Sisti Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I love both these fighters that it's hard for me to pick a favorite so I'll just analyze who I think will realistically win Experience - obviously hendo...this could help because he's old enough to know this really is his last chance at the UFC belt. hendo will have an amazing career with or without this win, and so will jones, but hendo might have enough insight to know how to pull through when it counts Striking - significant edge goes to jones. don't know how the dude does it but he's a f'in beast on his feet. between the spinning elbows that land perfectly and the flying knees, Jones has some of the coolest and most efficient striking i have ever seen. hendo will probably want to keep this standing since he has the chance of landing a solid punch, but i see that being his worst possible mistake Wrestling - this one is tough for me, but i have to say jones. yes, hendo is an olympic alternate while jones is a juco national champ, but Jones isn't dominating people the way he is without extremely good wrestling. jones made bader look like an ameatur at wrestling in their match, and hendo's age will likely be enough that jones should outwrestle him Jiu-jitsu - Hendo...Hendo and Jones both don't like the jiu-jitsu game but obviously know it because they are in MMA. I'd give a slight edge to Hendo Work ethic - 2 of the hardest workers ever, but I'd give it to Jones. the thing that struck me about jones is that every time he had an amazing win his comment to rogan was that he just wanted to practice that much harder for his next fight. no disrespect to hendo who works his **** off like no one here could imagine, but jones did not get to the skill level he's at without an extremely crazy work ethic Overall - as probably most people who know MMA would say, you got to give the overall advantage to jones. hendo has been on an absolute tear, but jones is just on another level right now. no fight is a guarantee, and the only chance hendo really has is jones looking past him. to address jones' criticisms (which gets old by the way) i do think jones has a tendency to be both ****y and humble. he is just a kid and human like any of us so let's give him a bit of a break on this...i just hope this is similar to a shogun/hendo war where we really get to see heart from both fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMMAFansSuck Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Hendo via KO From an unbiased perspective: Jones via RNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorkgiant1 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Hendo couldn't beat Silva he is not going to beat an even bigger and stronger Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The grappling, the takedown offense and defense isn't close....Not even a shred close....Olympian's mean nothing, this is professional fighting not amateur wrestling. Striking isn't really either, at distance Jones will be able to land at will and if Hendo closes distance he better be able to land the perfect punch because once he's in the clinch, he's doomed utterly....Look what Jones did to Machida in the clinch, look what Jones does to people he's ontop of, he can throw Dan down if he gets ahold of him no problem, Dan can't him. Size and Speed advantage go heavily to Jones so does cardio....This fight is not close, can Dan win? Yeah, will he? I'd say 10-1 odds seem right on this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDuperdudacud Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Jones has ever advantage except on punch knockout power. He chokes Dan out in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Tl-dr Jones via rape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Tl-dr Jones via rape A better thing to debate is who will have gotten the worse beating from Jones, Shogun or Hendo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMMAFansSuck Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 A better thing to debate is who will have gotten the worse beating from Jones' date=' Shogun or Hendo?[/quote'] Can it really get much worse than Slobum. He even tapped 2 strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yummy_Baby Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I love both these fighters that it's hard for me to pick a favorite so I'll just analyze who I think will realistically win Experience - obviously hendo...this could help because he's old enough to know this really is his last chance at the UFC belt. hendo will have an amazing career with or without this win' date=' and so will jones, but hendo might have enough insight to know how to pull through when it counts Striking - significant edge goes to jones.[b'] don't know how the dude does it but he's a f'in beast on his feet.[/b] between the spinning elbows that land perfectly and the flying knees, Jones has some of the coolest and most efficient striking i have ever seen. hendo will probably want to keep this standing since he has the chance of landing a solid punch, but i see that being his worst possible mistake Wrestling - this one is tough for me, but i have to say jones. yes, hendo is an olympic alternate while jones is a juco national champ, but Jones isn't dominating people the way he is without extremely good wrestling. jones made bader look like an ameatur at wrestling in their match, and hendo's age will likely be enough that jones should outwrestle him Jiu-jitsu - Hendo...Hendo and Jones both don't like the jiu-jitsu game but obviously know it because they are in MMA. I'd give a slight edge to Hendo Work ethic - 2 of the hardest workers ever, but I'd give it to Jones. the thing that struck me about jones is that every time he had an amazing win his comment to rogan was that he just wanted to practice that much harder for his next fight. no disrespect to hendo who works his **** off like no one here could imagine, but jones did not get to the skill level he's at without an extremely crazy work ethic Overall - as probably most people who know MMA would say, you got to give the overall advantage to jones. hendo has been on an absolute tear, but jones is just on another level right now. no fight is a guarantee, and the only chance hendo really has is jones looking past him. to address jones' criticisms (which gets old by the way) i do think jones has a tendency to be both ****y and humble. he is just a kid and human like any of us so let's give him a bit of a break on this...i just hope this is similar to a shogun/hendo war where we really get to see heart from both fighters are you ****ing kiding me.Just because he does crazy stuff while striking does'nt mean he's good. The guy is rudimentary and a stiff puncher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Can it really get much worse than Slobum. He even tapped 2 