JonesyUK Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Shogun took the fight against him on short notice, at the time Jones was a young up-and-comer coming off a win over a barely top ten Ryan Bader !!! He and Greg talk about the fight not being worth the risk, but how is it risky taking this fight baring in-mind that Jones is coming off a FULL fight camp whilst Sonnen would have NO fight camp to prepare and is basically a 185lber :confused: Everything about this favoured the champ, he is just being an **** because of all the recent Twitter banter between him and Sonnen where he stated that he would never grant Sonnen a title shot and that he was undeserving. Rick Story and Charlie Brenneman took a fight on 24 hours notice. Bisping fought Sonnen in a title eliminator on 8 days notice, the loss knocked him back down the line... You cant defend it, you really cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 lol sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasopasha Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 jones got exposed as a fake and so did greg this was a great day for mma now i just hope lyoto knocks him out then hendo gets his shot at jones and h bombs him into retirement and we never have to say his ****y face again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 That's actually a great point Jonesy. Serious BS. You could understand Shogun turning down Jones back then, after-all he was getting the shot coming off a win over Ryan Bader and was just 23 ! There is no sense in Jones turning down Sonnen or Weidman, no excuse is good enough, NONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAJess Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If Shogun fought Jones with 2 weeks notice, doesn't that mean Jones also took a fight with 2 weeks notice? Can we really expect him to keep doing that, especially now that he's the champ? I don't like that he turned it down, but Chael is a COMPLETELY different style fighter than Hendo, and requires a completely different kind of training/preparation for the fight. If it were someone with a similar style to Hendo that would mostly stand & throw, I'd definitely say he should take the fight. But training for 2-3 months to fight a striker, then changing to fighting a wrestler with 8 days' preparation is pretty risky for a champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 All of those examples aren't even anywhere near the same galaxy as this problem. The only one that can even come close is the Shogun example and at that time, JBJ was on a tear (if not for the Hammil fight), so he deserved that shot. And he proved he deserved that shot time and time again. Sonnen is the one who's getting rushed to the title again beacuse of his big mouth, after he looked like crap in his last two fights in a lighter division how on earth does he deserve a title let alone before even fighting Griffin? A guy who btw would get mauled by Jones but has a win over Sonnen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jon Jones is still a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorkgiant1 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Absolutely can defend that. Rua Taking Jon on short notice did not even have any risks remotely close to what Jon would be risking(aside from the belt...and losing to a rising star like Jon is not embarrasing)...That was Rua's first title defense after beating Machida and no where near Tito's title defense record. You had Jones who had been demolishing everyone and was very deserving of the shot at Rua. Here we have Jones, what 2 fights away from the record, who has everything to risk being that his ultimate goal is to break the title defense record. Sonnen has proved he is a force at 185 and has done nothing at 205 yet. Deserving of a shot JUST because he SAID he would fight? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasopasha Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If Shogun fought Jones with 2 weeks notice' date=' doesn't that mean Jones also took a fight with 2 weeks notice? Can we really expect him to keep doing that, especially now that he's the champ? I don't like that he turned it down, but Chael is a COMPLETELY different style fighter than Hendo, and requires a completely different kind of training/preparation for the fight. If it were someone with a similar style to Hendo that would mostly stand & throw, I'd definitely say he should take the fight. But training for 2-3 months to fight a striker, then changing to fighting a wrestler with 8 days' preparation is pretty risky for a champion[/quote'] imo if a champion can't beat anyone on any given day he is not a real champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyCWood Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jon Jones is still a *****. So racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAJess Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 imo if a champion can't beat anyone on any given day he is not a real champ Well then the UFC is running pretty low on real champs (no LHW, WW, or MW champs I guess).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz2990 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 This is just pathetic Dana feed him to the GOAT Anderson Silva and after he brutually KO's him then you can cut him......:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 So racist. How do you know? Count the * genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 +1 jones is a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Shogun took the fight against him on short notice' date=' at the time Jones was a young up-and-comer coming off a win over a barely top ten Ryan Bader !!! He and Greg talk about the fight not being worth the risk, but how is it risky taking this fight baring in-mind that Jones is coming off a FULL fight camp whilst Sonnen would have NO fight camp to prepare and is basically a 185lber :confused: Everything about this favoured the champ, he is just being an **** because of all the recent Twitter banter between him and Sonnen where he stated that he would never grant Sonnen a title shot and that he was undeserving. Rick Story and Charlie Brenneman took a fight on [b']24 hours notice[/b]. Bisping fought Sonnen in a title eliminator on 8 days notice, the loss knocked him back down the line... You cant defend it, you really cannot. Yeah, that's all well and good....but look what happened to Shogun. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If Shogun fought Jones with 2 weeks notice' date=' doesn't that mean Jones also took a fight with 2 weeks notice? Can we really expect him to keep doing that, especially now that he's the champ? I don't like that he turned it down, but Chael is a COMPLETELY different style fighter than Hendo, and requires a completely different kind of training/preparation for the fight. If it were someone with a similar style to Hendo that would mostly stand & throw, I'd definitely say he should take the fight. But training for 2-3 months to fight a striker, then changing to fighting a wrestler with 8 days' preparation is pretty risky for a champion[/quote'] What? How is he a COMPLETELY different fighter :confused: They are training buddies at Quest and both come from a wrestling background, but Hendo also happens to have the H-Bomb. You also telling me that the largest 205er cant handle the wrestling of a 185lber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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