Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 He's got all of you, besides doc and I, so ****ing MAD. We've all heard the old adage "Any press, is good press" Just like GSP, you guys will tune in, to see if Machida can knock him out. PPV revenue doesn't care whether you are going for or against him. I think he understands that the haters, will constantly outweigh the fans. People, in general, love to hate. I think after the DUI, he realized it would be impossible to reverse the hate. Regardless of how thoroughly impressive he's been in his fights. Including finishing three former champions in the same year. That in itself, pissed off 3 huge long time fan bases. You guys hate on him for being tall and rangy, if he agreed to fight a 185 fighter, you guys would be all over him. Then, when he chokes out Sonnen, all of you would continue to hate on him. Nothing to gain. Jones vs Machida II, will sell and sell well. The hatred is firmly implanted within the vast majority of you and the PPV numbers are gonna prove it. Then, as per his usual, he's gonna deflate all of your bubbles by cutting him up with hellbows and then subsequently choking Machida unconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesGunn Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You are mad at random people on the internet for making fun of the fighter that you like. I'm not mad at all, I get to see Machida vs Jones earlier than expected. I win, you lose, Jones is ducking. The End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 reported thread for homosexuality/Child ****/drunk driving/and cowardliness on a public forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 reported thread for homosexuality/Child ****/drunk driving/and cowardliness on a public forum. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You are mad at random people on the internet for making fun of the fighter that you like. I'm not mad at all' date=' I get to see Machida vs Jones earlier than expected. I win, you lose, Jones is ducking. The End.[/quote'] There's nothing in the OP that suggest I'm mad. Trying reading, it was a whole four paragraphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesGunn Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 No' date=' you don't.[/quote']I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 So, basically, people don't care about the rest of the card anyway....but they're willing to watch Jones (a guy most people hate) beat up Sonnen? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 reported thread for homosexuality/Child ****/drunk driving/and cowardliness on a public forum. Finished two of your top three, I see. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesGunn Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 There's nothing in the OP that suggest I'm mad. Trying reading' date=' it was a whole four paragraphs.[/quote']You creating a useless thread, writing that wall of text & posting all these pics, which you carefully searched for on the internet, suggests otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I thought you were trolling Then I looked at your sig ...... ^^ Buying Machida/Jones 2 ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesGunn Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 So' date=' basically, people don't care about the rest of the card anyway....but they're willing to watch Jones (a guy most people hate) beat up Sonnen? lol[/quote']Yup, problem? + there's always a chance Sonnen wins anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You creating a useless thread' date=' writing that wall of text & posting all these pics, which you carefully searched for on the internet, suggests otherwise.[/quote'] Lmfao - It was 4 paragraphs First 2 - google search = jon jones Last 2 - google search = machida choked unconscious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I thought you were trolling Then I looked at your sig ...... his sig doesnt mean much bro I like them all' date=' but here's my ranking. GSP JDS Jones Silva Aldo [b']Renan[/b] Bendo but hes on his list of fav fighters :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogunrua101 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Can poster is can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 He'll be mad when he runs the company into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogunrua101 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Lmfao - It was 4 paragraphs First 2 - google search = jon jones Last 2 - google search = machida choked unconscious Google rory mcdonald + carlos condit. Sad thing to see rorys another fighter ducking. I seee you have a tendancy to like fighters that duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 his sig doesnt mean much bro but hes on his list of fav fighters :eek: Lmao. There's only so many characters allowed in a sig. They're all interchangeable after Jones as far as the champs are concerned for me. I even stated that I like them all. Don't like Cruz though and Condits not beating GSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 He'll be mad when he runs the company into the ground. Fortunately for the UFC, he only controls his decisions. The UFC was successful before Jones and I'm sure they'll be successful, long after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Google rory mcdonald + carlos condit. Sad thing to see rorys another fighter ducking. I seee you have a tendancy to like fighters that duck Jones made your favorite fighter tap, your opinion is irrelevant. If you truly want to talk about ducking, I could always bring up Diaz ducking out the back of Gracie's crib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogunrua101 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jones made your favorite fighter tap' date=' your opinion is irrelevant. If you truly want to talk about ducking, I could always bring up Diaz ducking out the back of Gracie's crib.