Sisti Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think this is an important question. Everyone talks about "this is good for the sport" references, but what value is UFC adding? Martial arts is an extremely long tradition rooted in honor and self-restraint. Do kids that train MMA today actually learn that these techniques are not learned to be some toughguy tapout wearer that wants to start a fight with everyone? Does the UFC need to do more promotion of warning people not to ever use these techniques in real life. I mean people are effected by what they see, and with the emergence of people like Chael Sonnen or the Diaz brothers, will people start thinking its cool to learn these lethal techniques and still trash talk and disrespect people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It teaches kids violence and encourages them to do drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It teaches kids violence and encourages them to do drugs. I do that too and I don't charge 50 bucks a lesson. It's a $49.99/month flat fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisti Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It teaches kids violence and encourages them to do drugs. oh, well as long as its teaching them something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I do that too and I don't charge 50 bucks a lesson. It's a $49.99/month flat fee That's a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Keeps testosterone fueled men busy on a Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It has done a lot for Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 That's a bargain. We have top notch facilities and only very rarely do we allow the kids to share needles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It's entertainment and mma is an excellent form of exercise, self defense, and discipline. That's the value that it brings. They probably should promote safety more to their audience though. You don't want to wait until it's too late and an incident happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisti Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It's entertainment and mma is an excellent form of exercise' date=' self defense, and discipline. That's the value that it brings. They probably should promote safety more to their audience though. You don't want to wait until it's too late and an incident happens.[/quote'] Very good post...and that actually is a good answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It has done a lot for Brazil. lol, I was going to say something but I don't want to offend any Brazilians that might be on here....Where is Chael P Sonnen when you need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisti Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 My main concern is that martial arts is supposed to teach people self-defense, not to use it to provoke people. I just hope they all teach the audience that these techniques are thousands of years old and it's a mixed method now, but it still carries the same honor of only being used in self-defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think UFC shows could use a "don't try this" thingy like the WWE does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeStSilva Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think this is an important question. Everyone talks about "this is good for the sport" references' date=' but what value is UFC adding? Martial arts is an extremely long tradition rooted in honor and self-restraint. Do kids that train MMA today actually learn that these techniques are not learned to be some toughguy tapout wearer that wants to start a fight with everyone? Does the UFC need to do more promotion of warning people not to ever use these techniques in real life. I mean people are effected by what they see, and with the emergence of people like Chael Sonnen or the Diaz brothers, will people start thinking its cool to learn these lethal techniques and still trash talk and disrespect people[/quote'] Boxing in its hey-day was way bigger then MMA is at this point. It met all of the same criteria you just mentioned, i.e. violence trash, talking. It doesn't seem to have made too much of an impact. I know this isn't converse to what you are saying but my philosphy is parenting is for ... shocker... parents. If you don't want your kid to be a jerk dont raise a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Boxing in its hey-day was way bigger then MMA is at this point. It met all of the same criteria you just mentioned' date=' i.e. violence trash, talking. It doesn't seem to have made too much of an impact. I know this isn't converse to what you are saying but my philosphy is parenting is for ... shocker... parents. If you don't want your kid to be a jerk dont raise a jerk.[/quote'] Kids throw hands and trashtalk everyday trying to move like their favorite boxer. The problem now is that kids are starting to see what triangle chokes and Kimuras are. A lot of these moves are designed to kill or break limbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeStSilva Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Kids throw hands and trashtalk everyday trying to move like their favorite boxer. The problem now is that kids are starting to see what triangle chokes and Kimuras are. A lot of these moves are designed to kill or break limbs. Again I feel it comes down to parenting. WWE, or WWF as I knew it, was huge back in the day and I can remeber trying to body slam my brother but when things got out of hand my parentsstopped it. Also just as there isnt a signifcant danger in kids punching each other in the face - because they dont know how - the same would, in most cases, hold true for limb breaking and killing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Again I feel it comes down to parenting. WWE' date=' or WWF as I knew it, was huge back in the day and I can remeber trying to body slam my brother but when things got out of hand my parentsstopped it. Also just as there isnt a signifcant danger in kids punching each other in the face - because they dont know how - the same would, in most cases, hold true for limb breaking and killing[/quote'] A triangle and a lot of other submission moves are very very easy to learn. There is a very thin line of continuing to fight to get out of a submission and having everything fade to black. If you're fighting with fists or whatever then you might get your nose broken, lose some teeth, or get knocked out for a bit. Getting choked to death is a completely different thing. It has a lot to do with parenting but we know that parents aren't perfect. My thing is if putting a "do not try this at home" message up, gets the attention of kids or even lets parents know that this stuff is for real and prevents one death, then I think it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 does the ufc... should have made this thread what good does mma provide society because the UFC doesn't advertise mma the way they should, its more of a WWE approach with the bad blood and other crap like that real mma teaches respect, honor, and courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathStick Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Boxing in its hey-day was way bigger then MMA is at this point. It met all of the same criteria you just mentioned' date=' i.e. violence trash, talking. It doesn't seem to have made too much of an impact. I know this isn't converse to what you are saying but my philosphy is parenting is for ... shocker... parents. If you don't want your kid to be a jerk dont raise a jerk.[/quote'] kids are a complete product of there parents. been saying it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule_abiding_poster Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 high school wrestlers won't be as ****y now when everyone else knows how to tap them out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It teaches kids violence and encourages them to do drugs. Lmfao!!!!!!!! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I fap during GSP fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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