tuf1_ Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 inb4jonesisahypocritefornotwantingtofightlyotobecauseofppv'sbutnotwantingtofightsonnenwhoisappvgoldmine http://mmajunkie.com/news/30278/ufc-champ-jones-i-havent-cleaned-out-the-division-but-sonnen-is-a-joke.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+%28MMAjunkie.com+Feed%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 what language are you speaking in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4PLikeWater Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If Sonnen was a joke, he wouldnt be in JBJ's head already. Hey JBJ, Chaels name isnt A. **** so keep it out of your mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yesterdays_Hero Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 inb4jonesisahypocritefornotwantingtofightlyotobecauseofppv'sbutnotwantingtofightsonnenwhoisappvgoldmine http://mmajunkie.com/news/30278/ufc-champ-jones-i-havent-cleaned-out-the-division-but-sonnen-is-a-joke.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+%28MMAjunkie.com+Feed%29 that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Can you please clarify your original post. I have no idea what the **** it says. See post 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 This: if you want to know how dominant jon jones has been as ufc light-heavyweight champ, consider for a moment that, even with a title defense against a legend of the sport slated for ufc 151 a couple weeks from now, the big story recently has been the argument over whom jones will fight next. As in, after he beats dan henderson on sept. 1, and after he wins a fight that is by no means a gimme, regardless of how many fans and pundits dismiss it as a mere formality. And sure, you can insert your own sports cliche here about how he's not looking past henderson, about how the only fight that matters is the next one, and that's all true. Still, that doesn't mean the champ can't have an opinion on what his future with the ufc should look like, as well as what it shouldn't. It's just that, because of jones's reign of terror atop the weight class, new and interesting challenges in the light-heavyweight division are getting harder and harder to come by. Or, if you believe him, maybe they're not. First, a word of advice. If you happen to talk to jones, as i did recently, don't make the mistake of suggesting that, with a win over henderson, he might clean out the 205-pound division. He has a rebuttal already prepared for that line of thinking, and it is a revealing one. "styles make these matchups," jones told mmajunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com) when asked who might be left for him after henderson. "phil davis lost to rashad [evans], and i beat rashad. But that doesn't mean phil davis won't give me the fight of my life. Or [alexander] gustafsson. He's tall, i'm tall, and he's got long arms. Maybe that would be interesting to see. Or glover teixiera. He hits hard. Maybe that would be interesting. Styles make matchups. There's guys in my gym right now that aren't in the ufc that make me sweat and bleed. So you can't say i've cleaned out the division ? because i haven't. I simply haven't." you'll notice that, in jones' list of interesting potential title challengers, two names are conspicuously absent. The first is lyoto machida, who's already been promised a fight with the winner of the jones-henderson scrap despite the fact that jones choked him unconscious less than a year ago. The second is brand new light heavyweight chael sonnen, who wasted no time trying to drum up a rivalry with jones this past week after announcing that he was moving up from middleweight. Neither fight is of particular interest to jones, he explained, though for two very different reasons. For starters, take machida, who jones described as both a "great challenge" and a "tricky puzzle" from a pure martial arts perspective. "but as a businessman, the [fight against machida at ufc 140] had the lowest pay-per-view sales of all the fights i had in 2011," jones said. "so it's just like, i don't see why it would benefit me to fight him again. ... I have nothing to gain there. I beat him once, and it was the lowest pay-per-view numbers i had the whole year. So why would i fight someone that no one really wants to see when there's all these other guys working their hearts out to get a chance at me? Why do they get skipped [by] a guy who lost already?" you have to admit that there is a certain unassailable logic at work here. If the goal of a champion is to defend his belt against the challengers fans want to see him fight ? and if fans vote with their wallets ? then machida is a bad choice. He also represents a test that jones passed with flying colors back in december. Machida may have won a single round against jones, but how motivating do we really expect that to be for one of the ufc's most dominant champs? For jones, fighting machida again is like going back to take the sat after getting a nearly perfect score the first time. There might be some room for improvement, but not much. On the flip side, if it's fan interest jones is after, you might think he could do a lot worse than sonnen. The former middleweight contender has yet to win a fight in the ufc at light heavyweight, but at least he knows how to sell a fight. He's already begun laying the groundwork in his new weight class while taking potshots at jones on a recent episode of "ufc tonight" and drawing the champion's ire on twitter as a result. But no, that fight isn't