[/quote'] Sorry jones ducked 3 185ers who would have 8 days to train. I know it sucks that your one of the only idiots attempting to defend him. I feel for you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan_Jay Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jackson is a good coach and a terrible mentor. With how Jones handled fighters like Vera and Evans who talk non-stop I am just surprised and a little disappointed that he would not just stomp Chael's butt and move on to Machida instead of listening to the ridiculous advice of his camp. I don't have Chael making it out of a 5 round fight with any of the top 5 fighters in LHW. For Jones to not take the fight is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I had a huge rant thread that no one would have read lined up but it got deleted, basically saying Dana had no faith in any of the other fighters on the card, and how the UFC canceled the event not jones I mean Jones loses money if he took the fight. If it was a fighter without a belt who did the same thing it would be 100% fine however now Dana loses money because Jones makes a good financial decision and it doesn't fit right with him Meh I expected people to jump on the hate parade anyway, but happy to see some people actually understand the business side of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I had a huge rant thread that no one would have read lined up but it got deleted' date=' basically saying Dana had no faith in any of the other fighters on the card, and how the UFC canceled the event not jones I mean Jones loses money if he took the fight. If it was a fighter without a belt who did the same thing it would be 100% fine however now Dana loses money because Jones makes a good financial decision and it doesn't fit right with him Meh I expected people to jump on the hate parade anyway, but happy to see some people actually understand the business side of this[/quote'] Wholeheartedly agree. Blame the UFC for using Jones as a meal ticket for an entire PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scileyrott Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 There's nothing in the OP that suggest I'm mad. Trying reading' date=' it was a whole four paragraphs.[/quote'] Trying learn how to talk right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyran125 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 thats not why im angry really. im angry because 8 days out, hes screwed over all the undercard fighters out of thier money. PLUS Jackson when he made the decision, said he shouldnt be fighting a guy of Chaels calibre on such short notice!?!?! that makes no sense to me. Because if he wasnt ready to fight Chael, he certainly wasnt ready to fight Henderson and if he wasnt ready to fight Henderson, whats Jones been doing in the last 6 months? training im guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkLikeAWarrior707 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 He's got all of you' date=' besides doc and I, so ****ing MAD.[/quote'] You forgot me. I ain't mad at him. Hendo got injured, not Jones' fault. Also he needs to be smart about the fights he takes. When your at the level he's at you can't just take any fight that gets offered. Just like Anderson Silva, he is taking fights that make sense and not just anyone who will call him out. Sucks the event got canceled but I'm not losing sleep over it and going on a crazy hate tangent like 90% of the forum. I also feel for the fighters who miss their much needed payday but again that isn't all his fault. Some people just love to hate when people are on top and will look for anything to criticize them about. Plus he's is fighting Machida on the next card so it's not like he will be out for a long time or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jon Jones is a *****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You forgot me. I ain't mad at him. Hendo got injured' date=' not Jones' fault. Also he needs to be smart about the fights he takes. When your at the level he's at you can't just take any fight that gets offered. Just like Anderson Silva, he is taking fights that make sense and not just anyone who will call him out. Sucks the event got canceled but I'm not losing sleep over it and going on a crazy hate tangent like 90% of the forum. I also feel for the fighters who miss their much needed payday but again that isn't all his fault. Some people just love to hate when people are on top and will look for anything to criticize them about. Plus he's is fighting Machida on the next card so it's not like he will be out for a long time or anything.[/quote'] My thumb is in an upward position 10/10 would read again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyran125 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You forgot me. I ain't mad at him. Hendo got injured' date=' not Jones' fault. Also he needs to be smart about the fights he takes. When your at the level he's at you can't just take any fight that gets offered. Just like Anderson Silva, he is taking fights that make sense and not just anyone who will call him out. Sucks the event got canceled but I'm not losing sleep over it and going on a crazy hate tangent like 90% of the forum. I also feel for the fighters who miss their much needed payday but again that isn't all his fault. Some people just love to hate when people are on top and will look for anything to criticize them about. Plus he's is fighting Machida on the next card so it's not like he will be out for a long time or anything.[/quote'] thats beside the point man. Jones has been training for Henderson. Chael has been training WITH henderson fo rth efight. Jones should be ready for anyone. he WAS in a training camp. greg jackson has made it out like he wasnt ready for Chael on 3 days notice. im like WTF!?!?! if hes not ready for Chael he certainly wasnt ready for Henderson then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 thats not why im angry really. im angry because 8 days out' date=' hes screwed over all the undercard fighters out of thier money. PLUS Jackson when he made the decision, said he shouldnt be fighting a guy of Chaels calibre on such short notice!?!?! that makes no sense to me. Because if he wasnt ready to fight Chael, he certainly wasnt ready to fight Henderson and if he wasnt ready to fight Henderson, whats Jones been doing in the last 6 months? training im guessing.[/quote'] He didn't stop them from fighting, the UFC did, plus they were all moved to either 152 or the next fx event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Trying learn how to talk right. Touch? thats not why im angry really. im angry because 8 days out' date=' hes screwed over all the undercard fighters out of thier money. PLUS Jackson when he made the decision, said he shouldnt be fighting a guy of Chaels calibre on such short notice!?!?! that makes no sense to me. Because if he wasnt ready to fight Chael, he certainly wasnt ready to fight Henderson and if he wasnt ready to fight Henderson, whats Jones been doing in the last 6 months? training im guessing.