Acedaddy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Regardless of who is getting the blame for 151 being cancelled, Dana shouldn't blast Jones like that publicly. He should've discussed it with Jones FIRST not Chael. Therefore no one would know. Now that everyone knows, Jones has lost a ton of fans & as long as Jones holds the title, the UFC isn't gonna make as much money off of LHW title fights unless they put someone in there that poses a real threat to Jones so the fans that want to see him get beat will pay for it. I think that wasn't the smartest BUSINESS decision from Dana. Offer the fight to the champ. If he declines the other guy wouldn't know it then & neither would we. But Dana blasts him & now fans don't like him & fighters will decline to fight on cards that he headlines. He might have to make the LHW title fights the co main now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'd be pissed to if someone who said they will never turn down a fight turned down a fight and ended up ruining the event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule_abiding_poster Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogunrua101 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jones ducking is hurting the business .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Regardless of who is getting the blame for 151 being cancelled' date=' Dana shouldn't blast Jones like that publicly. He should've discussed it with Jones FIRST not Chael. Therefore no one would know. Now that everyone knows, Jones has lost a ton of fans & as long as Jones holds the title, the UFC isn't gonna make as much money off of LHW title fights unless they put someone in there that poses a real threat to Jones so the fans that want to see him get beat will pay for it. I think that wasn't the smartest BUSINESS decision from Dana. Offer the fight to the champ. If he declines the other guy wouldn't know it then & neither would we. But Dana blasts him & now fans don't like him & fighters will decline to fight on cards that he headlines. He might have to make the LHW title fights the co main now.[/quote'] I didn't read it all but I agree, I think Dana got hot headed like he does often and made poor decisions (blasting jones) canceling the event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Dana has been angry for 11 years and the UFC has only flourished in that time. Fail thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acedaddy Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'd be pissed to if someone who said they will never turn down a fight turned down a fight and ended up ruining the event And that is understandable. But tell that to Jones & only Jones. Remember, this thread is simply about the profits off of LHW title fights now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakenshi1243 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 People would pay to watch Jones fight hobos apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyran125 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 i agree and disagree with you. i agree that it should of been disgussed behind closed doors FIRST and humiliating your fighters and belittling the camps that are required for these guys to train at, is a stupid idea and just makes the president look bad or good depending on what side your on. A coaches job is to make your fighter a winner. Not an excitement WWE fighter, but a winner, thats all Jacksons job is nothing mmore nothing less. Jones went to Greg for a advice. Greg said he probably shouldnt do it, that should of been discussed with Dana white in full before having a radio conference. i disagree however on Jones's excuse in pulling out of the fight on 8 days notice. His excuse was he wants to fight at 100% or whatever. but the thing is, hasnt he been training for a wrestler for the last 6 months or however long hes been training for? so his excuse to me holds no ground and he didnt need to cancel the fight. He should of been ready for henderson and easily been able to switch to Chael on a few days notice. I think UFC needs to start having a plan B for its main card to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acedaddy Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Jones ducking is hurting the business .. You have a right to that opinion but that is not what this thread is about. What if Dana would've offered it & Jones refused & no one knew about it including Chael & he announced that the card was cancelled due to Henderson getting hurt & Machida couldn't make it and that's all everyone knew? What would everyone be saying then? Everyone would be saying UFC should've had a better card. All I am saying is Dana is gonna have a hard time selling LHW title fights now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent555 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I didn't read it all but I agree' date=' I think Dana got hot headed like he does often and made poor decisions (blasting jones) canceling the event[/quote'] Do you really think canceling the event was left up to Dana, lol? I mean if nothing else, I can guarantee you it wasn't his decision alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm the only person I know who does any research prior to any event. People generally just watch the card and maybe a few prime times. Won't be that bad for business. Might be different for you guys though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipso_facto Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 On the