling. I spent 4 months trying to get my GP to make an appointment with a dermatologist to get a skin cancer screening (it's been a problem throughout my life), during which I was asked, by medical professionals what "pre-melanoma was." Now I'm not doctor myself, and I didn't go to med school, but I might be able to use my powers of deduction to conclude that pre, means before...and melanoma is a type of skin cancer.

 

I went back to the States over the summer, had one consultation with my regular dermatologist - turns out, yeah I had two at risk moles, made an appointment, had them removed, and came back for a biopsy to make sure it had been thoroughly removed. All in less than 2 weeks, and the total procedure was a couple hundred bucks. Might have saved my life if they had turned into skin cancer.

 

Had I been left in the NHS, I would have heard another condescending lecture from a doctor about how "only Americans deal with preventative medicine..." and sat around and waited until they possibly became cancerous. And then, I could have enjoyed waiting for a few more months before I got any type of actual care.

 

I don't like all aspects of the American medical field, and yes it can be pricy...but if something is wrong with me, and I need some help now (and not in a few months), paying to get treatment beats getting a sympathetic "aww shucks" every time.

 

And by the way, it's not 56 million WITH insurance, it's 50.7 American without insurance. ( source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-17-uninsured17_ST_N.htm ) And since America's population is 311 million, that's about 16-17% without insurance. Perfect system? Absolutely not, but hardly the image that has been previously suggested in this thread.[/quote']

 

Funny, a lot of people would never have expected to get PWNED by this guy.

 

Guess what just happened?? :D

 

P4P post!

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As an American living in the UK' date=' I've encountered the NHS over the last year. Yes, it's free - but there is a saying, you get what you pay for. And it's so true. I was absolutely shocked at the lack of professionalism and standard of care, not to mention the frustration of dealing with the NHS scheduling. I spent 4 months trying to get my GP to make an appointment with a dermatologist to get a skin cancer screening (it's been a problem throughout my life), during which I was asked, by medical professionals what "pre-melanoma was." Now I'm not doctor myself, and I didn't go to med school, but I might be able to use my powers of deduction to conclude that pre, means before...and melanoma is a type of skin cancer.

 

I went back to the States over the summer, had one consultation with my regular dermatologist - turns out, yeah I had two at risk moles, made an appointment, had them removed, and came back for a biopsy to make sure it had been thoroughly removed. All in less than 2 weeks, and the total procedure was a couple hundred bucks. Might have saved my life if they had turned into skin cancer.

 

Had I been left in the NHS, I would have heard another condescending lecture from a doctor about how "only Americans deal with preventative medicine..." and sat around and waited until they possibly became cancerous. And then, I could have enjoyed waiting for a few more months before I got any type of actual care.

 

I don't like all aspects of the American medical field, and yes it can be pricy...but if something is wrong with me, and I need some help now (and not in a few months), paying to get treatment beats getting a sympathetic "aww shucks" every time.

 

And by the way, it's not 56 million WITH insurance, it's 50.7 American without insurance. ( source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-17-uninsured17_ST_N.htm ) And since America's population is 311 million, that's about 16-17% without insurance. Perfect system? Absolutely not, but hardly the image that has been previously suggested in this thread.[/quote']

 

Sorry to hear that. I had a similar thing with a mole on my head that was discoloured, I got a GP appointment the next day, and hospital two days after that, as a full time student, didn't pay a penny up front. Where abouts were you when you tried to get your appointment?

 

Private is available, but I think the system that we have in the UK is a good thing, considering the current economy. I definitely see your side of things though.

 

Seems I was given a dud stat by Bubba :(

 

I've just got a quote for private insurance and it came to ?1090 a year, I went for the basic things that I would expect, and they wouldn't be willing to cover me in the event that I started getting paid to play football, so I am very glad to have the nhs to fall back on

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Sorry to hear that. I had a similar thing with a mole on my head that was discoloured' date=' I got a GP appointment the next day, and hospital two days after that, as a full time student, didn't pay a penny up front. Where abouts were you when you tried to get your appointment?

 

Private is available, but I think the system that we have in the UK is a good thing, considering the current economy. I definitely see your side of things though.

 

Seems I was given a dud stat by Bubba :(

 

I've just got a quote for private insurance and it came to ?1090 a year, I went for the basic things that I would expect, and they wouldn't be willing to cover me in the event that I started getting paid to play football, so I am very glad to have the nhs to fall back on[/quote']

 

I live in the Richmond area. And hey, I know every country has their strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the medical field. The simple truth is, it's a fast changing, very expensive, and ripe with flaws no matter how you present it. Medicine isn't straight forward and no matter who promises you something, it's going to come with a degree of difficulty. Which, I say, let's discuss that, let's explore the difficulties. Can't find solutions until we discover and understand the problems.

 

I just didn't want false information floating about.

 

But yes' date=' I agree that it isn't perfect, but what is?[/quote']

 

Too true.

 

(By the way, my original post wasn't intended with the harsh tone that was delivered. After rereading it, I realize it may have come off as snarky or a bit hostile. Fortunately, I think jd knows me well enough to not take it personally.)

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Haha, not a problem, tone doesn't transfer well over the internet.

 

What I will say is though, if I was previously on private and had to downgrade to nhs, I would more than likely notice the difference and have a different stance on this

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