[/quote'] Thats understandable. The thread was more about how I believe he has embraced the hatred. Hatred that will drive his PPV sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You forgot me. I ain't mad at him. Hendo got injured' date=' not Jones' fault. Also he needs to be smart about the fights he takes. When your at the level he's at you can't just take any fight that gets offered. Just like Anderson Silva, he is taking fights that make sense and not just anyone who will call him out. Sucks the event got canceled but I'm not losing sleep over it and going on a crazy hate tangent like 90% of the forum. I also feel for the fighters who miss their much needed payday but again that isn't all his fault. Some people just love to hate when people are on top and will look for anything to criticize them about. Plus he's is fighting Machida on the next card so it's not like he will be out for a long time or anything.[/quote'] Bravo good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkLikeAWarrior707 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 My thumb is in an upward position 10/10 would read again Thanks man, haven't posted anything on the whole situation all day. Had to get my thoughts out there at least once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Fortunately for the UFC' date=' he only controls his decisions. The UFC was successful before Jones and I'm sure they'll be successful, long after.[/quote'] They never canceled an event before him. If he continues like this, and the ufc continues to invest in him, something's gonna give. Either Jones goes down, they both go down, or Jones starts taking fights on short notice like he used to, and like everyone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 They never canceled an event before him. If he continues like this' date=' and the ufc continues to invest in him, something's gonna give. Either Jones goes down, they both go down, or Jones starts taking fights on short notice like he used to, and like everyone else does.[/quote'] Lol. He's fighting at 152. That will be his sixth fight in 21 months since the beginning of 2011. 1 every 3.5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkLikeAWarrior707 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Bravo good sir. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 They never canceled an event before him. If he continues like this' date=' and the ufc continues to invest in him, something's gonna give. Either Jones goes down, they both go down, or [b']Jones starts taking fights on short notice like he used to, and like everyone else does[/b]. It's not like he turned down a LHW so it's all good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noowtron Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 so pissing off Dana and the ferttitas was worth making people mad to gt better PPV number? I dont mind Jones either way (I do thin what he did was kinda weak) but if thats y he turned down a fight thats pretty risky ecause now hes not on danas good side so a few more mess ups like this and he could very easily get his pink slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 so pissing off Dana and the ferttitas was worth making people mad to gt better PPV number? I dont mind Jones either way (I do thin what he did was kinda weak) but if thats y he turned down a fight thats pretty risky ecause now hes not on danas good side so a few more mess ups like this and he could very easily get his pink slip. Not exactly what I'm trying to say. Either way, he can't appease the haters, might as well do what's better for his career. I'm not saying it was his goal to piss everyone off and get the card cancelled. Just that beating up a guy who fought 185, when you've dominated former 205 champs, doesn't make sense. People already think he's too big for lhw, imagine he fought a mw, what the haters would say ? Dana even said no lhw would fight him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team_spahr Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If you're a villain, yes, people will tune into PPV to watch you lose(potentially). But they will not buy your sponsorships products. Being Silva, GSP is what you ultimately want. And if you're not as skilled, Sonnens path isnt a bad one. But being the bad guy gets you attention, not fans. They are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'll still buy a JBJ Nike shirt, Bones Knows business and how to keep money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Enigma_Machine Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 What I don't get is why people are defending Jones, when they have to wait even longer to watch him in a closer fight when we could have seen him show off his finishing ability on sep 1 in an exciting fight for a change, and then fight again by the end of the year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'll still buy a JBJ Nike shirt' date=' Bones Knows business and how to keep money[/quote'] The Sonnen fight would have made a killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 What I don't get is why people are defending Jones' date=' when they have to wait even longer to watch him in a closer fight when we could have seen him show off his finishing ability on sep 1 in an exciting fight for a change, and then fight again by the end of the year anyway.[/quote'] :confused: Because I like more competitive fights. He'd choke out Sonnen in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Sonnen fight would have made a killing. For the UFC it would have, but in all homesty Jones makes more money waiting and defeating the number one contender, Chael brings money to the UFC, not Jon jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 :confused: Because I like more competitive fights. He'd choke out Sonnen in the first. there was a whole card that could have had competitive fights, topped off with the champ fighting, instead you lose all those fights, and have to wait to see the champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the UFC it would have' date=' but in all homesty Jones makes more money waiting and defeating the number one contender, Chael brings money to the UFC, not Jon jones[/quote'] He gets a set amount regardless. That's what contracts are for. Plus Fail said he would give him his purse. Chael would have brought money to the undercard guys too. Now they all get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hopefully Jones isn't the future if the future involves ducking Middleweights when you're the size of a HW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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