happening either, according to jones. "that guy is a joke," he said of sonnen, adding that, regardless of how it may have appeared, he didn't feel he'd been baited into a war of words when he responded on twitter. "it's not getting baited if you know what you're up against. My emotions weren't involved in that." and yet, the more jones talks about sonnen and what he stands for, the harder that is to believe. To hear jones tell it, sonnen is "a bully," and there are few things the champion despises more. He insists that "bullying has taken over america, and it's terrible for people." just look at sonnen's pre-fight rants about anderson silva and brazilians in general, jones said. "he mentions brazilian kids playing with dirt while american kids play with normal toys," jones said. "he talks about people's parents and families and wives. He's a bona fide bully. ... The brazilian thing, i lost a lot of respect for him. What he said was racist. It was disrespectful and unacceptable. I have a strong stance on this because i hate what he's doing. You can't just insult a whole country like that. ... It was terrible. As americans, we should have been embarrassed by what he did." but if jones is so outraged by sonnen's schtick, one wonders, why then is he so opposed to the idea of fighting him? Wouldn't the best response to a bully be a spinning back elbow to the skull? Normally, maybe. But in this instance, it would be exactly what sonnen's after, and jones knows it. Sonnen likely craves not only the attention of a high-profile feud, however contrived it might be, but also the money that would accompany a title fight. That is, if he could talk his way into one, which is where jones comes in, or at least hopes to. "it's what he wants, but i'm not going to allow him to get a title fight from talking," jones said. "it's not going to happen. Chael sonnen will not get a title fight from using his mouth. I will make it very clear to everyone that there's people who are way more deserving of a shot. If he wants to come into the [light-heavyweight division], i'd consider him top 15 among light heavyweights. Let's see what he'll do against a wrestler like phil davis. Let's see what he'd do against a wrestler like rashad or a striker like lyoto machida. ... The light-heavyweight division is a completely different beast. I won't allow him to just jump the rankings with his mouth. It's not going to happen." but then, that brings us back to the beginning. Jones has his own ideas about who deserves the next crack. It just seems like the ufc doesn't share those sentiments. For now, at least, his future is clear. If he doesn't get past henderson, all the talk about who's next for jones will seem like a frivolous waste of time, maybe even a critical distraction. If the belt remains with its current owner after sept. 1, however, the conversation will only get louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 "it's what he wants, but i'm not going to allow him to get a title fight from talking," jones said. "it's not going to happen. Chael sonnen will not get a title fight from using his mouth. I will make it very clear to everyone that there's people who are way more deserving of a shot. If he wants to come into the [light-heavyweight division], i'd consider him top 15 among light heavyweights. Let's see what he'll do against a wrestler like phil davis. Let's see what he'd do against a wrestler like rashad or a striker like lyoto machida. ... The light-heavyweight division is a completely different beast. I won't allow him to just jump the rankings with his mouth. It's not going to happen." The above made me laugh, Jones thinks he somehow is now the boss and matchmaker of UFC Also, he keeps moaning about the PPV buys of the Machida fight, yet neglects to mention that the event was two weeks before Christmas as a likely reason as to why it sold less ppvs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent555 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 OMFG...a news report that actually agrees that Jones has a point with some of the stuff he says? Burn it with fire!! Also, if you guys really couldn't read the OP simply because he took out the spaces, then you might want to try Hooked on Phonics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Jon Jones doesn't want to get into a verbal battle with Sonnen, Sonnen would make him look stupid, which he already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 keep fanning the fire Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent555 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 That was' date='[/b'] not funny. This comma doesn't belong here. Reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaksame Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Jones is correct on everything that the hear say article mentions.I think there will be an even bigger circus when Jones finally loses.it can and will happen because constant winning caters to a complacent fighter.It won't matter too much,soon the circus is over Jones will regain his belt and go on another long winning streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullbone Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If Jones is sincere he's an idiot. A fight with Chael Sonnen equals one sure thing: money. If he thinks he can easily beat Sonnen then why not welcome an easy payday? When it's Machida it's all about money. When it's Sonnen it's all about rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If Jones is sincere he's an idiot. A