contrary, other than the sharp words he had for Jackson needing a psychiatrist, I thought his anger was quite controlled during that conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acedaddy Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 i agree and disagree with you. i agree that it should of been disgussed behind closed doors FIRST and humiliating your fighters and belittling the camps that are required for these guys to train at' date=' is a stupid idea and just makes the president look bad or good depending on what side your on. A coaches job is to make your fighter a winner. Not an excitement WWE fighter, but a winner, thats all Jacksons job is nothing mmore nothing less. Jones went to Greg for a advice. Greg said he probably shouldnt do it, that should of been discussed with Dana white in full before having a radio conference. [b']i disagree however on Jones's excuse in pulling out of the fight on 8 days notice. His excuse was he wants to fight at 100% or whatever. but the thing is, hasnt he been training for a wrestler for the last 6 months or however long hes been training for? so his excuse to me holds no ground and he didnt need to cancel the fight. He should of been ready for henderson and easily been able to switch to Chael on a few days notice.[/b] I think UFC needs to start having a plan B for its main card to. could be BS but Chael is a lefty & he trained for a righty. But it still may bs & done just to piss off Chael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Do you really think canceling the event was left up to Dana' date=' lol?[/quote'] Kind of yeah, the UFC brass made the decision that instead of salvaging what they had, put all their eggs in one basket here, if this card had a decent supporting cast for example if this were a card where rashad Evans vs shogun was the co main, and jones pulled out, all would be fine, but it wasn't so blame Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Regardless of who is getting the blame for 151 being cancelled' date=' Dana shouldn't blast Jones like that publicly. He should've discussed it with Jones FIRST not Chael. Therefore no one would know. Now that everyone knows, Jones has lost a ton of fans & as long as Jones holds the title, the UFC isn't gonna make as much money off of LHW title fights unless they put someone in there that poses a real threat to Jones so the fans that want to see him get beat will pay for it. I think that wasn't the smartest BUSINESS decision from Dana. Offer the fight to the champ. If he declines the other guy wouldn't know it then & neither would we. But Dana blasts him & now fans don't like him & fighters will decline to fight on cards that he headlines. He might have to make the LHW title fights the co main now.[/quote'] UFC will still make just as much money off of Jones fights if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acedaddy Posted August 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 On the contrary' date=' other than the sharp words he had for Jackson needing a psychiatrist, I thought his anger was quite controlled during that conference.[/quote'] I'm not saying he lost his temper. I am just saying he shouldn't let Jones take the blame for something that is PART their own fault on a matter that should've been discussed with the CHAMP not Chael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Regardless of who is getting the blame for 151 being cancelled' date=' Dana shouldn't blast Jones like that publicly. He should've discussed it with Jones FIRST not Chael. Therefore no one would know. Now that everyone knows, Jones has lost a ton of fans & as long as Jones holds the title, the UFC isn't gonna make as much money off of LHW title fights unless they put someone in there that poses a real threat to Jones so the fans that want to see him get beat will pay for it. I think that wasn't the smartest BUSINESS decision from Dana. Offer the fight to the champ. If he declines the other guy wouldn't know it then & neither would we. But Dana blasts him & now fans don't like him & fighters will decline to fight on cards that he headlines. He might have to make the LHW title fights the co main now.[/quote'] I agree 100%. People get blinded by Jones hate which is their perogative, but when it comes down to business, it was a bad move. Of course the UFC will be fine financially, but it definitely wasn't a wise business decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acedaddy Posted August 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 UFC will still make just as much money off of Jones fights if not more. yeah like I said if they put him against someone that poses a threat to him that will make haters want to see him get beat. For instance... would you pay to see him fight Shamrock in a title fight? Most haters wouldn't. Would they pay to see him fight someone that could possibly beat him just to see him get beat? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitiBoy7 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Lol hendo gets injured not a care is given Machida just recently fought but can't make it not a care is given also people were literally just complaining about how ****** the card was except Jones and Hendo but because Dana canceled the card and put the blame on Jones all you people jump all over it lol seriously some of you hate him more then you think lol listening to these forums you'd think Jones was a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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