King_Can Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Up to this point. Hendo could still win the UFC title and Shogun could beat Gustaffson and also win the title back. Pretty solid arguement, although the bias shogun fans outweigh the hendo fans :cool: both sides have a pretty solid case discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMMAFansSuck Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Up to this point. Hendo could still win the UFC title and Shogun could beat Gustaffson and also win the title back. Pretty solid arguement' date=' although the bias shogun fans outweigh the hendo fans :cool: both sides have a pretty solid case discuss. [/quote'] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have Gustaffson winning as well but if Shogun shows up ready he could pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hendo for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banham Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Dan has the better resume IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I did not expect it to be 4 - 0 for hendo already :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openwindow Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hendo: 29-8, Like 3 world champion belts, Beat Shogun recently Shogun: 21-6, 1 world champion belt, Lost to Hendo in beforementioned bout. To summarize into a sentence: Hendo started his career earlier and has a better record with better accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 8 - 0 for hendo :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 i would say almost a tie... if hendo beats jones for sure hendo but a UFC title means more than a strikeforce title.... so you could make the debate... there both legends... WAR SHOGOD/HENDO!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 right now Shogun, because he won a UFC belt But if Hendo wins then it is definately him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelebrun Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I went with Shogun, Hendo is yet to hold a belt in the UFC yet, sure Shogun didn't defend his, but he won it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hendo starts out 8-0 and SHOGUN is making a comeback!! ZOMG GREATEST POLL EVER!! Sorry just thought the poll deserved the same overreaction the fight did. you are just mad that Jon Jones can never put on great fights like Shogun and Hendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banham Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Shogun never won a PRIDE title, let alone 2 Diff ones at the same damn time. Shogun won the MW GP. That's like saying DC just won the SF HW title. He won a glorified tournament.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Shogun never won a PRIDE title' date=' let alone 2 Diff ones at the same damn time. Shogun won the MW GP. That's like saying DC just won the SF HW title. He won a glorified tournament..[/quote'] Did you forget who Shogun fought in the 1st round of the tourny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Shogun never won a PRIDE title' date=' let alone 2 Diff ones at the same damn time. Shogun won the MW GP. That's like saying DC just won the SF HW title. He won a glorified tournament..[/quote'] yea no.... Pride GP were the BIG **** back then dude, the HW GP was NOTHING compared to that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banham Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 yea no.... Pride GP were the BIG **** back then dude' date=' the HW GP was NOTHING compared to that....[/quote'] Yeah I know. Like i said, glorified tournament. Wandy had the belt for a while and him and Shogun wouldn't fight. Then Dan came along and slept Wanderlei in brutal fashion. UFC Title > PRIDE Title. Lmao, 12'er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noowtron Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hendo without a doubt, he had two belts at the same time in Pride, KO'd Wanderlei when he was a beast, and hes the only one to KO fedor. Not to mention if he wins against Jones he might bethe greatest MMA fighter ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banham Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I see that you don't have an actual response. How do you want me to respond to a newb who hasn't watched MMA for that long, let alone a PRIDE event. PRIDE was the #1 MMA org. Go look at the rankings back then and Rampage proved it when he decimated the UFC poster boy at the time Chuck Lidell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 +1 fight night proves Rampage > Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmctaggart08 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 kill it with fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmctaggart08 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Mad Skillz Yo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmoGOAT Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Even if Hendo loses its still 2 titles to 2 titles. Question is do you take more stock in a title won in different weight classes or different organizations. IMO Hendo edges shogun out win or lose against Jones because he won the head to head match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Shogun, Pride and UFC champion and did it without TRT Not being biased, either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmctaggart08 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Shogun' date=' Pride and UFC champion and did it without TRT [b']Not being biased, either[/b] really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Admittedly biased. Hendo is an easy top 5 favorite of all time in my books. However, even looking at it as objectively as I possibly can, I have to say that Dan's longevity, not to mention insane weight jumping edges him above Shogun. At the end of the day, when you're looking at their loses, Dan's loss to Lil Nog is probably the "worst" lose between the two of them, but I'd say Dan's victories over Wandy, Fedor, Big Nog and Shogun himself are a bit more impressive than Shogun's career highlights of Machida (arguably twice), Rampage and Liddell. The arguments over championship titles is a bit shallow - I think we've all learned that Championship fights and belts in this industry are often PPV selling tools more so than genuine honors. It's not an clear cut choice, but I think Hollywood Dan is the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 really? Really. Hendo lost both times he fought for a UFC belt. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 everyone is also forgetting about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hendo held two Pride titles at the same time. Shobum only won the grand Prix. Hendo would have been the UFC middleweight champion if it wasn't for the greatest fighter on the planet. Would have probably won the Light Heavy title too if he was a legit sized Light Heavy. Plus Hendo smashed the GOAT. Plus Shobum tapped to strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hendo held two Pride titles at the same time. Shobum only won the grand Prix. Hendo would have been the UFC middleweight champion if it wasn't for the greatest fighter on the planet. Would have probably won the Light Heavy title too if he was a legit sized Light Heavy. Plus Hendo smashed the GOAT. Plus Shobum tapped to strikes. Hendo lost in the grand Prix that Shogun won And without TRT he would've been finished 5 years ago, we all know that there's no need to debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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