fight with Chael Sonnen equals one sure thing: money. If he thinks he can easily beat Sonnen then why not welcome an easy payday? When it's Machida it's all about money. When it's Sonnen it's all about rank. He can't beat Sonnen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz2990 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 There goes Fail again tryin to talk his way to another title shot. We know he cant earn it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullbone Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 He can't beat Sonnen Therein lies the answer. Jones is either talking smack to keep the subject hot for a future fight with "bad blood" , or he is serious about not wanting a fight with Chael because he feels threatened. I think he feels threatened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz2990 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 You know he was gifted that 2nd shot against Silva. Bisping won that fight.......:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman20 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 and yet, the more jones talks about sonnen and what he stands for, the harder that is to believe. To hear jones tell it, sonnen is "a bully," and there are few things the champion despises more. He insists that "bullying has taken over america, and it's terrible for people." just look at sonnen's pre-fight rants about anderson silva and brazilians in general, jones said. funny he talks about bullying people when he won't move upp weight to fight someone his size Sonnen will take his belt from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule_abiding_poster Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Wow Jon, just wow. Did you really just say glover is more deserving because 'he hits hard' lmaooo. And you really just called someone else a bully a side from yourself..??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Jon you are turning into the ufc's biggest troll oh so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Chael isn't good enough to fight Jones.....if he was a mute, everyone would realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRender Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 and yet' date=' the more jones talks about sonnen and what he stands for, the harder that is to believe. To hear jones tell it, sonnen is "a bully," and there are few things the champion despises more. He insists that "bullying has taken over america, and it's terrible for people." just look at sonnen's pre-fight rants about anderson silva and brazilians in general, jones said. [b']funny he talks about bullying people when he won't move upp weight to fight someone his size[/b] Sonnen will take his belt from him I was taking your post seriously until the obvious butthurt comment. If he makes weight he is, in fact, fighting at "his size". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Horse Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Jones is a hypocrite for not wanting to fight Lyoto because of PPV's, but not wanting to fight Sonnen who is a PPV goldmine... oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule_abiding_poster Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I was taking your post seriously until the obvious butthurt comment. If he makes weight he is' date=' in fact, fighting at "his size".[/quote'] name one fighter jones has ever fought in his entire career that has ever been of equal size or stature to him. go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRender Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 name one fighter jones has ever fought in his entire career that has ever been of equal size or stature to him. go. Every fighter he has fought weigh's in the same. Only people with small man complexes gives a crap about size difference. MMA (moreso BJJ) was founded on the principle's of beating men bigger than you, but it never included whining about it. Winners fight, losers whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon1406052403 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Love to watch Jones fight.... But when he speaks.... ohhhh god, disgusting elitist jerk.... He is like a tall Kanye West.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule_abiding_poster Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Every fighter he has fought weigh's in the same. Only people with small man complexes gives a crap about size difference. MMA (moreso BJJ) was founded on the principle's of beating men bigger than you' date=' but it never included whining about it. Winners fight, losers whine.[/quote'] too much fail in one post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRender Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 too much fail in one post. So how do you see it? Jones should be chastised for being bigger than everyone in his weight class? He has an "unfair" advantage because he has a long reach? LOL. Okay. So Pat Barry has an advantage because he's short and kicks hard. Aldo is a ****** because he's bigger than everyone at 145. Hendricks cheats because of his sexy beard. Ridiculous. I've yet to see you EVER contribute a post that isn't smeared with troll scat. No worries though, this forum will accept you in spades as long as you're one of the many, "it's cool to troll the forum" wannabe's. You may reply with your oh-so-witty social media acquired communication skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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