strikes. Still lasted longer than Machida, and I bet Hendo will also be finished sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMMAFansSuck Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Still lasted longer than Machida' date=' and I bet Hendo will also be finished sooner[/quote'] He tapped 2 strikes though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Every ounce of me wants to say: Hendo by droppin' that H-Bomb. But realistically, we're looking at Bones getting the W via submission. But I'll be rooting for me to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I think Hendo only has a punchers chance. Of course if he lands the H-bomb flush it's a wrap. I don't see Hendo taking Jones down. Even if Hendo is a better technical wrestler, Jones is too big. He can't box from the outside because he'll get picked apart. If he boxes from the inside Jones will probably just clinch and use leverage to throw him. Jones already beat his greatest threats at LHW which I think were Lyoto and Rashad. There are plenty of ways Jones can finish Hendo but only one way Hendo can finish Jones and I'm sure his trainers have warned him about circling to the left. If anyone deserves to shock the world then it's Hendo, but I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisti Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I think Hendo only has a punchers chance. Of course if he lands the H-bomb flush it's a wrap. I don't see Hendo taking Jones down. Even if Hendo is a better technical wrestler' date=' Jones is too big. He can't box from the outside because he'll get picked apart. If he boxes from the inside Jones will probably just clinch and use leverage to throw him. Jones already beat his greatest threats at LHW which I think were Lyoto and Rashad. There are plenty of ways Jones can finish Hendo but only one way Hendo can finish Jones and I'm sure his trainers have warned him about circling to the left. If anyone deserves to shock the world then it's Hendo, but I don't see it happening.[/quote'] agree with this...his greatest threats were machida and rashad. hendo is up there in terms of being a legit threat, but i just don't see it happening. the only possible way i see him losing this is if he looks past henderson...similar to how penn looked past edgar and gsp looked past serra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 are you ****ing kiding me.Just because he does crazy stuff while striking does'nt mean he's good. The guy is rudimentary and a stiff puncher. Just because Hendo may have more striking power and better technique doesn't mean he has the advantage standing up. Number one, Jones is unorthodox and I'll let you guess number 2....here's a hint. People always complain about it on here and it's 84.5 inches long;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Jones wins by tko via "Triple Axle Spinning Back Hellbow" - Round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The biggest advantage that Jones has is his cardio. Did anyone else watch Shogun vs Henderson? Henderson only has 10 minutes of fighting in him. Jones, TKO round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WKWS75 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The biggest advantage that Jones has is his cardio. Did anyone else watch Shogun vs Henderson? Henderson only has 10 minutes of fighting in him. Jones' date=' TKO round 3.[/quote'] I agree, no cardio. Jones, by either ref stoppage due to strikes, or submission, round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 He tapped 2 strikes though.. Ref had finished the fight already though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Still lasted longer than Machida' date=' and I bet Hendo will also be finished sooner[/quote'] I will not disagree with this assessment here. Hendo will be unlikely to make it past the 3rd round. He knows what he needs to do to win. He's not going to tool around every round just waiting for the opportunity to present itself because that will just play right into Jones favor. He's going to go for it every round he's still awake and able to continue. He either KTFO of Jones early in the fight, or gets caught himself in a sub, or TKO in the second or third. I see this being one of Jones's easiest title defenses.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelebrun Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 No way does Dan have a BJJ advantage, if Jones wins this, it will be by Sub. And what you said about spinning back elbows landing perfectly, out of all the times he has thrown it, he has landed it twice, one illegal one on Bonnar, and one on Shogun, he missed every attempt on Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePack19 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Soon....very soon you all will see that it is Jones who wins. He will win via whatever the heck he feels like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I will not disagree with this assessment here. Hendo will be unlikely to make it past the 3rd round. He knows what he needs to do to win. He's not going to tool around every round just waiting for the opportunity to present itself because that will just play right into Jones favor. He's going to go for it every round he's still awake and able to continue. He either KTFO of Jones early in the fight' date=' or gets caught himself in a sub, or TKO in the second or third. I see this being one of Jones's easiest title defenses..[/quote'] Agreed, Hendo won't be able to stop the takedown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Fight will look something like this, Shogun being Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Fight will look something like this' date=' Shogun being Jones [img']http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/post-images/shogun_hendo_ufc_139.jpg[/img] agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePack19 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 agreed Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 racist judges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Jones. And it will be in the 2nd or 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Probably Jones but I am hoping for an H Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banham Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The biggest advantage that Jones has is his cardio. Did anyone else watch Shogun vs Henderson? Henderson only has 10 minutes of fighting in him. Jones' date=' TKO round 3.[/quote'] Was that the first fight you've ever seen? You try throwing nothing but bombs for 10 mins and see if you're the same fighter after. And he obviously had more than 10 minutes of fighting if he came the closest to finishing the fight in the third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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